is prostate orgasm not as intense as penile orgasm?

Im not sure how to answer this, but i am under the impression that prostate orgasms are indeed often less intense than ejaculatory o's. However, a big disclaimer: i am not sure the prostate orgasms i have experienced can be qualified as such: i have had pleasurable involuntary contractions down there induced by prostate massage, but it wasnt intense enough for me to immediately qualify them as prostate orgasms. And may be a prostate orgasm is something completely different, instead of physical contractions more like a mental experience?
may be someone else here could define what a prostate orgasm actually is and how it feels?

Less imo however, its hard to compare though because to me they feel very different, my most intense super o's were arguably far more intense but the way i felt them is 'different' its really hard to compare. Super t's or orgasms from sex where the prostate is involved are earth shattering, world smashing, mind bending;y intense that it can reduce me to tears.

I think prostate orgasms are far superior to penile ones, they are different but if you develop the ability to orgasm repeatedly for hours on end they are truly mind blowing, in a class by themselves!

@wooripsp A very good question and one which I asked early-on in my Aneros experiences. I'll defer to the "experts" here but what I can say is that the prostate orgasms can be much longer than a traditional penile orgasm (with MMO's). And once you get used to "that feeling" in and around your prostate, be it from p-waves, dry-O's, super-O's, involuntary contractions and anything in-between, at least for me, a "regular" non-Aneros penile-induced orgasm (with ejaculation) can be a (ho-hum) let-down. Once you've experienced a range of feelings in your sessions, you'll know then what they feel like, but you may not be able to adequately describe them in words. You may shake and moan yourself! Good luck to you!

is prostate orgasm not as intense as penile orgasm?

Im not sure how to answer this, but...

Less imo however,...

I think prostate orgasms are far superior to penile ones, they are different but...

There you have your answers in a nutshell !

I read someone saying not to expect your prostate orgasm to be like your penile orgasm. does this mean that it's not as intense as penile orgasm?

That someone may have been me, I've long espoused that prostate based orgasms are qualitatively different from penile based orgasms (especially ejaculatory orgasms). This does NOT mean they are necessarily more or less intense.

to be honest, I expect it to be somewhat more intense than penile orgasm as I saw many videos of involuntary moans and shaking in an aneros session, which, in a penile session on the other hand, are not likely.

Here is where you may be setting a frustrating trap for yourself. First off, having preconceived expectations immediately limits your mental focus to the exclusion of many pleasing sensations which prostate massage can bring to your body. It is those very sensations which form the basis of building arousal toward orgasms. Secondly, viewing videos of men having dramatic physical reactions can be very deceptive as they are not typical reactions to prostate massage. If you were to observe me during a typical Anerosession, it would be about as exciting as watching paint dry! Thirdly, even those who do experience significant involuntary spasms are not necessarily experiencing significant levels of pleasure associated therewith, some have even reported discomfort from the violence of the spasms.

It would be appreciated if you answer my question based on regular prostate orgasms which are quite constantly achievable, not the super ones which are very elusive.

On average, I have 1-2 Anerosessions per week and perhaps 1 in 20 sessions will result in a Super-O. This means I may have only 5-6 Super-O's in a year but all my sessions usually result in having multiple prostate based orgasms. Now, when I compare a single prostate orgasm to a traditional ejaculatory penile based orgasm, I'd say the penile orgasm, on average, is slightly more intense but of shorter duration. If I compare a single prostate orgasm to a penile based dry orgasm, I'd say the prostate orgasm, on average, is slightly more intense. Of course, as you will hear often repeated here on the Forum, we're all unique individuals and our experiences along the Aneros journey will be unique as well. If there is one thing which can be expected, it is the unexpected, allowing yourself to be open to and accept this paradoxical situation will allow you to maximize the experience. Each Anerosession is an opportunity to experience yourself in a new way so why not take advantage of it? "Just Let Go !" and enjoy the moment!

Good Vibes to You !

The way i would look at it is like this; would you rather have 5 consecutive prostate orgasms or 5 consecutive ejaculatory orgasms? I can tell you, after having 5 ejaculatory orgasms in a row (which ive yet to repeat!) this is far, far more intense and far, far more satisfying.

These are much more intense and i think not understanding that prostate orgasms would be different to penile ones held me back for many years. Part of it comes down to how people express themselves on these forums, i found my expectiations were very unrelistic because of the way certain terms are made here like 'Super O' which doesnt neccessirly mean an orgasm that is better than a normal orgasm.

In my case penile orgasms have always been ... meh. So the few feelings I have had are already an improvement.

My standard dry orgasms are certainly less powerful and dramatic than my traditional ejaculatory orgasms. However, each dry O feels like one of the explosive, intense pulses of my TO. If I had like 20 dry Os back to back, non stop, it would feel like my TO. I don't know, I cum extremely hard. Sometimes it's so fucking hard I actually whimper a little because I can hardly withstand the force and power of my traditional ejaculatory orgasm! They also last well over 30 seconds every time, sometimes close to a minute.

My dry Os, just the basic prostate orgasms, last only a few seconds. Sometimes they last like 10-15 seconds and those are ones I'd consider to be like a 6 or 7 on a 10 point scale, with 10 being a Super O. I have at a minimum between 2 to 5 of those level of prostate Os every session. These good dry Os feel about like 50-70% the strength of my normal, regular, non-prostate stimulated traditional orgasm.

My Super Os don't feel like my traditional Os at all. They are very calming, like the universe lets me "see" it, and it's a melting kind of feeling. The build up to one is almost the same intensity as my traditional orgasm and ejaculation, but then when it feels like I'm "cumming" when my Super O takes over, I can barely feel the toy move it's so subtle and unreal. I can feel it in my fingertips even, but it's not like explosive "OMG!!!" like when I'm having a TO.

I finish almost every session with a toy in and a TO. It's the icing on the icing on the cake. Even if I have a Super O and it's great, I'll let things calm down for a while and then when I know my prostate is pretty much drained of energy and I'm lucky to have even a baby dry O again, I'll start working my cock up and explode all over me; it is a monumental orgasm and nothing feels more draining, more satisfying, or more closing than that TO. The TO with a toy in will always be the most powerful and strong orgasm I can have. It's like a 12 out of 10 in intensity, with a Super O being a 10.

Thank you so much for your considerate and thoughtful responses and advice.
none the less, to be honest, I'm actually quite disappointed to know that prostate orgasm is not
what can make me feel such female-level orgasms. I believed those videos of prostate orgasms
with such involuntary moans and shuddering to be real but it seems like it's impossible or
very elusive to experience such ecstatic female-level orgasms as a man.

like many other people here, my motivation for prostate play was jealousy towards female orgasm.
and I've already read a lot of helpful responses about the same concern. but since it just looks
basically impossible for man to experience the equal level orgasms as women, prostate play
do not seem to be a full satisfaction for my enviousness, although it might be better.

the fact that women can have clitoral orgasms, which are way more intense than our penile orgasms,
multiple times very easily within 10 minutes when they masturbate, and the fact that even our prostate orgasms,
which are very elusive to achieve are still way less intense that clitoral orgasms makes me frustrated,
making me think like "then I can never experience such strong orgasms as women in my life"

I'm actually quite disappointed to know that prostate orgasm is not what can make me feel such female-level orgasms. ... it seems like it's impossible or very elusive to experience such ecstatic female-level orgasms as a man. ... my motivation for prostate play was jealousy towards female orgasm. ...it just looks basically impossible for man to experience the equal level orgasms as women, ...the fact that women can have clitoral orgasms, which are way more intense than our penile orgasms which are still way less intense that clitoral orgasms makes me frustrated,

From a few of your other threads it is readily apparent you've got some serious misinformation swimming around in your head young squire. There is little scientific evidence (if any) that female orgasms are significantly more intense than male orgasms, in fact fMRI scans show the same areas of the brain light up to the same degree for both men and women (see This is what your brain looks like during an orgasm). The only significant differences between men and women being length of time for orgasm. In other studies it has been shown that men actually orgasm more regularly than women (95% of the time for men, 69% of the time for women) but our actual orgasmic experiences are remarkably similar (see Male and Female Orgasm: Not So Different?). This female orgasm envy issue has cropped up on the forum numerous times before and I invite you to read through some of these threads to assuage your misinformed thinking. 18 and ready but...,Some serious questions, Biggest obstacle: Envy for the oh-so-special female orgasm = huge pressure & Are you jealous of the female orgasm? The sooner you can straighten out your thinking the sooner you will be on your way to enjoying your full orgasmic potential as nature intended. There is absolutely no point in limiting your pleasure potential by chaining yourself with false beliefs. Good Vibes to You !

In my case penile orgasms have always been ... meh. So the few feelings I have had are already an improvement.

I think with traditional masturbation I very slowly trained myself out of experiencing orgasm at all. Due to limited privacy in my teenage years, it was all about racing to ejaculation as quickly as possible... and so that's what I got good at. It's funny around here we talk about separating orgasm from ejaculation... but I think I unwittingly did this years ago, but was left stranded on the ejaculation side of the divide. :confused:
I had to get into things like edging, prostate massage, etc. to get back in touch with high magnitude pleasure and orgasm. So many familiar-but-forgotten sensations have come back to me. Like the feeling of my abdomen muscles pulling the top half of my body forward, involuntary gasps, while my brain clouds-out and gets drowned in impossibly sweet pleasure. I genuinely forgot that feeling existed. So yeah, it's been a huge upgrade for me too.

Again I think its worth re-iterating this point as it is a very important one IMO; i feel prostate orgasm intensity perception has been greatly exaggerated by certain videos and even certain verbiage in the descriptiove terms of what a prostate orgasm is by users here. Terms such as 'dry orgasm' which counjours up the image of having a full blown penile orgasm without the semen pumping out. So we imagine that anything less than a decent or normal/average ejaculaotry orgasm that we musnt be 'rewired' enough yet or perhaps that we cant even work out if we have had a prostate orgasm at all, when we likely have.

The worst offender is the term 'Super O' which is so misleading and so terribly named, whomever made that moniker i would love to punch squarly in the face!, that it causes confusion, frustration and in some cases pain, potentially for years. I have been led to beleive certain fallacies for a number of years and as a result became depressed and even caused myself internal physical damage which lasts until this day, all from more than 10. years ago.

So i say it again as ive said many times before... be careful what you say here, be careful how your word or describe your experiences here and think about the damage it could do someone that has these expectations.

Dont beleive the videos folks, there are very few that are accurate (we all know which one i mean) and the rest are for 'show'

Thank you so much for your considerate and thoughtful responses and advice.
none the less, to be honest, I'm actually quite disappointed to know that prostate orgasm is not
what can make me feel such female-level orgasms. I believed those videos of prostate orgasms
with such involuntary moans and shuddering to be real but it seems like it's impossible or
very elusive to experience such ecstatic female-level orgasms as a man.

like many other people here, my motivation for prostate play was jealousy towards female orgasm.
and I've already read a lot of helpful responses about the same concern. but since it just looks
basically impossible for man to experience the equal level orgasms as women, prostate play
do not seem to be a full satisfaction for my enviousness, although it might be better.

the fact that women can have clitoral orgasms, which are way more intense than our penile orgasms,
multiple times very easily within 10 minutes when they masturbate, and the fact that even our prostate orgasms,
which are very elusive to achieve are still way less intense that clitoral orgasms makes me frustrated,
making me think like "then I can never experience such strong orgasms as women in my life"

This is just my experience, so just take what I say with a grain of salt, but I also want to put this out there so you feel like a woman's orgasms are not all the same too.

My wife is beyond being extremely orgasmic. The woman can cum from me tweaking her nipples sometimes for just a few seconds, with her panties still on. When I'm in her sometimes she looks like she's enjoying it but I can't tell because she's not like "OMG OMG FUCK YES I'M CUMMING!!!!" and going all wild and crazy like some women (I'm thinking on porno here) can and do. (I'm not saying that real women, not actors, go wild as F when they cum...my wife goes nuts too lol). I might ask "how is this?" (we talk a lot during sex) and she says "I came." But I didn't feel a thing, or sense any physical change that alerted me to her orgasm. Yet sometimes she cums so hard I can feel her vagina actually bending/squeezing my cock. It's a varied bunch for her, there is a whole range of orgasms that are like a "poof!" quick, small yet real, and those that go on and on for well over a minute. And these can be clitoral and vaginal/internal, or a varied mix of the two at the same time depending on what we're doing.

I've explained in extremely detailed ways what my prostate orgasms feel like to my wife over the last few years and she agrees that they sound a lot, like 90%+, like her orgasms. She said especially her g-spot Os. Her clitoral Os sound like my penile Os, but they differ because my prostate and other glands and muscles are working to pump semen through me and out of me, and that pulsation is different physically.

Just wanted to throw out there that while you're looking at videos of Aneros users and think that that's what strong female Os might feel like inside a man, think again. My prostate Os are huge and exhilarating and I don't move around like that ever! But I'm not disqualifying the intense pleasure those guys are feeling. Just want to let you know that a woman can have the most small and huge orgasms sometimes within a minute of each other (or less even) and that's just how they are. Actually, once I started to talk to her about my prostate Os, I realized I was having them for real because I always expected these "holier than thou" level orgasms from my prostate, because that's the way prostate stimulation culture has portrayed it over the years. I was wrong on this, dead wrong.

Thank you so much guys.. I feel much better now anyway. because of your considerate words... I truly appreciate it.
but I have a question to dear techpump, if your prostate orgasm was 90%+ similar to her Gspot orgasm,
why do you think that your wife's vocal & contractional responses are way more intense?
even if your Os and hers are 90%+ similar, wouldn't that mean that yours is milder version of hers
and thus you(possibly men) cannot approach her level of intensity?

Hey, folks, only for curiosity's sake, do you all have your tapelines at hand for your sessions? Drawing all these comparisons, at least on a percentage scale, leads nowhere and sounds so funny and even more misleading to me. Let's do a crowdfunding to get some MRI scanners for a contest! :rolleyes:

@wooripsp, I can't respond for @techpump but your question asking for an explanation in the differences in the level of vocalization between men and women during orgasm is pretty easily answered. Men are enculturated to control, often even suppress, their emotional expressions whereas women are enculturated to openly express and/or share those same emotional feelings. The intensity level of ones pleasurable feelings during orgasm are not necessarily reflective of their demonstrative vocalizations or physical manifestations. Just because a man doesn't loudly vocalize or vocalize as extensively as a woman during orgasm doesn't equate to a lesser feeling of pleasure or intensity.
Good Vibes to You !

Hey, folks, only for curiosity's sake, do you all have your tapelines at hand for your sessions? Drawing all these comparisons, at least on a percentage scale, leads nowhere and sounds so funny and even more misleading to me. Let's do a crowdfunding to get some MRI scanners for a contest! :rolleyes:

If i had learned of a more accurate level of expectation i could have saved myself a decade of pain and suffering, so at least in my case it would have been of great benefit indeed.

Dear @rumel, that makes me feel much better now. I truly appreciate your continuous thoughtful responses.

I'm not surprised that the female orgasm jealousy issue is one that men, especially young men, encounter but I am surprised that for some people this concern persists in some guys for a long time given that it's not only something you realise is a huge misconception just from personal experience and discussions with others, but there is literally scientific data proving that it's a myth.

I don't think it's a coincidence that guys worrying about this occurred around about the same time as the increase in young men complaining of erectile dysfunction: porn is the culprit. This is yet another detrimental way in which excessive porn use from a young age affects the sex lives of young men.

And as to the above re the amount of noise females make during sex, this is a phenomenon well known to science for a long time occurring across many mammalian species. Female sexual vocalisation serves a specific social function and has nothing to do with the amount of pleasure they are experiencing. Many women cannot experience orgasm at all and yet still have the same vocalisation pattern as women that do.

As said above, the only real difference between male and female orgasms is duration. Even refractory period is equivalent to males in most individuals, with only the same percentage of women being multi-orgasmic as those who are anorgasmic.

The fact is, male or female, to increase the intensity of your sexual experiences it requires knowledge and practice.

Porn turns human sexuality into a commodity to be exploited for financial gain, and that means preying on every addiction, every insecurity and every desire and expectation you have - repeatedly and ever more intensely, to the point that it warps not only your conscious understanding of sex but even your brain chemistry. You blokes in your middle age dabbling in a bit from time to time might think this is all an exaggeration but we're at the point where habitual use of HD porn from the age of 12-13 is basically the norm for males now, and it is extremely damaging.

Dear @DC88 I agree with what you said sir. but I already know that porns are fake,
and the women's moaning during intercourse is not purely from pleasure.

But the reason I still can't get rid of my jealousy is that, according to many people online,
women themselves or their husbands, they describe female orgasms to be apparently more intense than ours.
for example, once I asked on reddit.com/r/sex when women masturbate and have clitoral orgasms if they have any
involuntary moans like in porn. not all but certainly uncommon number of women said they have those involuntary
moans due to the intense sensation that some of them even had to bite a pillow in order not to be heard by her
family when she masturbated. it was not too rare when for men it's extremely rare or virtually never.

aside from the fact that they usually have around 3 orgasms in 5-10 minutes session with 99% probability
(which proves what many men like to say to feel better, that women are hard to cum is not so true
when they masturbate and the devastating fact that they can cum multiple times even with more intensity
and duration of up to 10+ seconds when men can only have single smaller one for only about 3-5 seconds.
every single aspects of male orgasms look way inferior. I believe it to be quite close to truth, since I asked like
30 women on many website, browsed through dozens of orgasm-experimental articles on google although
I admit that those who answered should be more sexually active ones. )
the fact that clitoral orgasm seems apparently more intense than penile orgasm and when prostate orgasm is
even less intense than the penile orgasm, I feel really frustrated that the intense female orgasm to the extent of
having to bite a pillow not to be heard by family is never possible in my life even with years of prostate training,
when women can have them on their will consistently without any practice, even for multiple times in a row
with triple to double the duration.

during our p-spot orgasms, it's better not to touch the penis and even if it's ok, once I ejaculate everything is over
when many women enjoy clitoral stimulation and orgasms on top of g-spot orgasms which they describe to be the most
intense and satisfying one, which for men is originally impossible to get close to such level of ecstatic pleasure.

I think virtually nobody can fully refute what I said and those who say there's no difference are those
who haven't thought about our inferiority as carefully as I did. I feel that they only tried to feel better,
rather than being realistic with the disappointing reality, which of course is very wise and rational
but for my personality it's hard. I just feel a tremendous chest pain and have no idea how to deal with this depression.
I think my envy is basically impossible to be fully gotten rid of like a women being jealous of men being physically stronger,
but I have never felt this in my entire life. I just took every female advantages here and there for granted,
but since orgasm is a first and original pleasure a creature can have, which I believe is
meant be valued quite high in any creature's life, and men are certainly inferior on that department
for virtually every aspects, as soon as I realized that, I fell into an infinite depression.
looks like men are meant to work hard and contribute while women are meant to be just happy themselves,
like from many other aspects of human life.

looks like men are meant to work hard and contribute while women are meant to be just happy themselves,
like from many other aspects of human life.

... and even when they bear the children ... just happyness, no pain at all ... enviable!?

I for myself can say I feel really so lucky that the intense male ...

... orgasm to the extent of having to bite a pillow not to be heard ...

... by neighbours now is possible every day in my life even with only one year of prostate training.

Looking back I'd say it's been always a matter of awareness and focus. If I do not have the right mindset, penile orgasms as well as prostate orgasms, p-waves, superOs or whatever can't be satisfying, with the right mindset instead even caressing my palms can give me sufficient orgasms.

It's not just the way we think about sex, the way we talk about sex has been altered by the way sex is presented to us via culture and society, particularly as sex is something we never want to appear inferior in. Anecdotal reports on sex subreddits is not an accurate representation of real sex lives, as evidenced by the fact that this entire concept did not exist prior to the widespread use of porn. The same can be said for many other aspects of sex.

You mention the g-spot which is not so much a creation of the porn industry but the sex toy one. Large scale peer reviewed scientific study has shown unequivocally that it does not exist, but by propagating this myth you can sell millions of new toys and books to women and their partners. The effect is often disappointment and insecurity for both but who wants to believe they or their partner is sexually inadequate? Hence you only really find confirmation bias online.

Actually the whole g-spot thing seems to be dying out after that big study was published, but no doubt there will be something else soon. Capitalism demands new markets and if it has to exploit human sexuality to do so, it has and will again.

I really think you have gotten yourself into a very rigid mindset regarding this orgasm issue and honestly it sounds like it has become worryingly tied to negative emotions for you. I can assure you that this is all a construct of modern culture, if you were an Ancient Greek aristocrat you'd probably instead be worrying that your penis was far too large and inelegant and so how could women possibly enjoy sex with you etc. etc. again equally baseless.

In this case you can escape these warped expectations of sexuality quite easily by not watching porn, or at least not allowing yourself believe everything you see, including the "amateur" stuff. When experiencing sex only through interaction with actual women I am pretty sure you will realise that whilst all individuals are subtly different and whilst there are differences in sexual behaviour between men and women, orgasm itself is one of the surprisingly constant experiences - and this makes sense given the fact that anatomically, above the genitals there is essentially no difference at all in the anatomy of orgasm between the sexes.

My wife's orgasms are from about 0 to 10 and double, but she gets so sensitive after a second orgasm she has to quit and push away. I would say all my ejaculation orgasms (is that an oxymoron?) are just about equivalent. But if I have ejaculation with prostate massage involved, it varies from 3 to 10 times better. I have yet to experience just prostate orgasm. I just haven't found the spot or method yet. But I can remember once getting a p exam by my GP and I almost came all over his table, not that I'm into guys. The few times wife and I enjoyed simultaneous orgasms I can count on 2 fingers but it's very emotionally satisfying. There's lots of stories out there. We're all different.

@wooripsp, I can't respond for @techpump but your question asking for an explanation in the differences in the level of vocalization between men and women during orgasm is pretty easily answered. Men are enculturated to control, often even suppress, their emotional expressions whereas women are enculturated to openly express and/or share those same emotional feelings. The intensity level of ones pleasurable feelings during orgasm are not necessarily reflective of their demonstrative vocalizations or physical manifestations. Just because a man doesn't loudly vocalize or vocalize as extensively as a woman during orgasm doesn't equate to a lesser feeling of pleasure or intensity.
Good Vibes to You !

So true. My wife has orgasms that are extremely powerful to her but she doesn't make a sound, her breathing doesn't even really change at all. Other times she's so tense her whole body becomes one tight strung muscle and gritting her teeth, and then a huge release/relaxation and its over. Not all female orgasms are visibly or audibly noticeable, regardless of intensity. I, on the other hand, can carry on quite loudly when I cum because it is extremely intense and I cannot control myself. While other times its not as intense and I can remain quiet.

This thread is exactly what I needed at this time in my journey.

I began prostate and back door play 23 months ago and, as many, I continue to seek the ultimate orgasm along with the so-called dry orgasms. Every day, I read about, on one side, frustration with lack of results and the other, how great the achievement feels.

Even if I'm fully aware of the 'no expectation' rule, it is easier said than done and I'm sure a good number of participant in these sessions agree with me. Although my quest has not been a frustrating one, quite on the contrary, it has been a great ride so far and I do not take the sensations and pleasures for granted.

BUT, I have always been interested to know how these illusive levels of orgasm really feel compared to what I know so well; penile wet orgasm. I also have seen the videos...This thread has finally provided me with some insight on measuring my progress and most importantly my expectations.

First, if @rumel , our resident expert and wise man has only 5 to 6 Super-O a year why should I expect one in my next session? That thought has now been squared away and I feel huge pressure taken off my shoulders. I will welcome the event if and when it presents itself.

Second, @techpump 's comparison of pleasure level between prostate and penile orgasm has driven the message home for me. It strongly forced me to re-evaluate where I'm at and what I really feel at this stage of my journey. Maybe my friend @goldenboy was right answering one of my blogs; maybe I have been achieving Dry-Os all along but my OBSESSION to reach for the top prevented my from seeing it.

He was right! I am and have been there all along. In my sessions since reading this thread, my mind has been absolutely cleared; I consider my strong and great feelings as Dry-Os and it is absolutely amazing the difference it made. The same goes for my excellent Aless sessions; I'm enjoying the levels of sensation and no longer looking for a higher level. All along, I expected a Dry-O to far surpass my penile orgasm/ejaculation sensations; a monumental misconception as attested by @techpump in his entry.

I now realize my new outlook has taken a huge burden off my mind and I am now able to enjoy the fruit of my journey. This may sound corny but the way I see it is; when I started my journey, I was on the ground looking up at the apples beyond my reach in the apple tree. I did not realize I had succeeded in climbing in the tree and savoring the apples as I was too busy trying desperately to reach the top branch. My apples are dam good!

Thank you @wooripsp for starting the thread and @rumel, @techpump, @The_Fury, @SOwithoutAneros and all the other contributors for your insight; you have helped me tremendously.

BTW, I don't really care about how my prostate and penile pleasures measure up against the female version. The way I see it is; if they enjoy multiple earth shattering orgasms, all the better for them. I sure enjoy being with my wife, watching her getting off in another world for extended period of time. Just my 2 cents worth.

Life is wonderful!

I love your picture, @GGringo, and I'd say if you can manage to fully focus on the apple you just are eating, you got it. If anyone else eats an equal apple, he can do it without any focus and without savoring it. Thus he might miss all the great sensual pleasures of a conscious degusting and envy you for your apple. But it's not the apple. It's the magic moment of enjoyment you made of it.

This thread is exactly what I needed at this time in my journey.

I began prostate and back door play 23 months ago and, as many, I continue to seek the ultimate orgasm along with the so-called dry orgasms. Every day, I read about, on one side, frustration with lack of results and the other, how great the achievement feels.

Even if I'm fully aware of the 'no expectation' rule, it is easier said than done and I'm sure a good number of participant in these sessions agree with me. Although my quest has not been a frustrating one, quite on the contrary, it has been a great ride so far and I do not take the sensations and pleasures for granted.

BUT, I have always been interested to know how these illusive levels of orgasm really feel compared to what I know so well; penile wet orgasm. I also have seen the videos...This thread has finally provided me with some insight on measuring my progress and most importantly my expectations.

First, if @rumel , our resident expert and wise man has only 5 to 6 Super-O a year why should I expect one in my next session? That thought has now been squared away and I feel huge pressure taken off my shoulders. I will welcome the event if and when it presents itself.

Second, @techpump 's comparison of pleasure level between prostate and penile orgasm has driven the message home for me. It strongly forced me to re-evaluate where I'm at and what I really feel at this stage of my journey. Maybe my friend @goldenboy was right answering one of my blogs; maybe I have been achieving Dry-Os all along but my OBSESSION to reach for the top prevented my from seeing it.

He was right! I am and have been there all along. In my sessions since reading this thread, my mind has been absolutely cleared; I consider my strong and great feelings as Dry-Os and it is absolutely amazing the difference it made. The same goes for my excellent Aless sessions; I'm enjoying the levels of sensation and no longer looking for a higher level. All along, I expected a Dry-O to far surpass my penile orgasm/ejaculation sensations; a monumental misconception as attested by @techpump in his entry.

I now realize my new outlook has taken a huge burden off my mind and I am now able to enjoy the fruit of my journey. This may sound corny but the way I see it is; when I started my journey, I was on the ground looking up at the apples beyond my reach in the apple tree. I did not realize I had succeeded in climbing in the tree and savoring the apples as I was too busy trying desperately to reach the top branch. My apples are dam good!

Thank you @wooripsp for starting the thread and @rumel, @techpump, @The_Fury, @SOwithoutAneros and all the other contributors for your insight; you have helped me tremendously.

BTW, I don't really care about how my prostate and penile pleasures measure up against the female version. The way I see it is; if they enjoy multiple earth shattering orgasms, all the better for them. I sure enjoy being with my wife, watching her getting off in another world for extended period of time. Just my 2 cents worth.

Life is wonderful!

HELL YES MAN!!! Thanks so much I appreciate your very kind words 🙂