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Hello Rumel,

I found your tip of temporal abstinence and periodical milking especially helpful, as it really helped to lessen my urge to masturbate. I usually ejaculate once or twice per month, and try not to touch my penis during session. During the milking process I didn't touch my penis and as a result the milking didn't leave my on the edge or PONR, which I'm very proud of. I performed the milking procedure with an Njoy Pure Wand. The amount of prostatic fluid was not huge but the relief was pleasant.

I've been using my Aneros toys for about 4 years and so far I'm still waiting for the first p-waves and dry orgasm to come.

Does anybody of you combine temporal abstinence and periodic milking?

What are your experiences so far?

I consider the periodic milking as a special rewiring phase because during milking I don't touch my penis at all and massage my prostate with the toy.

Greetings, AnerosHelix


   
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Excellent post full of knowledge! Going to go read all the links as well!


   
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Hi Guys, I decided to update this thread in light of @SOwithoutAneros statement -

Admittedly my releases are mostly ruined ones now keeping my arousal nearly as high as before.

in the thread The two-week mark of Semen Retention. In addition to prostate milking, , ruined orgasms are an alternate way to relieve the physical discomfort of the 'blue balls' syndrome without necessarily losing arousal. For some more information on the types of ruined orgasms and methods used to create them you can visit this femdom writer's Ruined Orgasm Training page, she also includes prostate milking as a type of 'ruined orgasm'. Good Vibes to You !


   
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I bumped this thread because I've added into my original post reference to a new video I recently saw by Rena Malik, a urology doctor regarding semen retention . It is called Does science support No Nut November?! | A Urologist explains semen retention, I hope it adds to your knowledge as you grow forward.

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Posted by: @rumel

I bumped this thread because I've added into my original post reference to a new video I recently saw by Rena Malik, a urology doctor regarding semen retention . It is called Does science support No Nut November?! | A Urologist explains semen retention, I hope it adds to your knowledge as you grow forward.

Good Vibes to You!

Interesting that it's mostly about the conclusion of it's more important for holding off on pornography rather than ejaculation. What are your thoughts on pornography causing potentially harmful side effects?


   
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What are your thoughts on pornography causing potentially harmful side effects?

I've seen and used porn as an arousal amplifier myself on occasion so I can't condemn it use. However, I think pornography is like a powerful drug. In small doses and appropriately spaced intervals, use of drugs can have positive effects but they can also be abused/overused creating addiction and altering ones thoughts, behavior and even bodily processes. The effects of porn addiction are pretty well known and documented and can have similar effects as drug abuse. I think one needs to be cautious when employing pornography as an arousal amplifying tool and always remember most porn is generated based upon fantasy ideas and does not reflect the reality of most common types human sexual behaviors. That is not to say that extremes of sexual behavior depicted in porn do not exist in reality but they are the outliers.

I think the use of pornography is an individual choice, just be aware there are psychological consequences to its use.

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@rumel I mostly like to just use it as arousal amplifiers due to scrolling through tumblr and seeing guys in suits all dressed up. Do you think there's a difference between video and photo porn? I think the photos set the scene and allow the imagination to wander and fantasize, whereas a video takes away from that and is a controlled moment so it's more 'real' on the screen, but less 'real' in your mind : which is a thing I think would help those along their journey if there's a difference?


   
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Do you think there's a difference between video and photo porn?

Of course this is just my opinion. Yes, I think there is a difference. A single photo is a moment in time and engages the mind to fill in the fantasy of a 'before' & 'after' story. The less explicit the photo engages the mind to create a fantasy story even more. A video usurps the mind's creative roll in the fantasy experience, to a lessor extent erotic stories also do this. Everyone will react differently in their interpretation of the imagery based upon their own life experiences and belief system.

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Resurrecting this thread rather than starting a new one with some observations and a question that I can't find an answer to... 

I'm now on day 36 (at least but that's easiest to count as I know I did not ejaculate at the end of October) of semen retention ... NNN got it started and I've continued on for a few reasons:

First - since practicing semen retention I have experienced Super O's consistently and increasingly longer and deeper as the month went on.  After the first couple the rest have been multi Super O sessions almost for as long as I care to keep them going.  The last two involved evening sessions, followed by waking early naturally and being on fire and having more multi Super O sessions but without an Aneros.  Mine have generally been what I think are categorized as "rough seas" orgasms with a lot of uncontrollable spasms involving frequently my whole body. So last night and this morning I was consciously trying to achieve some "calm seas" moments, with some success at least as I understand that experience ... light quivering but trying to stay kind of right on the edge of spasms and letting my whole body tingle and wash over with a warm feeling.  As a result I am somewhat hesitant to hit the "reset" button and lose this experience, albeit arguably for a short period of time (I'm 56 so that time may be longer than a younger man).   Which leads to the next reason:

Second - I'm relatively new to this journey, having started prostate exploration maybe 8-9 months ago, got a Helix Syn V in mid September and an Eupho Syn at the end of November.  All my breakthroughs have been with an Aneros FWIW.  While I'd like to wish that I'm really rewired, I do still periodically think about my penis during a session, certainly the handful of times I've gotten an erection in the middle of a particularly powerful orgasm, but from time to time my mind wanders and at least last night and somewhat today I had a considerable desire to end the session by ejaculating... some of which from time to time I've had a hard time ending a session when I needed to go to sleep or had to get on with the day and that is one way to stop the train from rolling.  One of the changes/hurdles I've encountered is settling in to not be always expecting the breaking the sound barrier ending of the TO, which you'd think would not be an issue given the extended pleasure of the prostate O but I've been having TO's for a looooong time! 😉  But I'm concerned not only with the reset button but also that it may hinder my rewiring progress.... 

So how long should one abstain from ejaculation to make sure you've really rewired?  What are the odds of derailing all the progress I've made?  Any reason to not just continue assuming blueballs etc... aren't an issue (which haven't really been thus far)?


   
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I think of rewiring as understanding the feelings that can come of the prostate and not just holding off ejaculation. I think if you can have super Os and Aless feelings you are rewired.

However on your question if I have sex and reset it that way. I still always continue to have the Aless feeling. If I masturbate I tend to lose the Aless feeling for around 1-2 days and it slowly builds up again after time. 

If you are after the calm seas. Work on your breathing / meditation and relaxing during a session. Try take deep breaths and on every breathe sink into a deeper state.

As for thinking about the penis. Meditation teaches you to accept those thoughts and let them float away. Accept the thought and let it go.

Retention is always an interesting topic. I found getting thru the first 2-3 days is hard then it's ok. But also go too long and it can distract me in a session as all I want to do is cum.

If you can maintain aneros sessions and weekly sex that is the holy grail. As it literally makes sex x10 better if you can give up masturbating. Death grip is a real thing.


   
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So how long should one abstain from ejaculation to make sure you've really rewired?

I don't think there is an end to the rewiring process but once you've reliably gotten to Super-O's I think you can consider yourself rewired. The whole idea for semen retention in this context is to build sufficient arousal levels to get to the Super-O's in the first place, thus establishing the neural pathways in the brain to make replication possible. After you've achieved this level of practice there are numerous other sensual paths you may wish to explore. I don't think that semen retention need be a lifestyle choice for Aneros practitioners.

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 What are the odds of derailing all the progress I've made?

As long as you don't create a habit of going for Super-T's or also always finishing an Anerosession with an ejaculatory experience sans Aneros, I think you will be just fine. I think having Anerosessions as distinct from other masturbatory sessions should preserve your rewiring sufficiently and not cause compromises.

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Any reason to not just continue assuming blueballs etc... aren't an issue (which haven't really been thus far)?

I am unclear what exactly your asking here but I think 'cleaning the pipes' occasionally is a good idea and there's no reason to suffer 'blue balls' unnecessarily. 

I think @jiji2000's thoughts above are spot on as well.

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