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10/26/2020 6:22 am
Hey everyone,
I read some of the sticky posts but as this whole prostate orgasm adventure is so personal, I wanted to just directly ask my questions here. I would be eternally grateful to hear if i'm heading in the right direction.
My current setup approach:
I clean out my anus with warm water then have a shower. I move to the bed where I have some candles nearby, towels laid out, and my laptop resting by the pillow. I use a bluetooth headset that's designed for sleeping to still hear the sounds.
I then either loop a portion of a porn video that gets me mega aroused, or play a Pornhub playlist I made of PMV that has varied songs/tempos (music helps).
After lube+insertion, I lay on my side with a pillow between my legs.
How I screwed up initially:
When I started, I would really suck in my abdomen almost and really clench my cheeks to "tire out the anal muscles". The result of doing this over 30 minutes is my legs started to shake and my ass would suck the toy in. I thought "this was it" but it wasn't actually. Not at all. During this period and the later ones, I thought I had to get the toy to basically be "fucking me" on it's own and that would cause it. Strangely enough, I never felt a HUGE feeling that would be what a super O was while this happens. I only felt it a little bit when the toy stopped moving in and down and just rested.
Is this closer? Or am I feeling something different?
I discovered one session just resting, on my side, and then imagining "make the toy move without any discernible movement in your legs/muscles" a massive step forward. The muscles of my anus I feel are so small, that to flex them doesn't require any major muscle movements at all. I have no other idea how to describe this muscle, but I can now do this exercise a lot and feel these pleasure waves without the toy in. It's like I all of a sudden made the neural connection between this muscle and my brain for the first time.
As I do this, all of a sudden BAM I get this rainbow pulse feeling through my body. It's as if the spot the toy needed to touch is really close to entrance, not something "deep" that I need the toy to "reach". I hope this isn't gross, but it feels like the same muscle I would use if I was pooping to "bring the poop back in". Another realization I had was when the toy starts getting sucked in a lot and moving (deeper), it's almost like it completely is missing the point and I don't get any massive pleasure from these twitches - so for me if the toy doesn't move, I get the most pleasure. Is that normal? Throughout this process I continue to watch porn, which keeps me very aroused the whole time.
Note: throughout this period fluid is secreted from my penis multiple times. Maybe 3-4? It feels very cyclical in a way, but now I am able to hone in on the feeling the cycles are much smaller.
Questions:
- What do you think? Does this make any sense from your experience?
-Am I close / on the right track and just need to continue to build up the waves of pleasure? To me there is no chain reaction yet, I have to keep "pushing the swing", but each time it feels it grows more pleasurable, and I wonder if I push it past a point THAT'S when the chain reaction is (super O), but there is no chain reaction beforehand.
- After I had this great session, later in the evening I was laying in bed and I did the same flexing and felt a burst of pleasure again. Does this mean this is the right feeling and I should keep going? I saw something about for a couple days after you can still activate this feeling.
- Maybe i'm naive but this really just feels like re-wiring of my brain to know this muscle exists and how to flex it on it's own can give such a great pleasure. That's why I think i'm on the right path, but maybe this is some other normal pleasurable feeling caused by something completely different that I didn't know?
- Is watching porn throughout it a good idea? Or is there a part where you need to stop arousal to get to the final stage?
10/26/2020 12:42 pm
@Mountain Below the Sea, First, I'd like to welcome you to our little community and invite you to read my Introductory Message to New Members with some hints and tips to accelerate your learning. From what you've explained I think you've already started some good practices and with further reading and practice sessions you will do well. You've asked some good questions and unfortunately due to the individual variability of each man's response to Aneros use there may not be specific answers to your questions but we may be able to point you in a generally positive direction. Techniques which are effective for one man may not be effective for another so a willingness to adventurously experiment is essential.
Now to your questions.
Please don't think that you "...screwed up...", more along the line of "I tried something that just wasn't effective." As you become more experienced, you will find your body has its own unique responses to stimuli, regardless of what your ego mind thinks should happen, listen to your body's responses and not to your ego. This may be the biggest hurdle for many newbies. You've already learned that strong muscular contractions are not necessary to generate pleasurable feelings.
Is this closer? Or am I feeling something different?
While we can't really know what you were feeling, I sense you have intuitively picked up the need to "Just Let Go !". You've begun a sensual journey of learning not only about your body but also your psyche. For some reference, please see the Aneros WIKI - Understanding Your Body -> Pelvic Floor Muscles section for the various muscle groups engaged during Aneros use. These are the muscles which drive the movement and other body muscle groups need to be relaxed (please see @darwin 's post relax, relax, RELAX).
You've experienced your first P-waves from exercise of these muscles and if you develop these muscles further through Kegel exercises you will intensify their effects. Please see @BigGlansDC 's thread Kegels do feel real good if you do them faithfully! and the threads Kegels Question, The Kegels do work! Especially with Aless!" and Kegel Workouts! for some words of wisdom on this exercise regime.
... so for me if the toy doesn't move, I get the most pleasure. Is that normal? Throughout this process I continue to watch porn, which keeps me very aroused the whole time.
We have to be careful with the word normal, I would say your response at your level of experience is within the range of typical experiences. Remember every man is unique and your response will be unique as well. As to watching porn during an Anerosession, there are pro's and con's. Arousal level is an important factor to achieving the most pleasure from Aneros use, how you achieve high arousal levels is varied but porn is often cited. You might find the threads Are you "aroused"? & Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence/Semen Retention helpful in this respect.
As to the leaking of fluid from your penis, this is totally normal. It may be Cowper's gland fluid, prostate fluid or semen, all natural results of prostate massage.
Does this make any sense from your experience? Am I close / on the right track and just need to continue to build up the waves of pleasure?
Yes, your experience is well within the typical range. It is impossible to say how close you may be to experiencing a Super-O, it could happen in you very next Anerosession or you may weeks or months away. It is most important to not making that a goal but to understand you are on an experiential journey, orgasms are events along that journey but they are not the only things to be enjoyed enroute. Trying to "...push..." faster/harder to create a "...chain reaction..." is likely a futile waste of energy. The analogy of 'pushing the swing' is apt to a certain extent but it must be done gently in sync with the cycles of your own body to ramp up the pleasure intensity.
After I had this great session, later in the evening I was laying in bed and I did the same flexing and felt a burst of pleasure again. Does this mean this is the right feeling and I should keep going?
Yes, it seems you are awakening your prostate and becoming more aware of the pleasure potential inherent in these heretofore unexplored areas of your body.
Is watching porn throughout it a good idea? Or is there a part where you need to stop arousal to get to the final stage?
I am of the opinion that watching porn during an Anerosession is more of a distraction than an enhancement. While enhancing and maintaining arousal is important to achieving orgasmic levels of pleasure watching porn takes mental focus away from the actual physical response of the body, diminishing the perceived level of pleasure.
Good Vibes to You!
10/26/2020 12:53 pm
Hello fellow adventurer ! I believe this is your first post, let me welcome you aboard !
There's a lot in there to discuss and you ask several very pertinent questions, without going to deep here are my general thoughts :
I think you're doing fine, nothing seems unusual and yes, everything makes sense in my opinion. As you observed yourself, this is a very personal thing and each person will have unique yet mostly relatable experiences.
For example, the "auto-fuck" you describe will lead to an orgasm for some, and not for others, so you can't really say you were screwing up. You may have to test a lot of different techniques to see what works for you.
Getting new kinds of pleasure outside of sessions is a good sign, I'd say that as a beginner everything that feels good is worth exploring to see where it leads, in my opinion this will help you progress faster.
At some point you have to go inward and really concentrate on what is happening inside you, so you may decide to only use porn to start things up, but you'll have to see for yourself how each element of your routine fit together. Maybe porn is right for you, maybe not, only experience will tell.
I think you're on the right path, don't hesitate to try new things but as long as you're making progress, don't switch things around too much either.
Sorry for not addressing all your points, I hope this does answer some of your questions.
10/26/2020 1:19 pm
Hehe @rumel was quicker on the draw and posted as I was typing. I'm double posting instead of doing an edit, because I find it funny that we are pretty much reaching the same conclusions at the same time and that my post just looks like a cheaper version of his... Well at least it shows that the fundamental are solid.
10/26/2020 7:49 pm
Hi, and welcome.
i would say don’t watch porn. Try just music and close your eyes. If you are having trouble with arousal try the following:
- masturbate but stop before orgasm every day or multiple times a day, and thus practices semen retention and build baseline arousal
- listen to sex recordings with no video
- write erotica before a session
- fantasize during a session. Fantasize during masturbation too.
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10/27/2020 3:17 am
Wow you guys - First off I am really sorry that I used words like normal etc.. That was not my intent to imply that existed, but to be completely honest - I don't know anyone in real life that even knows about this stuff, and it's been like i've discovered something really deep and mysterious. I'm very pragmatic and when I started to get these P-waves (now I have a term for this, thank you!!!) I was shocked - like I just learned some foundational thing about myself I didn't know.
The resources and notes you all provided are amazing, thank you. I will try without porn, or if I have it it needs to be completely hands free.
Especially a big shoutout to rumel for posting all these links and going through these things so deeply, i'm sure you are exhausted by people like me coming to the forums - but I just wanted to know wow is it ever appreciated!!
In closing - I want to say that this experience is really magical and so so so interesting. That every man has to discover this for yourself is so mind blowing to me. It's not like masturbation where you rub your penis and then wow it feels great, it's so much deeper - and as a result I feel like i'm truly going on a massive adventure of self understanding. I haven't talked to my girlfriend about it at all because I don't think it's the right time, so right now I do it for myself as a form of self-exploration and love. Much love to all.
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