Expecting too much too soon?

My first was a Helix Syn also. Third time was the charm. Read the wiki and just relax, it'll come.

My first one was also the Helix Syn. It can take time, lots of time. But going by some of the testamonies, it seems worth it.
Just keep practicing, relax, read the wiki, use lots of lube.

Hi @Andy1087 Welcome to the Aneros community! If my memory serves me, I didn't really experience anything until about session 6. Remember that Aneros prostate tools are not like masturbators; you don't "stroke" until you come (or orgasm)! Your prostate is a different "animal" as you will find out! But it is well worth the wait! Be patient but diligent and set your sights down the road just a little bit farther. Good luck!

... I am feeling frustrated to say the least.

The frustration you are experiencing is a very common phenomenon with new Aneros users, I advise doing some more reading and give yourself more time. The Aneros experience is not a race or competition but a learning journey without an end point. Frustration is the result of expectations not being met, when you start dropping your expectations I suspect your frustrations will abate with them. I would recommend you read the two threads Identifying Obstacles to Progress and the companion thread Identifying Facilitators to Progress Good Vibes to You !

I tried for another 35 minutes today and still nothing.

Andy

Keep trying. Don't even worry about what you feel or what you dont feel... for the next 20 or 30 sessions. Just do the sessinos. Use them as a way to relax at first.

20 to 30 sessions, that will really try my patience.

I have to say after reading other people here posts about nothing happening after trying for upwards of two years I am feeling even more frustrated and questioning if trying this was a good idea and worth they money I paid for it.

Andy

It is obvious you haven't the necessary mindset to begin this journey, perhaps in a year or two you will loosen up enough to accept the information other members have given you.

Am I expecting to much too soon?

Ehm.. short answer is YES. I don't want to discourage you, but I needed from first insertion to first Super-O approx 5.... years. Yes... years (to be fair, that's extraordenary long by forum standards). Still worth every second. You build a lifelong skill, which is like a fucking superpower.

Cheers, Unfug

@lonewolf8 has the right idea for you. Like going to school; you may not like going but need to learn. You need the Aneros sessions to "train" your prostate. 20 or 30 "lessons" is not too extreme IMHO. Just invest the time; the payoff will come later.

20 to 30 sessions, that will really try my patience.

The biggest investment will be your time, not $. I guess this is like anything else in life; you either have the desire to learn a new skill or you don't. Some are naturals and learn very quickly; others do not.

Am I expecting to much too soon? With what I have read about the Aneros I was hoping I would feel something and that I would be a bit aroused.

I guess it partly depend on what you read and where. I have read some of the reviews at a UK based online sex toy shop. People always have high praise and say that they get orgasms within minutes of insertion etc. I think that's a load of nonsense.

I think you need to carefully read these wiki pages:

http://wiki.malegspot.com/index.php?title=Aneros_Basics

http://wiki.malegspot.com/index.php?title=Getting_Started

http://wiki.malegspot.com/index.php?title=Understanding_Your_Body

I understand your frustration somewhat - I'm just over 2 years in and never had an orgasm.
But just this morning while I was struggling to sleep, I was experiencing anal sphincter flutters and weird feelings without aneros inserted. I don't think I would have ever had these without Aneros training.

Yes, it can take a long time.

But getting frustrated after only 2 attempts is not good for you at all.

Think about it this way: in other aspects of your life, do you get very frustrated if you can't do something after only 2 attempts?
Think back to riding a bike. Or learning to drive a car. Or learning to swim. Or learning a new langauge. Or learning a new sport. Or even learning to masturbate in the traditional sense. You never become an expert and do it properly after only 2 attempts. Same thing with Aneros use.

I know it can get frustrating (I've experienced it myself).... but @Andy1087 keep trying!

I think some of you here a very helpful and others a little condescending toward this new fellow. I have to weigh in here. I was constantly told to try this, and try that and nothing worked. not for nearly 10 years, yes a friggin decade, then things starting working, then things stopped working, then things would work every session but only for a few minutes.

I doubt any of you can know the frustration i have felt in 11 years total of this. So, cut the guy some slack, i was made to feel like this woul be a lengthy journey of about maybe 1-2 years but for whatever reason, its taken many years to "progress".

I WISH i had never heard of the aneros, it has really negatively effected me in such a big way. Why not stop? well ive felt the highest highs with it, a taste of heaven and now i am irevecibly set on this journey forever, probbly fruitlessly.

This is a very dangerous 'toy' imo. Tread carefully.

I WISH i had never heard of the aneros, it has really negatively effected me in such a big way.

This is a very dangerous 'toy' imo.

Is living in a nice comfy filter bubble better? Blessed are the poor in spirit? You are obiously super bitter, which breaks my heart.

I doubt any of you can know the frustration i have felt in 11 years total of this.

I got a taste of that. But somehow it didn't turned me bitter. I guess that's what makes the difference. You can't be open hearted when so much frustration and pain chokes you.

I was constantly told to try this, and try that and nothing worked.

Hm, you tried all of these? There is more than just one way to Super-O's, the aneros is just one of them. Maybe a fresh start with a different approach might work for you. I wish you all the best!

Cheers, Unfug

Yes I've tried all of those.

How long have you been an aneros user?

Yes I've tried all of those.

And none of these worked? 😮 Can you control your various pelvic muscles independently? I forgot one major technique which I discussed with @DarkOrb a while ago: Any idea how to have a multiple traditional orgasm? Tried this already? It's not about Super-O's but when you are able to detach ejaculation, you can start from there to build up higher levels of arousal.

How long have you been an aneros user?

Must be around 7 years now - had my breakthrough 2 years ago. I started to write in the forum right after that.

Yes, I can break them down for you if it helps. Let's just pick one for now; Ksmo and audio hypnosis; this made me feel sick. The sounds some hypnosis tapes make we're almost tortuous in a highly negative way, turning my stomach and in some cases giving me nausea.

I have I can have multiple traditional o's almost whenever I want, via aneros or dildo use. The problem is my libido is zero and Its probably 11 years of inconsistency with the aneros. I once had 5 orgasms in one go, 2 dry and 3 wet, consecutively.

can I repeat this? Can I balls.

ive had dry o's too, in fact I get a dry or mini o every single session, within the first 30 seconds of device insertion. After I experience that orgasm and things begin to build, it stops dead. Nothing allows me to continue, except on those rare days when I can, however there is no rhyme or reason as to what those conditions are, it makes it difficult to understand

im not asking for super o's all the time or even once in a while, I would settle for something minor but something consistent. Some of you here are more than a little lucky

So yeah, cut that guy some slack.

I think some of you here a very helpful and others a little condescending toward this new fellow. I have to weigh in here. I was constantly told to try this, and try that and nothing worked. not for nearly 10 years, yes a friggin decade, then things starting working, then things stopped working, then things would work every session but only for a few minutes.

I doubt any of you can know the frustration i have felt in 11 years total of this. So, cut the guy some slack, i was made to feel like this woul be a lengthy journey of about maybe 1-2 years but for whatever reason, its taken many years to "progress".

We are all trying to help. Helping the guy get some information and tips is what we are doing.
If we cut him some slack, do we just say "There! There! It's all gonna be ok." ? But then that doesn't really help does it? He will just abandon sessions and throw the device in the bin.

I WISH i had never heard of the aneros, it has really negatively effected me in such a big way. Why not stop? well ive felt the highest highs with it, a taste of heaven and now i am irevecibly set on this journey forever, probbly fruitlessly.

This is a very dangerous 'toy' imo. Tread carefully.

Yes, it does seem you are bitter and it causes me heartache 🙁

What would you propose the OP should do?

From what I can see, there are only really 3 obvious options:
1. Tell the OP where to get information, to go read it, think about and digest the information, and keep practicing and trying new things (as per most posts).
2. Tell the OP they need a pause so as to re-align their way of thinking in a way that would be more suited to this endeavour (as per Imp's post).
3. Tell the OP to STOP now and never come back to Aneros (as per your post?).

It seems that options 1 and 2 are avenues that could eventually lead to progress. Where would option 3 lead?

You all advise him the best way you feel you should, coming from a place of compassion, love and understanding.

But if this fellow wants to vent and needs to get his frustrations out and he can do that here, let him, and don't judge him for not giving it enough time or effort.

But if this fellow wants to vent and needs to get his frustrations out and he can do that here, let him, and don't judge him for not giving it enough time or effort.

That's a good point. Maybe we should start a dedicated thread called "frustration-therapy" where people can just blow of some steam w/o any further consequences. Gaming Forums usually have these.

@The_Fury , I'll answer your last post tomorrow. I really wish, that I can help you.

Cheers, Unfug

Cool thanks.

My issue is either a physical one or a psychosomatic/mental one.

I know I'm not in the right place now for sessions but there was a time when I was, things were as they should be. But I'm stuck I need to know what this sudden 'cut off' is and why nobody else has reported it. It's so sudden it feels like 'overload' on a physical level.

....and yes we need a 'vent' forum/place. Would have helped me immensely.

Cool thanks.

My issue is either a physical one or a psychosomatic/mental one.

I know I'm not in the right place now for sessions but there was a time when I was, things were as they should be. But I'm stuck I need to know what this sudden 'cut off' is and why nobody else has reported it. It's so sudden it feels like 'overload' on a physical level.

....and yes we need a 'vent' forum/place. Would have helped me immensely.

It could be a psychosomatic/mental issue. I have read on other threads and also seen it mentioned in chat that being in the right place / frame of mind is essential to making this work. Triggers such as stress, anxiety, depression, tiredness, illness and anger probably all negatively impact one's ability to have a successfull session. Though I'm not sure why or how.

You've probably also heard of plateaus, which can and do happen to some Anerosians, though I'm not sure how long they last and what triggers them.
It would be interesting to know if that's the brain's way of dealing with some sort of 'subconcious learning', and that it takes time and the rewards are not immediately obvious. Biology/brain science isn't one of my strong points.

Yes, and vent thread could be useful.

@The_Fury, please don't lose hope. 🙁

Hey @The_Fury,

The sounds some hypnosis tapes make we're almost tortuous in a highly negative way, turning my stomach and in some cases giving me nausea.

Hm, ok. What you are describing are most likely binaural beats, which are often used in hypnosis. But hypnosis is not about these sounds and there should be plenty of hypno-files w/o them. Nikki Fatale uses them very seldomly and when she does - in a decent way. Shibbys Trances are labeled very precise, so you can easily sort out the ones with binaurals. Fiona Clearwaters trances come w/o fancy sounds as well.

The problem is my libido is zero

That's indeed a problem and a strong hint, that something different is going on. Maybe it's a hormone thing. Have you seen a doctor? Some drugs are reported to have heavy side-effects on the libido. Maybe the fishoil regimen could help.

ive had dry o's too, in fact I get a dry or mini o every single session, within the first 30 seconds of device insertion. After I experience that orgasm and things begin to build, it stops dead.

That's interesting, I've heard similar things a while ago from another deeply frustrated user. "Learned Helplessness" is a thing to consider here. What do you do, when it "stops dead"? Do you end the session or do you try for another hour?

im not asking for super o's all the time or even once in a while, I would settle for something minor but something consistent.

I don't even know if I reach a Super-O in every session. The borders blur and to me it doesn't matter anymore which label the orgasm has. It's very consistent though.

Cheers, Unfug

My first session with the aneros was very unproductive, although at the end and after a whole series of kegels I felt a slight stirring. However, after the session ended I did have some sensations in my prostate that seemed to indicate that it had 'woken up', and subsequent sessions proved this to have been the case and from that time on I have never looked back. But I suppose that I must be one of the lucky ones and can only sympathise with those who have continued to struggle over months and years