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11/17/2022 3:55 pm
Everyone started the journey in search of the mythical super orgasm. Of course it’s impossible to have zero expectations. It’s not impossible to keep them in check. You’re pushing too hard. You don’t level up until you are ready. You’re in hot pursuit lol. Likely what’s holding you back too. Also,you seem resistant to change,since you won’t cut down or give up jacking off,this maybe be slowing down your rewiring. Watching porn can sack progress aswell.If these are addictions,they’ll need addressed. Most experienced journeymen will tell you they’ve changed a lot over the course. The journey is about exploration,discovery,focus,understanding and self awareness. Each man must figure out how to tie the physical and mental components together that creates his unique balance for a super o.
You have far more experience than me....please..be a know it all!
“We can only show you the door,you’re the one who has to walk through it”.
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11/17/2022 4:08 pm
won’t cut down or give up jacking off
I haven't jerked off since Oct 30th. Actually it may have been longer. Just one "accident" when I "let" my BF.
Watching porn can sack progress aswell.
Yeah but I don't want to miss anything! I'd say it's more boredom that addiction. I check my twitter feed at work. That's about it. They are definitely NSFW. AT home..I don't really have an opportunity anyways. See..I'm not THAT bad.
You’re pushing too hard
Believe me..I have eased up on that. I hate to admit I went into this week feeling a bit bored and reluctant to try it. I suppose that lead me to a place where the pleasure I felt was a bonus.
11/17/2022 4:24 pm
I guess I am curious why you feel it's so good if it isn't as strong a TO
One of the things I had to learn was, what would it feel like to orgasm, without all the trappings of contractions and pumping, and liquid spewing out of my dick. It is so much different than a TO. Although all these things happen in a session, there not really connected. And you don't have to have both to feel complete. For me that feeling just grows and grows, My contractions start the second I even really think of having a session, and there good but I;m after the feelings. Its far more encompassing also.
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11/17/2022 8:56 pm
Believe me..I have eased up on that. I hate to admit I went into this week feeling a bit bored and reluctant to try it. I suppose that lead me to a place where the pleasure I felt was a bonus.
Perhaps it is time to introduce you to the User Theorems - The Tao of Aneros
Good Vibes to You!
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11/23/2022 2:22 pm
I haven't posted much since I have had nothing worth posting about, but I got to try out my new MGX last night.
It was a perfect night to try it out since I was home alone. Mindgasm had their Trinity lesson which felt nice, then I tried out the MGX. It started out feeling pretty good (a bit more direct than the Progasm) and I was enjoying it. I had a few moments of pretty good feelings but after 1.5 hours I stopped. I retried all my positions to compare and some hit spots a bit differently.
I seemed to feel something I didn't feel before. As I lay still at one point (and position) I felt mild electric tingles around my pelvis. Looking back I think this may have been my first actual startings of a P Wave. I think every other feeling I have had has been a penile stimulation..which could get me to a HFWO. Of course ANY orgasm would be welcome progress and motivation. I think I have been chasing (I know...you can't chase..let it find you) a penile wet orgasm. I'm now understanding that is the feeling I've been having.
I know it has been said to me many times and there are thread after threads of descriptions, but I found this description on Reddit that seemed to clarify things for me.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aneros/comments/u46mrh/hfo_and_other_musings/
"HFWO vs super O are using different nerve systems. The nerves that control ejaculation go straight up the spine to the brain. The nerves that bring about a super O are kind of webbed through the body. Hence why they are often experienced as full body orgasms.
To cause a HFWO you stimulate the same nerves as penile sex, this is why it can cause ejaculation. For some the shaking and such is enough to trigger them. Some can use strong contractions to affect the nerve line inside the body. For me I use my helix syn 5 on lowest vibe and contract anally to bring the helix deep in as possible where it contacts the seminal vesicle and top of prostate, while contracting PC muscle to bring the seminal vesicle to the right contact pressure on the vibrator. A bit of movement by hip rocking, fluttering pc, or pulsing the anal contraction and it isn't long before I get the same inevitable climax feeling as regular penile stimulation. It takes a very strong anal contraction to pull in the helix that far and I can't keep it up forever. Sometimes I just have to stroke to finish but it only takes seconds after I resort to that cause I am so close.
For super O, instead of using the top of the toy you will be using the front face of it on just the prostate. You should barely have to contract anally, if at all. The target spot is only 2 to 4 inches inside. Just make sure you are focusing on the prostate feelings and not the anal ones. Stay relaxed, no clenching. These are full body nerves. To give you an idea of how they function, try giving yourself goosebumps by touching your skin. You can't do it by rubbing, but running fingers barely touching the skin will do it. And you will notice the goosebumps will spread to areas you didn't touch. The nerves are spreading this reaction to their neighbors. This is how you need to treat the prostate. Tickle it.. barely touch it.. imagine giving it goosebumps. That feeling will spread just like the goosebumps. It may feel like a chill, or a warm wave, or tingling. But you should feel it intensify and spread if you focus. Those are P waves. Gradually increase stimulation and at some point, you will overload on sensation and be in the super o territory. Think of this as when someone tickles you and you try to remain still. Or trying to suppress a sneeze. Eventually you can't."
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11/23/2022 3:05 pm
@helghast I can now understand how the "do nothing" would work as a prostate stimulation..and very very light movements get you to the Super O. I admit my "auto pilot" has been encouraged and helped along by me...towards internal penile stimulation (the repeated rhythmic contractions stimulate).
I saw another poster suggest they tried to stop the contractions and that lead him to a HFO. My takeaway is..if I want to feel P Waves...no thrusting (assisting the contractions). I'm not actively assisting but it's somewhere between subconcious and concious if that makes sense? I don't manually (think about and actively control) do any thrusting....usually.
I will try to relax..and feel....and focus on the feel. Words I have heard 100 times. No moving..no assisting contractions. The confusing part to me is...when I am falling asleep..or even have it in and not actively having a session...nothing happens then either. The difference is my mind is not focused 100% on the VERY subtle feelings. Man I wish they could just be amplified like a weak HDMI signal!!!!
I will do tonight's Mindgasm witht he MGX in. I do focus a lot better in the lessons. At least this will save me some time. :p
This post was modified 2 years ago by Dundie
11/23/2022 3:58 pm
I can now understand how the "do nothing" would work as a prostate stimulation..and very very light movements get you to the Super O.
I personally hate do nothing. I like to do. Although I don’t go crazy with tension and flex. There’s an equilibrium,once I reach the balance,weeeeeeee!
I saw another poster suggest they tried to stop the contractions and that lead him to a HFO. My takeaway is..if I want to feel P Waves...no thrusting (assisting the contractions). I'm not actively assisting but it's somewhere between subconcious and concious if that makes sense? I don't manually (think about and actively control) do any thrusting....usually.
I actually do. I think of it more as rocking my pelvis,it isn’t like thrusting during cowgirl intercourse. You just need to explore ,test and tweak over time.
I will try to relax..and feel....and focus on the feel. Words I have heard 100 times. No moving..no assisting contractions. The confusing part to me is...when I am falling asleep..or even have it in and not actively having a session...nothing happens then either. The difference is my mind is not focused 100% on the VERY subtle feelings. Man I wish they could just be amplified like a weak HDMI signal!!!!
Forget being asleep or having it in outside a session,not everyone gets that,or it’ll take time to develop,although I don’t think you want that. Better what happens in session stays in the session.
You don’t need to be 100% focused on amplification. They’ll do that themselves. The idea is to get your PF working in the background like muscle memory while your mind works on arousal. They’ll both communicate,on a rhythm will grow,just don’t try too hard.
11/23/2022 9:42 pm
I personally hate do nothing
Like it or not it is a viable option. Just sayin
Helghast reacted
11/24/2022 2:56 am
Like it or not it is a viable option.
Like it or not,I know it is and it’s brought success to many guys. If it works for them,they should do it,that why I added personally so as to exclude everyone else from my own tastes,also just sayin’ ,what you sayin’ now? 😉
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11/24/2022 10:27 am
Hmm..I added a comment but it vanished. :/
Last night I tried session #2 with my MGX while watching TV in bed. It felt very nice the whole time and after the show ended I continued slowly doing small light "laps" around my P Spot. Eventually it had build ups and I came very very VERY close to orgasm. My dick went rock hard..felt like it would explode..and precum was leaking out..it was ready to HFWO. I am sure this was the closest I have every been but it subsided and I was left almost in tears..I was sooo close. I was right there!!
What is it that triggers the orgasm?! Edging that close is torture!! I got nice buildups again afterwards but nothing came as close. With very light, slow, P Spot 'laps' my goal was the P Waves..but I assume I was feeling penis TO buildup. I'd be very satisfied with one. Edging is torture!!!
After that I did my Mindgasm lessons (relaxation day' with it in. Felt very nice but that was all). Overall..it was nice and felt very very good. I'm not complaining but its like having a lottery ticket and being off by 1 number!
11/24/2022 1:33 pm
@tbob so for my understanding , for do nothing , you just put the Aneros in and lie still and concentrate. Just wondering as I may Try it. I have enjoyed every session for last 1.5 years but no orgasm of any sort. Thanks a lot.
11/24/2022 3:49 pm
personally so as to exclude everyone else from my own tastes,also just sayin’ ,what you sayin’ now?
And so you did. My bad.
I am beginning to form an theory as to why it works for some and not others.
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11/24/2022 4:57 pm
@tbob so for my understanding , for do nothing , you just put the Aneros in and lie still and concentrate. Just wondering as I may Try it. I have enjoyed every session for last 1.5 years but no orgasm of any sort. Thanks a lot.
Thats the general idea. It may help to use visuaizations of flexing after about 10min. keeps you in the moment. If you are a do nothinger in time you'll find your body does it all on its own.
11/24/2022 8:21 pm
... so for my understanding , for do nothing , you just put the Aneros in and lie still and concentrate.
I suppose in its simplest form that might describe it but you might want to read the thread -> "Do Nothing" What does that mean?. for more information.
Good Vibes to You!
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11/25/2022 9:34 am
I hate to get too intimate with my description of fun with my boyfriend but there is no other way to describe...
After pleasing him last night I was very turned on! I caved and asked for some penis pleasing. 😉 My boyfriend decided to "help" me resist my temptation and wouldn't touch my dick, BUT he did start repeatedly pressing on my perineum. I helped him find a spot that sent charges to my prostate. Felt great! He used his fingers to press there and his thumb pressed the hard area under the spot between my balls and dick. That spot also sent charges. I was feeling great but didn't feel like I'd every get an orgasm..then he started sucking on my nipple while he did it. He increased pressure on the spots and within minutes I exploded!
Would that have been my first prostate induced orgasm? The only stimulation my penis may have had would have been some very slight movement of my underwear (was on). The area between my balls and penis...the hard erection underneath I felt into my prostate so I wouldn't consider that penis stimulation.
Going forward when I am at those points in my Aneros sessions where I am VERY close to orgasm...maybe if I start pushing that perineum and lower shaft spots..I can get over the edge! Less edging/torture, more pleasure. And hopefully not at the risk of interfering with the rewiring. Certainly not a Super O, or totally hands free..and very wet..but that relief!!!
11/26/2022 6:01 pm
It sort of sounds to me like you get really restless during sessions. You know.. almost easily distracted. I get the same thing. I think it is our perspectives wanting something to happened sooner than later. When the truth is... You have to accept that it is going to happen when it happens.
The "Do Nothing" method is interesting because it motivates you to not try as hard, but if the results we want are not unfolding, that lack of patience creeps in a different way.
I am unsure on how to fix this. I never know how long to have a model in before knowing it may to time to switch out to another. I don't know if I have enough lube or not, since one minute you feel something and not the next. The list goes on.
I guess if we all just throw the damn thing in, close our eyes, and hope for the best, that might actually lead to the most success. But I don't know...
Little side note.. I have found that doing your hands behind your head (or above your head) while on your back does help a bit. Nothing of a major breakthrough though.
The interesting thing is.... We are all just a second away from going to out of this world pleasure from indifference. And the only thing blocking it is our own mind.
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11/28/2022 9:21 am
You know.. almost easily distracted
Yeah my mind is always working against me. Sounds like smoking weed helps a lot of people. I hae to start a drug addiction just to help me masturbate better. 😉
I have found that doing your hands behind your head (or above your head) while on your back does help a bit.
I normally rest my hands on chest but sometimes behind my head as you described. I do enjoy that also.
11/29/2022 2:00 am
@helghast Just researching other do nothingers, to see if theres a common thread. It seems doers don't have a natural subconcious connection at first and I emphasize subconcious. I never really had to do anything, and when I tried, it killed feelings of the session. Still does if I don't tread lightly. My body will go through all the motions, contractions, convultions, still turns me on, but the feelins ain't there. I am learning alittle from mindgasm, feels good but not the same as when your body does it on my own with the feelings, it really feels like theres 2 ppl, the pleaser and me the reciever. Also there is no waiting, aless or a-in, once I determine that I'm in session. I know within a minute whether its going to be a good session, and that may be a do nothinger thing. I dont stop though, cause I beleave my body is having the time of its life even though I'm not. But thats when most the sexy weird one offs happen that I have described from time to time. Wow this got away from me
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12/03/2022 12:27 pm
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I'm learning for sure..I have a few positions that seem to feel very good..still tweaking. I have been alternating between vaseline and the Doc Johnsons...haven't really noticed a pattern yet. I DO have coconut oil for my popcorn..I may give that a go but I'm worried that eating popcorn will make me horny. 😉
One of the things that didn't work for me was the lube. it gave a slight burn, not slippery enough. I realized I was only wrong when I changed it, the current one doesn't burn but it's too thick.
It's thickness and drying it restricts the internal micro movements of the anus which are fundamental. My technique is to inject a little bit of filtered water first.
I've used coconut oil, it's super slippery and durable, but I found it super thin. During sessions the aneros felt a bit too rough using coconut oil.
We would need a new topic updated on lubricants
12/03/2022 12:49 pm
We would need a new topic updated on lubricants
There have been continuing discussions on the Forum about lubrication types and issues. Next to discussions about the Super-O, lubrication is another frequently discussed topic. I recommend you first read the Lubrication paragraph in the Getting Started chapter of the Aneros WIKI and then read through the Bestlube..., Need Help with lube choice, coconut oil, Coconut Oil and Unrefined shea butter..., threads for additional information and insight into this topic.
Good Vibes to You!
Soul Pleasure reacted
12/03/2022 1:11 pm
We would need a new topic updated on lubricants
I use the lube I make myself. It's amazing, cheap and natural.
40g coconut oil
20g shea butter
10g bees wax
I combine it all together, put it into plastic container, let it solidify, and cut it up into small sticks, then store them in the freezer. Whenever I want to have a session I just put one stick up my bum and can basically have a session with multiple aneros devices without even lubing them up.
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12/07/2022 9:52 am
Just an update..no need for advice...you great people have given me so much great advice. Just wanted to update my journey.
I am spinning my tires and getting a bit bored by the lack of progress. I started swapping out the MGX and Progasm. They do feel different. Of course the Progasm has a more full feeling, and the MGX is more direct and moves more. Both seem to get me the same result. They feel good..and I can usually see a path to orgasm (penile I guess), but I can just never get there. Laying on my back with a pillow under my hip, left left straight and right leg bent a bit..seems to feel good, but eventually my right knee gets sore (make sure you tie your shoes when jogging!) so I swap it. Kneeling doggy style feels good too, but just never gets me more than a good feeling.
Last night (after another failed attempt to use cannibus) I did all of the above. It was my one night alone every 2 weeks so I wanted to get somewhere. It was just more of the same. I decided to put on some porn after 2.5 hours of trying. I found series of Onlyfans videos with a prostate milking, then sex theme. I enjoy watching them and hoped the similarity to my feelings would help. It was nice and I did get pretty turned on a few times with some good feelings but never went beyond. I do enjoy the videos though..dirty guy I am. 😉
After 3 hours I decided to try one last thing which goes against everything I have been told here. I decided to jerk off until I got close to orgasm, then let the aneros movement finish it off. At least that was something I haven't tried yet. It didn't take long and to be honest I think I would have been able to cum while completely soft had I tugged a few more times. After edging myself (hard by now) a few times I finished by squeezing the aneros a few times. THIS is the only new experience I had...after my wet orgasm my dick still felt like it wasn't done so I gave it a few tugs and had another wet orgasm. 2 in a row! I don't know what that means..I doubt the first was a wet prostate orgasm and the second a penis orgasm? I'd say they were both penis orgasm...but stimulated different parts (internal then external to finish).
Anyways...sorry for the bit of a downer post but 2 wet orgasms in a row was something new.
One question...for about a week and half I have felt like I may have a Urinary Tract Infection. Not something I get..ever. All of my life though..I do get that burning, have to pee feeling if I jerk off then pee the wrong way too soon. Usually goes away after an hour or so. Feels like a small tear or something.
I did lots of cranberry juice and garlic (natural antibiotics). A few days later it felt better, but today (after my 3 hour session last night) it feels irritated again (urgent have to pee feeling when just a little bit...worst in morning when not hydrated). The feeling kind of connects to my belly button. At it's worst it was a bit uncomfortable to walk around. I feel like it's not a prostate infection or that would feel worse? Possibly some irritation to my prostate? There is no blood or anything. I suppose I should lay off the aneros for a while. Anyone else get some prostate irritation and does it feel the way I described?
This post was modified 2 years ago by Dundie
Soul Pleasure reacted
12/08/2022 9:56 am
This looks like cystitis. If it is cystitis, it can happen regardless of the use of aneros. It may recur frequently , for your own general safety and also comfort during sessions seek treatment from a physician.
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12/08/2022 10:50 am
@soul-pleasure thank you for the suggestion. I did a bit of reading up on that. I'd say my 'symptoms' are far less severe than described. It feels more like a physical irritation than anything. Maybe I pushed too hard in there with the Aneros and the constant rubbing night after night has just irritated more?
I think I'll just take a week off from the Aneros but that occasional 'have to pee'/sting I've had all of my life if I ejaculate then pee too soon afterwards. Always felt like the valve in there gets a slight tear. I've had that for almost 40 years so its obviously not too serious..just an irritation (pun intended).
I know this is not a medical community..just curious about others' experience with overdoing the Aneros. @soul-pleasure, you did remind me of something. In 1984 or so (when I was about 12) I was getting drops of blood when I peed. I did get a cystoscopy then..a fairly traumatic event for me. :p They didn't find anything, but concluded the hole in the end of my penis was too small and cut it a bit bigger. I can never express how horrible it was peeing for the week following that..I would pace in the bathroom in fear while the pressure to pee grew. It was hell! I am just wondering if the camera may have cause a bit of damage in that valve (pee vs ejaculate). I don't recall that feeling in the years prior to being 12..but who knows.
Certainly something to mention to my doctor on my next visit.
All I do know is I NEVER EVER EVER wants another cystoscopy! The only good part was the toy Speeder Bike we picked up at the mall on the way home. I loved that toy.
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