I'm 51. I'm 15 months on the journey. I've been doing Semen Retention for many many months now.
Ive noticed it takes my body about two weeks to feel horny again. It's almost like clock work! I felt the "urge" on Monday, checked my calendar and noticed it was 2 weeks and this has become a trend with me! "Hey, I'll bet it's been two weeks! Time for some edging!"
I have been reading the Multi Orgasmic man and it's neat to see a lot of the senior wisdom on this sight and the wiki is rooted in that book.
I'm still trying to grasp some of the Tao concepts but trying!
Anyway, just curios if others have noticed a clock-work like rhythm to rebuilding their horniness.
My latest rebuilding time or let’s say horniness leading to an ejaculation has been one day. To answer your question, not as regular as clockwork here, to me it depends on too many circumstances. Admittedly my releases are mostly ruined ones now keeping my arousal nearly as high as before. Cheers, Mart
@HereByAccident I practice SR all the time now and I definitely feel the 'cycle' of horniness. For me, here is the cycle: Following an ejaculation which I need to control my 'blue-balls', I will be in a 'low-horny' mode for the next 3 days or so. Starting at about Day 4, I will start to ramp-up in horniness. At about Day 7, I will experience the so-called max testosterone boost and will feel it. From Days 8 to about 10-12, I will be at a high-point of horniness and wish that I could "bottle" that feeling forever! But I tried for a wet dream recently in the most recent cycle but found that the blue-balls made me very uncomfortable, so at Day 11, I had to ejaculate. I will keep trying for a wet dream!
PS I found that cold packs and cold showers helped, but did not completely eliminate the blue-balls feeling. I'll keep trying!
@SOwithoutAneros - wow! 1 day! Man that is great... in your experience is a ruined orgasm (which I understand to still be an ejaculation) better for rebuilding energy/horniness than a traditional ejaculation? I’ve not done a few ruins, and enjoy them, but not enough to compare refresh.
@goldenboy - i’ve Also been trying for a wet dream... last one I had was 25-ish years ago (51 now)... I had very few as a kid.
@SOwithoutAneros - wow! 1 day! Man that is great... in your experience is a ruined orgasm (which I understand to still be an ejaculation) better for rebuilding energy/horniness than a traditional ejaculation?
The best ruined orgasm can hardly be named an ejaculation, because you should avoid any spurts at all. The character of my last awesome experience has been shaped by about 45 seconds of "building up" time without any further stimulation at all, while I felt my semen creeping up my shaft, then oozing out like overflowing* and running down the shaft. Somehow this keeps your glands hold back some hormones otherwise initiating your refractory period. Instead you would love to go on stroking, but if you give in, you might really ejaculate with all the downsides, why it costs a lot of self-control to call it a session and calm down. DrCumcontrol shows all the skills needed to provide his volunteers such a perfectly ruined orgasm - even in slow motion - easily to be found adding "p*rnhub" to your search criterias. Another great performer is VoyeurOfBliss showing how "controlling the throbs*" works. The trick is to clench like you would to hold back your pee.
(*NSFW! Definitely not me in those videos.)
First it might feel awkward, but soon you will discover your orgasm in a new way and sense a lot of benefits. Btw, the special feelings make some hubbies so needy that they endure chastity* 24/7 for months or even longer.
Enjoy!
Mart
@SOwithoutAneros Thanks for the link. Excellent video! It reminds me of a few years ago when I began to experience orgasms apart from ejaculations. It was weird but wonderful. I always equated orgasms with ejaculations. I enjoy having the ability to experience multiple orgasms with or without ejaculating. Since the end of last year I have tried semen retention (SR) and this has been amazing. It has greatly increased my pleasure.
Mine is at 2-3 days and then it gets voracious once I past a week. I recently completed a 23 day SR and literally from day 15 to day 23 I was watching porn on the way to work and on the way home every day. I was sooooo horny it was unreal.
@HereByAccidentFor me, here is the cycle: Following an ejaculation which I need to control my 'blue-balls', I will be in a 'low-horny' mode for the next 3 days or so. Starting at about Day 4, I will start to ramp-up in horniness. At about Day 7, I will experience the so-called max testosterone boost and will feel it. From Days 8 to about 10-12, I will be at a high-point of horniness and wish that I could "bottle" that feeling forever! !
I experience almost the same cycle. Three days, seven days, and the following week is off the charts. The constant teasing and edging doesn't help. It gets to the point where I almost don't want release. I hate the drop that occurs after a climax.
@HereByAccident we seem to be on the same path in terms of time in on the journey and practicing SR, I got you by a couple years in age though. I can't attest to my arousal level following any kind of pattern as it seems that I am constantly horny and still have the libido of a sixteen year old. Maybe that is because I in recent months I've learned through edging to have orgasms without ejaculating. It's probably been 2 months since I went a little too far on the ponr and actually spurted out semen. It seems like whenever my balls start to get too full that I just push out the excess while edging so I have not any issues to date with blueballs.
This leads me to @goldenboy and the desire for wet dreams. In the past month I have noticed most mornings when I wake up that there is a wet spot where I have been sleeping so I'm guessing I have been having wet dreams. On three occasions now I have experienced while awake the feeling of what feels like a warm waves rolling over my body from my toes to the top of my head. The first time it happened I wondered what was going on. The second time I thought to myself this feels pretty good. The third time I finally realized that I was basically having a hfwo. My body was naturally releasing the built up semen and I was awake to feel it and it feels amazing. My whole body had a warm glow and I felt like I was in the most peaceful place in the world. I only wish there was a way to induce that to happen but I'm pretty sure it has to happen on it's own.
I'm into my journey about 1.5 yrs. and I recently experienced a vivid wet dream. I don't remember the exact number of days from an ejaculation, and don't normally make it a point to practice semen retention. I feel completely satisfied after an Aless or Aneros session, although I still have an ejaculation release once or twice a week. It's an amazing journey and learning experience for sure!
I started SR 6 months ago. After 1 day I am ready for a good aneros session (less and it is hit or miss). At 3-4 days of edging there is usually a day or two where I am horny all day long, and aless is sort of constantly on standby. Then that subsides and comes back over the following week at some point. Also after 3-4 days my aneros sessions are really intense. I've never done SR more that 14 days though.
I practice semen retention. For blue balls, I wait it out, it will subside eventually, usually 24 hours. And the feeling comes and goes. I love the feeling though. Having big/full/firm testicles all the time is fun. The intense pain in the balls leads to mini orgasms for me. The sensitivity to touch is amazing. I would encourage anyone practicing semen retention or experiencing blue balls to learn to enjoy it instead of ejaculating.
I'm at 28 days now - I believe this is the longest I've intentionally gone!
@SOwithoutAneros following your comments above, I've become rather adept at the ruined orgasm! I've had 3 sessions this weekend with 3 or more ruined orgasms each session - no "spurts allowed"! Just as you described - I approach PONR and back off repeatedly. Finally I can feel the cum slowly rise and ooze out. A few times I've damn near lost it. But clenching down and pressing into the Perenium has prevented an ejaculation when I overdid it.
i'm going to keep going on this SR run I think... with ruined Orgasms I'm able to purge old goo, and remain very aroused mentally and physically.
i'm next going to try an Aneros ride immediately after a ruined O and see what happens - I'm interested I seeing the response level at that point. Debating between my Progasm JR, my HiH 950, or one of my assorted helix models.
i was going to try it last night after the ruined O but it was 3am and I felt it was best to sleep.
Anyway thanks to the community! Feeling good about my progress!
Are you sure that ejaculating does not hinder your progress with higher states of bliss? The term "semen retention" here is used incorrectly, you've just created your own practice which you should probably also create a new term, something like "climax avoidance" or "ruined orgasm practice" or "semen purging". Retaining your semen surely has an effect that is unlike draining yourself with ruined orgasm.
I’ve experimented with this a lot and here’s what I’ve found.
Total abstinence from wanking doesn’t have any increasing effect for me after 48 hours. I’ve done several sprints of 30+ days and some shorter ones, but each time my arousal reaches its highest stage at 48 hours and just stays there. I’ve also never encountered blue balls.
Edging techniques involving total avoidance of ejaculation just don’t work for me. They tend to leave me in a highly charged state that means I’m horny for sex as opposed sexually aroused. Before I started exploring prostate pleasure, I’d never have thought there was a distinction between these two states. Now, if I’m horny I can’t get the level of relaxation needed for good A-less. I need to be in the state where my sexual turn-ons are so beautiful to me that I just want them to surround me.
What I’ve found does work for me is slow, gentle, relaxed masturbation focusing only on the frenulum. A very light grinding motion using one finger with my awareness fixed on the pleasure coming from my prostate rather than what my penis is feeling. Often, this can produce dry a-less orgasms (providing I keep breathing and don’t succumb to the temptation to grind harder and faster) but if it doesn’t, it leads to ejaculation without pumping/squirting. There’s a short refractory period but I generally have my most pleasurable hands free A-less the day after ejaculating this way.
I'm at 1.5 or 2 weeks SR - don't remember. But last night i was stroking myself through underwear while reviewing some porn and sorta squirted some sort of liquid out of my cock - creamy liquid, didnt react like precum as it wasnt stringy when dabbing my finger in it and then slowly pulling it away, and when i smelled and tasted it it didnt seem like cum in the same sort of smell, but tasted salty.
Will use Helix trident again tonight.
So I worked a full day, came home and sharpened the lawnmower blade, changed the mower oil, the mower air filter, cleaned out the air box, and changed the spark plug. Went and got gas, then mowed the lawn. All while suffering from stomach cramps from bad indian food.
perfect formula for falling asleep during an Aneros session... but despite all those issues, I easily did another set of three ruined orgasms, and popped in the Progasm Jr (in retrospect, should have gone smaller - felt too full and had to end early)... but the prostate and JR we’re moving and squirming and giving me a host of good feelings and p waves.
so I don’t know what it’s called technically... I went about 21 days of true SR... and around day 25 started edging and having ROs.
i have been in an Aneros valley for over a year, ( on the journey for 16 mos) and today was a welcome step up in sensations, despite doing about everything “wrong” prep-wise.
This may hinder your progress or help... I don’t know, but it helped me find and remember the tickle / wiggle that has been elusive as of late. I read once the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a new result... well this is an attempt to do something different. I’ve read physical and mental arousal are key to be a n the mood - this did that for me today.
So I’m calling it “Arousal Training” as that was my original intent - traditional SR to the point around when your age group should ejaculate (see The Multi-orgasmic Man), and then arousal techniques to feel the prostate swell to feel the frenulum tickle, to feel the perineum pressure, so that when you insert the Aneros, or entice aless you’re very aroused... ( for some possibly too aroused) - but for me it was a nice experience. Your mileage will vary.
Hey,
@HereByAccident, glad to read you have all the fun and joy possible!
... so I don’t know what it’s called technically... I went about 21 days of true SR... and around day 25 started edging and having ROs. ... So I’m calling it “Arousal Training” as that was my original intent - traditional SR to the point around when your age group should ejaculate ... and then arousal techniques to feel ... you’re very aroused ... but for me it was a nice experience. Your mileage will vary.
However, I wouldn't call it
draining yourself with ruined orgasm
as Korkelz did, when you only release some drops and some pressure. After all you still hold back semen because you don't allow yourself a full release.
Whatever, it made your day and you even got your lawn mowed. 😉 And now there are only about two weeks left to catch up with me, :p.
Best vibes to you
Mart
Alright that's all fine. I will say that I would not even want to waste a drop of semen, not because I'm a purist, but because that my mode of sexuality calls for, I like it that way.
Double post sorry. I will say this: my goal with saving every drop is to cause "cum overload" so my body ejaculates spontsneously. I'm proud to say it happened for the first time a few days ago, not just from semen retention but I've been doing a ton of work on my sexuality/sexual energy like alll the rest of you Aneros users. It was an amazing experience, been trying to figure out how to make it happen for years. It wasn't a full blown ejaculation, just a cum drain of excess semen.