From MGX, Maximus to 8-inch HFO Mastery: How to Bridge the gap between solo flow and a new female partner?

Hey @FlowArchitect I have many thoughts about your post and will wait on some women to reply here first. I have things to say for sure! I'll make sure I come back to this in a week or so. (There aren't a lot of ladies here at all anymore, sadly, we all wish there were.)

Thanks for the post, @techpump. I appreciate you stepping back to give the floor to the women first. It’s true that their voices are often quiet here, yet they are the ones who hold the mirror to the 'bridge' I’m trying to build.

I’m looking forward to your veteran perspective, but in the meantime, I want to invite the women here to share their deeper impressions through a few specific questions:

• How does it affect your connection to see a man 'priming' the instrument with the exact same raw devotion and oral passion you recognize from when he is focused on your own pleasure?

• In what way does witnessing that familiar intensity—applied to his own journey toward an HFO—change the way you perceive the 'hardware' involved?

• What happens to your own sense of desire when you see that his capacity for pleasure is just as deep, uninhibited, and surrendered as the pleasure he gives to you?

• How does this level of transparency regarding his collection and his 'studio sessions' influence the trust and the 'glass box' honesty within the relationship?

• To what extent does seeing a man in a state of total, unmasked HFO-flow—driven by biological peak performance rather than a fetish-role—impact your view of his masculinity?

I am curious to understand what makes the difference between this feeling like an alienating 'solo dive' versus a powerful invitation into a shared, peak-performance reality.

I’ll be waiting for your thoughts, techpump, and hopefully some brave insights from the ladies.

@FlowArchitect hey it has been long enough, no replies here from anyone, so I'm diving in! 

First, I believe what you are calling "priming" the instrument is giving oral to a dildo...am I right on that? Not an Aneros toy, but a dildo. I get this because I do it sometimes myself. And yes, it can trigger an orgasm! And double yes, it can trigger an orgasm in my wife, a hands-free stimulation-free orgasm inside her, while she's wearing a cock to use on me!! So I totally get this and approve 😉

My experiences giving head to realistic dual density silicone dildos started on a whim and curiosity surrounding my wife's own ability to deepthroat my cock. I'm not the biggest in the world, but stand close to 8" and I could not understand how she was able to take nearly all of me down her throat. She went from just the head and maybe 1/2" past it with massive gag reflex triggering to just saying "fuck it" one day and suddenly could put half of me in her mouth and a bit down her throat. And then a few months later, she was only an inch away from full on complete swallowing me. 

I was literally in heaven. I had never imagined anything like this happening during sex, and I never imagined the feelings and stimulation to really be as good as I heard it would be. Sometimes she did it so good it was better than her vagina. Hard to believe, but there was a flow-state she'd enter when she was pushing 10+ minutes of deepthroating me that also put me in a flow-state of pleasure. Utmost, delirious pleasure. After about 7 years of getting deepthroat from her over and over, sometimes multiple times a day (she'd grab me while walking by her, us both fully clothed, tear my pants down, and suck me from soft to rock hard all the way down her throat, do it for just a minute, give it a kiss on the tip, say "I love it so much" and that was it for a while until the urge struck to have me down her throat yet again), I was so completely lost in the feeling that I imagined how amazing it would be to be able to do this to another man. Not that I had gay or bi fantasies of making out with a man, but a philosophical wonderment on the act itself. Like a "wow, this talent is so amazing, it has to be amazing to the person doing it to the cock, not just amazing to the person with the cock." She always said it was amazing to feel, and sometimes could make herself cum simply from having me down her throat. She'd also get extremely wet from doing it to me and would not want to have sex until she had me down her throat for a certain amount of time; only then did she be in a frenzy that demanded I thrust it into her. 

I had become prostate orgasmic in 2014, 10 years after first getting Aneros toys in 2004. They only made like 3 toys back then and I got them all. My wife, through a session one night, helped me figure out how to have a prostate orgasm, and that first one was still one of the very best moments of my sexual life. Once orgasmic, I started to look at the dildos I used to pound my ass with and ride for sometimes hours on end as something different. Could I have an orgasm from a dildo? My first prostate orgasm, that I could recognize as such, came from a 1" diameter glass g-spot wand I got for my wife but she never really used it. I really didn't either, but thought it would be fun for her to use it on me that special night of my prostatic awakening. So, I started to use it more on myself and could milk my prostate and it was great. But it didn't make me orgasm on my own, Aneros toys did, but not this wand. Nor other dildos I had. 

So I got two cheap horrible realistic dildos in 2015. I thought maybe the shape and size of them could bring me to orgasm. They didn't. But one day, I had them suctioned to my desk and I started to wonder and fantasize about my wife's deepthroating talents and wondered "could I swallow these dildos?" One was as long as me but tapered at the top, the other a little shorter than me but a little girthier. I just went for it and instantly, with no resistance at all, got the whole tapered long dildo all the way down my throat, all the way to the base, my lips at the suction cup. I came off it and choked a little, coughed, eyes watering. I said "what the fuck how did I do that?!?!" And then I did it again, and I kept doing it and I got instantly hard in my shorts. My prostate was pulsating, my anus was puckering, there was a powerful current running from my throat down to my genitals. I tried the bigger one and could get that one down but my untainted throat was starting to get raw after these wonderful and puzzling couple minutes of deepthroat action.

As the years passed I started to get more realistic, better quality dildos to ride. I became heavily orgasmic from riding dildos, using them on myself through hand-driven thrusting to orgasm, and when my wife pegged me. She really got into pegging me for a while, it was very fun for her. I felt so embarrassed and a bit shameful when I told her "watch what I can do" and through sweat and fear, as she stood over me as I knelt at her feet, I took the cock she was sporting into my mouth and swallowed it all the way to the harness panties. She said "OMG you're just as good as I am at that!! Amazing!" And she started to get really dirty, words I've never imagined came out of her like:

"Suck my cock, swallow me whole. Do you like to suck my cock? Suck the cock I'm going to fuck you with, get it ready for me to use on you."

I can't tell you how hard this all made me. She was really into getting her hips to move right and really into perfecting her fucking skills. The excitement of it all was fever pitch by the time she took the harness of, got me rock hard, and then let me penetrate her. OMG some of the best pussy she's ever presented to me was after pegging me. It was a thrill for her to sport a cock and take advantage of my ass because she knew how orgasmic my ass and prostate were, and she could not get enough of my orgasms. She still loves it 10 year later. We don't do pegging like we used to, maybe only once or twice a year at best now (health and age changes bring menopause and HRT is helping but we're still like 75% less sex a week than we used to do, which was every single day of the week for years and years). But she got so into me sucking "her cock" that her pussy would quiver and then cum from no stimulation at all. 

She said she came from it because she knows how great it is to suck my cock, so she would kind of get inside the dildo and imagine how good it feels for me when she sucks me, and what it feels like in her throat, and transplant those memories and feelings into what I was doing to her. Over the edge she went! The ultimate was when we made clones of my own cock, and then she could wear me and make me suck myself. This was probably the kinkiest, most sexy shit we'd ever done. She'd say "suck my cock, suck your cock, I'm going to fuck you with your own cock and make you orgasm from yourself" and it was a mind fuck of epic proportions!! Just completely nuts. Later in solo sessions, I would ride a clone of myself, suck a clone of myself, and stroke my real erection all at the same time and it was so incredibly wild. Hard to comprehend all of it at once and when I did it was like super-reality slapping me in the brain.

I think that some women absolutely love when men give head to dildos, whether they are going to get them in their ass or just suck them as playtime fantasy stuff. I don't think it has to relate to BDSM or sissy-training or cuckolding at all. My own sex life with my wife is proof that none of those things can have anything to do with the act of a man, a husband, sucking a dildo and then a woman, his wife, fucking him with that dildo so he can have hands-free prostate orgasms. 

I don't want to make out with a man or do anything with a man. I don't like the thought it does nothing to me erotically or sexually at all. I can't imagine even holding hands with a man. Nope it is not something I like to think about at all. Just as "butt stuff" is not gay or means a man is bi, I don't think sucking a dildo is gay or bi either. It is just fun sex play and it feels good and it's all just sex for sex's sake. Gay is romance to me, a falling for and desiring of a man, and making love to a man. But a toy in a man's ass to achieve an orgasm? That just sounds like "a guy wants to have an orgasm" to me, nothing sexual orientation related at all.

So OP your questions about how women perceive men who "prime" the "instrument" are sound because today, mainly because of porn, we see that kind of sex act as a sissy or BDSM, subjugation, "put under heel", even cuckolding kind of kink play and fantasy play. My wife doesn't make me suck her dildo she's wearing to put me under her heel or make me feel like a woman or take some kind of masculine power away from me (although she's said it does make her feel powerful and kind of "like a man" wearing one and fucking me with it, the hip movement she says is "a bit more carnal" and lets her understand and experience kind of what a man experiences). She likes it because it is super fun and kind of a "why not do it?" kind of sex play that is stupid to avoid. We've had some fun 69 play doing this and she cums several times with her pussy completely covered: she's having an orgasm with me down her throat knowing "she's" down my throat, and I'm having a prostate-centered dry orgasm down her throat with "her" down my throat. 

To us it's all about pushing the boundaries of sexual stimulation. I am an "orgasm chaser" which means if there's something that can make me cum/orgasm in a way I've never felt before, I'm going to try it. That's why my realistic dildo collection has soared into the almost 20 count number now: all these cocks make me have different kinds of orgasms. 

I don't know if any of this answers your questions or resonates with you, but these are my real life happenings and both my take and how my wife has told me she responds and feels about it all.

@techpump I love my two dildoes - one is 7”x1.5” and the other is 11.5”x1.5”. Both are soft gel material with suction cups and have realistic features. I mount the suction cups on the footboard of a bed and slowly back onto them - first the shorter one and then onto the longer one. They are both long enough so when fully inserted the head stimulates the inner sphincter and sends me into O land. The ridges by themselves provide awesome stimulation to my anus and also produce long pleasurable Os. Haven’t tried the deep throat action though and most likely will not as I’m not into that! I would definitely recommend the soft gel material as it glides in easily and feels awesome especially when doing contractions!

@fred27 Oh yes I know that kind of material well and have a few dildos of that make. I'm sold on the dual density silicone dildos those are my go to. Mainly because the thickness of the outer, softer silicone differs between models. Sometimes it is thicker, sometimes thinner, sometimes the inner core is round/cylindrical, sometimes it is elliptical. Some have a more solid inner core, others are not as solid. And some have the inner core going into the glans of the realistic glans and some don't go up into it at all. With so much variation it is fun! And, all the realistic veins and ridges, the flare of the glans corona, it all makes me have different kinds of orgasms at different depths inside me. What I really love is when the outer material is squishy and thick, and when I orgasm my anus contracts and squeezes the outer shell and then the outer shell springs back into shape and my anus has to squeeze hard against it during my orgasm. Sometimes that triggers a second, instant orgasm that is almost all anal orgasm!!! Truly amazing stuff!

Have you tried any dual density silicone dildos? There are many cheap on Amazon nowadays and I usually order a new one every few months just to try new stuff, almost all of them are $30 or less.

Another amazing session today! Started out with my MGX Syn Trident and just relaxing. After a short few minutes started feeling minor movement as the head was playing with my prostate. I then decided to use my soft gel dildo and felt intense stimulation on my prostate and anus as I slowly moved back and forth with it mounted on the footboard. After a long pleasant series of Os I went back to my MGX and got out my handheld vibrator to pursue simultaneous TO and prostate Os - if you haven’t tried this, you’re missing out on the most euphoric pleasure to be experienced! As the TO was approaching, my MGX was suddenly pulled inside hard with the p and k tabs working their magic! As the TO climaxed in a big spurt, my prostate responded with a mutual super O! The best of both worlds with a huge release of pleasurable satisfaction!😀

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Another amazing session today! Started out with my MGX Syn Trident and just relaxing. After a short few minutes started feeling minor movement as the head was playing with my prostate. I then decided to use my soft gel dildo and felt intense stimulation on my prostate and anus as I slowly moved back and forth with it mounted on the footboard. After a long pleasant series of Os I went back to my MGX and got out my handheld vibrator to pursue simultaneous TO and prostate Os - if you haven’t tried this, you’re missing out on the most euphoric pleasure to be experienced! As the TO was approaching, my MGX was suddenly pulled inside hard with the p and k tabs working their magic! As the TO climaxed in a big spurt, my prostate responded with a mutual super O! The best of both worlds with a huge release of pleasurable satisfaction!😀

Nice! Oh yes I end every session with a Super T!! I work up a nice erection slowly with the toy I choose for the Super T (usually the blue Maximus Syn Trident that unfortunately has been discontinued) or a toy that really felt good earlier in my session in me for the big finish. When the toy moves a lot on its own from so much penis stimulation I'll quit touching it and let the toy do its thing, and then grab hold and keep at it to make the toy move even more. I use a fleshlight to get further into it, fucking my cock hard and fast and the toy goes wild and my anus clamps down super hard, and then I pull the toy off and pause, let the toy do what it wants to do, sometimes use my other hand to go light and tease my cock a little more, slowly and gently, and then back to slamming the fleshlight down on myself and when PONR is right there I go wild on my cock and pull the fleshlight off me and cum all over myself. Usually shooting my neck and all over my chest! It is such a fulfilling, complete, fully draining ejaculation and orgasm. Sometimes the toy is impossible to pull out afterwards I have to wait sometimes 2 minutes before my anus decides it can relax. And the aftershocks as my orgasm dies away make the toy milk every last drop out of me. Ahhhhhhh damn I want that feeling again soon! Last session was Monday, so I'm already planning when I'll get going with a session again next week 🙂

I should try a vibrator on my penis though, that sounds cool! Different too as I don't usually use vibes on my penis. I have some toys, though, that do have some vibration in them and while I don't like them as much because they can deaden the sensations and nerves, with an Aneros in me, it could be incredible...

@techpump have also found that vibes on anal toys tend to numb the area and distract from prostate pleasure! However that being said, i frequently use a handheld drug store massager with a large flat rubber disc attachment to achieve a TO simultaneously with a prostate O. This can be done whether you’re hard or flaccid and the results are extremely euphoric! The vibrator intensity is strong enough that it is felt in the perenium and prostate and adds to the explosive conclusion!😀