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Hi all,just joined. I’d like some help on how to further my journey.

I started using syn some time ago. I graduated to A-Less in time after undergoing a Kegel and reverse Kegel regime,which I still maintain.

I have had many prostate orgasms hands free,but I wish to obtain the super o. I wouldn’t say my prostate orgasms are anymore powerful than penis orgasms,just a little different maybe and they have been almost exclusively A-Less. I am grateful for the pleasure I’ve gotten,and the process has streamlined somewhat for me,pleasure begins almost immediately and usually ends at orgasm,or sometimes the whole session feels like one orgasm. Sometimes I’ve stopped as I feel I’m going to ejaculate and I don’t want to. Other times I haven’t and have ejaculated,and sometimes I manage to have multiple orgasms. I’ve also listened to binaural beats on YouTube. I have to say,they do appear to do something,not so much entrance me,but I think they stop your mind getting distracted.

Anyways,I’ve rambled on enough,I’d love to here thoughts on opening the prostate throttle fully. I wish for the ‘life altering’ ‘mind bending’ orgasms.

regards.

 


   
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Welcome to the Forum ! 

I don't know if I can tackle this one, in my opinion after you reach a certain level it gets harder to troubleshoot your method because things can hinge on small details and there's basically nothing "wrong" about what your are doing. At your level, I guess you already discovered that it's all in your head, right ? 

First thing I'd like to say is that a whole A-Less session feeling like an orgasm is already firmly into Super-O territory. I mean, we're talking about a 30, 45 minutes orgasm or something like that. So even if the intensity is not that high, the sheer length is already Super. 

So maybe one of the first thing I would recommend is accept this as a Super-O, they come in all shapes and sizes, so if for you it's "only a small one", that's fine. So you know you can do it, now you want to get better at it. Just a shift in thinking could help you. So the question becomes, How can you get better Super-Os. 

So I have to ask, what do you think is holding you back ? What's your mind space like during your sessions, what are you thinking about, what's a typical session like, when do you decide you're done, what makes you stop ? The topic is so vast, having more info will help in possibly pin-pointing areas you can work on. Maybe you'll have to scrap the binaurals at some points, but I know they're a huge help so that probably can wait a little. Let's see what others have to say... 


   
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@zentai thanks for reply. I only recently discovered binaural beats.Im not tied to them,nor do I rely on them. I’ve had some fun with them though I don’t listen all the time. 
I have no idea what’s holding back,I’ve saw some videos on the internet,one was of a young man on a bed,his lower half involuntarily bumping and popping,another was a guy in a sleep mask who I can only describe as being electrocuted. I certainly havent had anything at that intensity. But most importantly I haven’t had the orgasms that are felt all over the body and every fibre of my being. I tend to just feel when to stop,I just feel my arousal begin to recede and I ‘call it’.There are times I’ve worked back up and back up again and had multiple orgasms. I have worked hard to separate orgasm and ejaculation. I manage this for the most part but sometimes it sneaks up on me. I’ve also wondered is it all a myth and internet fantasy trolling. I wondered if all the whole thing is just the ability to stave off a normal orgasm ejaculation reflex and just attain the orgasm part. I’m not cynical believe it or not. I’ve just not come away panting or jarred as some anecdotal evidence claims. I don’t think I’ve had anything like some of the descriptions on here. And yes I’m aware we are all individuals,but many individuals have described intensities in the same ballpark.

 

 


   
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@helghast

*Just to add, I re-read this and it sounds a little harsh, that's not intended. I'm not criticizing your way of thinking, just giving perspective from personal experience. Hope it's alright. 

Like I said, from your description you're already doing well. Don't worry about what you see on videos, you can have mind bending orgasms without any movement involved, or you can experience these involuntary movements and shakes without having a Super-O. This will depend on each individual, and even on different sessions. So those guys have this kind of response to their orgasms, maybe you'll have them, maybe not. My opinion is that there is just no way to judge the intensity they're experiencing just by looking, you don't have to believe me but it's possible that your orgasms are more intense than theirs... 

So if you think that without those convulsions and groans and moans and flopping like a fish out of water, you're not "there" yet, that's definitely the kind of belief (mostly we'll talk about expectations)  that can hold you back. I mean, there are several users asking for advice about how to *stop* the leg shakes, so... Maybe they're not in the cards for you, you'll orgasm like crazy for an hour and never get a shake, and that's that. 

As for binaurals, use them as much as you need, and if they work well for you I'll suggest trying erotic hypnosis also, guided relaxation, erotic audios etc. At some point maybe you'll outgrow them, but as long as they work, well they work. At some point they might start to be a distraction (like porn), or maybe in your particular case you'll be fine using them for the next 10 years...

I'll sleep on it, check the other replies later on and see if I can contribute more. Take care ! 

 

 


   
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@zentai I don’t take it as harsh,I’ve asked here because I believe I haven’t yet opened the throttle,so I agree I am not there yet. The beats I find stop distraction,not create one. I tried porn but found it very distracting,as scenes end and new ones must be started. Plus I don’t want to do anything that might affect the chemicals which a lot of research is pointing to nowadays. 
It’s not only videos,on this forum,there are very vivid descriptions of super o and pleasure i don’t believe I’ve experienced yet. I realise that wanting something clearly defined will likely be met with push back on the forum but my question is what it is. Like I said,I haven’t experienced anything particularly stronger than a traditional orgasm intensity. Progress has included multiple orgasms and much longer lasting pleasure for the duration of a session,if that’s it,then that’s it. But i do feel there is more out there,just have to get at it.

 


   
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@helghast I'm believe, I'm at a similar level to you. To @zentai 's point, you may have experienced small Super-Os (or call them Mini-Os or orgasms), which I have had. It's just that they are not full body yet (hopefully). It's kind of impossible to know, since I haven't had a 'large' full body SO, but if I were to scale what I've had (1-10, ejaculation=1), would be a 2 or 2+ tops. From my reading many have described large full body SOs as a 10. I don't see the situation as flat. I have had progress, even if small, then no changes or even setbacks. In both our cases this might just take time and as simple as shifting one subtle element to get there. The question is what might that element be.


   
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@zaqpol

It's great to see you share your insights here, I was thinking about your progress thread and you may be right, there's similarities between your two experiences. The following is a little tongue in cheek, don't take it too seriously but you'll find truth in it. Again, not mocking anyone, I think there's something everyone needs to see, and what you wrote points me so clearly in one direction, I have to tell it like it is. Here goes:

2 ?

2+ ? 

Aaaaaargh! What's that? What's next, 2++ ? I guess 3 needs to be twice as good as 2 and it goes exponential up to 10? What's 10? Most pleasure experienced by a human being in modern history? Spontaneous combustion? Don't be pissed at me, just tell me what a 10 is. 

Can you fathom the sheer impossible distance between 2+ and 10, there's no way you or me or anyone can make that jump. Even with the throttle wide open, it's just too far. Light years away. You.will.never.get.there. We don't have that kind of technology.

Next thing you know you'll be at 2.995 and still chasing 3. I'll take a guess that's this is one of the things you need to shift. You might need to reframe things. There's no 10. This is the Aneros equivalent to "It goes to 11". Everytime you get better at this, you shift the goal posts, you elevate the Super-O to something it is not. First time you get to 10 and you don't turn into a human supernova, you'll be chasing 11 and 12, in no time, 5 will become 2, always shifting. Illusions. You'll have level 7 sessions and call them duds and plateaus while new users will be having amazing new feelings exploring what you would call a 1.25

If I could show this to you, believe me I would. But I can point you in the right direction. A kid can be blissfully happy for hours playing in a sandbox with old, sun-faded plastic trucks from the Dollar Store, why can't you do it as an adult? What changed? I'll put my money on expectations.

From what I can tell both of you guys are beyond the point where someone can just say "Hey, have you tried silicon lube?" It's a mental game, nobody can get inside your head and switch things around until it works. There's no magic pill and it won't necessarily be easy. The Super-Os you are thinking about really do exist, they're not exaggerations, you'll likely go : "What the fuck just happened ?!? That's the Super-O !" At some point, and a moment later it will be twice as good and then... you'll find that you were already there 6 months ago. 

I hope you don't think this was out of bounds, that's my truth and nothing forces you to believe any of it. I wish to sincerely thank both of you for the opportunity you gave me to think back on those things, it always end up helping my own sessions. By helping you I'm helping myself, and that's one if the selfish reasons I want you guys to succeed so much.  Take care !

 


   
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Have to agree with many of the above comments! Don’t focus on what you perceive to be a Super O! Instead focus on the pleasure you are presently enjoying and relax and let each twinge lead you to more intense sustained pleasure! On a given day you may experience long sustained Os that keep on going! Other days not so much but when you experience how you reached the sustained pleasure, you can start from there and experience new heights of enjoyment! Body shaking will sneak up on you when you least expect it but don’t focus on achieving it!


   
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@fred27 yes I do enjoy myself in the moment,I’ve had a lot of fun with my journey. I’m just curious as to what else is out there,and how to get to said destination. As stated I’ve read many vivid descriptions and even saw a couple of videos,just can’t liken my own experiences to them.

 


   
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@helghast I started looking at binaural beats. What binaural beat frequencies and/or videos do you use? 


   
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@zaqpol I don’t know a lot about the specifics,I just listened to a few until I found beats that suited me. I find this one very good. You can either follow link or read the list on the pic. https://youtu.be/jdtAlBWvPBY

 


   
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