A different super-Os, brainfog

Sounds like you visited the ‘next place’.

What do people here think about this talk? It seems to be all about the "white light".

"New Eyes" on the Tibetan Book of the Dead: What Happens After You Die?

I am not experienced enough and have not reached these levels, so I can't comment from personal experience. But I have been researching about meditation / spirituality and such so I can relax better mentally for my aneros sessions.

Psychedelic drugs come up a lot through that research. I don't have experience with these either, except edible cannabis. During one experience I might have reached a psychedelic state: The only thing I can remember is a feeling of "coming out from a different realm", breaking through some "fabric", with a faint memory of supernatural beings (guides) on the other side of this fabric. For the rest of my trip I was caught in a mental loop trying to get back into this other realm. I was basically repeating the last minutes of what I could remember doing over and over again.

I didn't get any mental harm from this trip but still, I could never make anything about this until I found out about N,N-DMT a few years later:

The DMT Experience - Terence McKenna

After that you probably learn about 5-MeO-DMT, most likely because the name is very similar. But the experience seems to be completely different. This brings us back to the "white light":

5-MeO-DMT Trip Report | Life Changing Nonduality Insights With The God Molecule

5-MeO-DMT Trip Report - The Q&A | Nonduality, Depression, God, Death, Love, The Cosmic Game

5-MeO-DMT seems to force you into this mental state of white light. I think you might have reached this state (or a similar one) more gently and "more naturally".

I have not taken any drugs after my experience on edibles and your experience encourages me that it's possible to reach similar states without the use of substances. I still think it is valuable to learn about drug-induced experiences in order to know what is possible or what might await you (if this can be even put into words).

Some people might claim that these experiences show some kind of deeper reality / higher energies and such "woo woo". Personally I tend more towards the assumption that all of this just happens in our heads, until proven otherwise. But to each their own. I don't want to discredit different explanations.

I forgot to mention: Please don't hesitate to let me know if you think that all of this is too far fetched. I don't mind getting brought back to earth or other discussions.

@onares 

I agree with the idea that Super-O states can create psychedelic sates, but I don't have experience with psychedelic drugs so I cannot compare both. It seems that at least DMT-like effects are possible, and it's also possible to trigger events that are similar to near death experiences. I don't think that Super-Os can replicate the effects of every substance, so we might be "limited" in the scope of psychedelics effects from Aneros use alone. 

@zentai I have not used any psychedelic drugs. It must have been something else;still alive.

@buttin 

Without using any psychedelic, you can reach similar states with Aneros only or even Aless, like you did. @Helghast calls this "the next place" and for me, it's "the outer realms". It would be interesting to discover that this is exactly like some drug trips, but maybe it's not. I think these experiences are extensions of S-Os, just like Super-Os are extensions of "normal' Os. It's quite special that you could just bypass everything and go straight there. This is impressive. 

Can you give more details about your experience ? Did you feel your body shrinking or expanding, did you lose perception or sense of time, any strong emotions or idea that you focused on ?  

No of those you mentioned, it was just so overwhelming. Could my epilepsy medication have something with this, who knows. I have not got any seizures for years.

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No of those you mentioned, it was just so overwhelming.

White fog and overwhelming pleasure are already quite something ! I was just curious. I don't know if medication has anything to do with the experience.  Some elements of Super-O states will probably always be mysterious, this might be one. I feel it's more likely that your are simply very proficient, there might be no other explanation. 

@zentai I will be digging through @rumel's answer but this will take some time. Do you have a specific post in mind that describes what @Helghast means with "the next place" or your "the outer realms"? I'd be interested in reading your experiences.

@onares 

This might be a bit hard to find, I'm not really sure we ever had a specific thread talking about this... so this is going to be all over the place. I'll see what I can dig out. This might fit better in it's own thread ? 

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Do you have a specific post in mind that describes what @Helghast means with "the next place" or your "the outer realms"?

Here are a couple of threads which touch on the Calm Seas of Orgasm phenomenon -> Calm Sea Orgasm, Calm Seas Orgasm, Calm seas experience (+ proprioception theory) & *Spiritual Orgasm: Interest and Experience

Good Vibes to You!

Thanks @rumel for the links. I really liked the post about proprioception. @bobi1990 is referring to another thread, but the link is broken. I fixed it here

@zentai If this information about "the outer realms" is spread all over the place, it might be interesting to write a quick summary of what this entails? I know this is a lot to ask for, so no problem if you don't have time for that.

@onares 

Time is not really an issue. I can try and write a summary, but basically what this is about is Super-Super-Orgams. After a certain level of pleasure is reached for enough time, or maybe when a certain concentration of pleasure is achieved, things start to happen. At first we call this Super-Orgasm. With enough Super-Os stacking up and building up, you end up in another state. That's the outer realms of Os or the next place. It's just an extension of sustained Super-Os, and in my own theory, what happens when your body is dumping pleasure chemicals over and over and over without a resolution. Then you get in real altered states of mind and psychedelic events. 

There are a lot of examples sprinkled all over the forum, but I don't know if people really make a distinction between a very-very good Super-O session and slipping into something else that is different. This thread has a bit of it : https://community.aneros.com/forum/general-discussion/whats-your-most-memorable-super-o/#post-118597

This other thread has some of it, too, and also bits about experiencing a bit of a mental breakdown from what could be described as S-O triggered bad trips (maybe ?) : https://community.aneros.com/forum/general-discussion/splitting-the-atom/#post-108904  

@zentai 

Taking advantage of the opportunity, how is your journey currently?

I didn't know about this post from the link you provided.

I'm fine.
I enjoy the daily S-os. There are no more "white clouds", it happened once.The butt-buzz continues and that's why my butt and lower back are stiff. I can't block aless s-os, could a butt plug help?

@buttin 

That kind of smoke sensation I never had.

The strangest thing that happened to me was feeling that all my limbs were together (because of the intense pleasure). When he opened his eyes, objects seemed to be further away than they really were and with very low hearing (almost hypnotized by pleasure).

Feeling slight pleasure when realizing that I'm expelling the air through my mouth is also different. Blowing pleasure 😀

@buttin 

For me Super Os are more special when I leave 1 and preferably 2 days between sessions. About the anal plug and the pain I don't know how to answer.

Have incredible orgasms! 😎

@buttin 

You say your Os start automatically as soon as you lay down for the night. For me there are ways to stop them or make them less intense, and it has to do with position. Laying on my left side in a relaxed position, hugging a blanket, chin down, using the same blanket as a pilow, pretty much guarantees that things will not progress very far beyond gentle Os. That's what I call my "safety position". Maybe you can find something similar to put the brakes on your Os before you get to sleep ? Getting a few nights without Os would probably allow things to relax down there. 

I'm afraid using a butt plug would only bring more focus to the general area where Super-Os grow.

Thanks @zentai for your answer and the links to the other threads. This was an interesting read.

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@zentai 

Taking advantage of the opportunity, how is your journey currently?

Not too bad, I think I'll have to take a break at some point and just get back to it once other things are taken care of, as it does not make much sense to attempt spectacular Super-O sessions when other parts of life are being neglected.