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Is it really just lay flat and do nothing at all? Because I end up falling asleep long before I feel anything.


   
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I'm brand new here and my Helix will be arriving in a few days. So, I have no experience to share BUT I've read a lot and I have an idea re what "do nothing" means.

I believe that "do nothing" means that you are relaxed and you are attentive to sensations in your body. What I've read is that a prostate massager will amplify what you're already feeling. So, the more you can feel your body's sensations, the more you can feel them become bigger.


   
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I used to see do nothing in that manner. I recently started adding some pelvic rocking into my routine. Calm and gradual. This and trying to keep the muscles relaxed in my peri area as i feel the massager rubbing against sweet spots. It is difficult to balance. But has been fruitful. Laying still and trancing out to sensation may feel like sleep at times. Its ok if it happens. I took a page from barbara carrellas and her energy orgasm handout and used that in conjunction with aneros. Has given me great whole body orgasm results.


   
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@kaygo Brought to you by Aneros WIKI: "do nothing technique The idea is to dispense with thinking about holding contractions, controlling your breathing, conscious relaxing, or anything else for that matter, in favor of just lying there and letting the pleasure and Aneros do their thing."

For me, the "do nothing" technique is just a means to emphasize the involuntary nature of the Aneros response. As you relax completely and dispense with your own contractions, you let the Aneros begin to make contact in and around your prostate and you should feel the gentle, stimulating sensations building-up. As the session progresses, those sensations may grow into larger ones. Eventually, you may be "coerced" to contract even more by what you are feeling. Where the session goes from there is partly within your control through your own contractions, but depending on your level of detachment, it is an automatic response to the Aneros.

IMHO, the "do nothing" approach to Aneros is sound advice and lets you appreciate all the subtle nuances the Aneros has in store for you!


   
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For me, the "do nothing" technique is just a means to emphasize the involuntary nature of the Aneros response. As you relax completely and dispense with your own contractions...

I recently started an approach whereby I ride the pleasure wave(s) for as long as possible, when i feel my body is about to involuntarily contract (both pc and anal), i fight the urge. I found if I let the contractions happen, it stops me from going further. This approach I think just about got me to my first orgasm - I got super hot, and had a strange sensation coming over my whole body (rolling up it) that was different that the pleasure wave. My heart was racing, I had one massive contraction, and then it ended.

When we talk about do nothing, does that mean giving into the initial involuntaries or does it mean staying so relaxed that the prostate flutters and they pass by while you ride the next p-wave? I haven't seen this discussed in this level of detail elsewhere.

Thanks for the input!


   
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@Anerospore Good point! Of course, we are all different in our response to Aneros. I wouldn't want to generalize, but I would say that in my own case, I try to "do-nothing" for as long as possible. But there is a point in which I just can't hold-back any longer (sort of like holding back an ejaculation at the PONR. You just can't!) At that point, it is up to me where I want the session to go.

I also think it is important to know when to end a session. Most of my sessions now are rather short (30 minutes or less). But in that short time, I achieve what I set-out to accomplish: usually a prostate milking. My sessions end with me feeling more relaxed and, for the time being, satisfied.


   
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Is it really just lay flat?

@kaygo, if just laying flat doesn't work for you, you perhaps may want to try my favorite position - lying on my right side, left leg tucked up and left arm bend - both in right angles (body - upper arm/leg - lower arm/leg), right leg stretched out and right arm along your body, giving your Aneros and your pelvic muscles and even your member some more space.

Is it really do nothing at all? Because I end up falling asleep long before I feel anything.

Before you get bored and indeed fall asleep I'd suggest to stimulate your prostate with some few, short and slight contractions of your pelvic muscles. After such a contraction I'd always first wait for involuntaries as a response to this teasing. Perhaps a dumb feeling down where you would locate your prostate might already lead you where now your focus should be. Do nothing now means to wait without voluntary movements but eagerly try to become aware of every little change of sensation at your base chakra and perhaps to experience your first p-wave sent out as a warm shower of energy throughout your body.

If you really try to sense every feeling everywhere in your whole body, equal how subtle, you surely will be too busy to fall asleep again.

Good vibes and progresses, Mart


   
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@kaygo Great topic and I love the discussion. The only thing i’ll add is that sometimes falling asleep with the Aneros inserted isn’t all bad. Last winter I was still in search of the prostate orgasm and having regular sessions trying to “make” it happen. I drifted off to sleep one morning with my Helix Syn inserted only to be jolted awake by my very first prostate orgasm. I still vividly remember opening my eyes, tensing up and inhaling deeply as I experienced unexplainable feelings I never had before and it truly came to me by doing nothing!! Good luck and keep us posted on your progress!!


   
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@kaygo Brought to you by Aneros WIKI: "do nothing technique The idea is to dispense with thinking about holding contractions, controlling your breathing, conscious relaxing, or anything else for that matter, in favor of just lying there and letting the pleasure and Aneros do their thing."

For me, the "do nothing" technique is just a means to emphasize the involuntary nature of the Aneros response. As you relax completely and dispense with your own contractions, you let the Aneros begin to make contact in and around your prostate and you should feel the gentle, stimulating sensations building-up. As the session progresses, those sensations may grow into larger ones. Eventually, you may be "coerced" to contract even more by what you are feeling. Where the session goes from there is partly within your control through your own contractions, but depending on your level of detachment, it is an automatic response to the Aneros.

IMHO, the "do nothing" approach to Aneros is sound advice and lets you appreciate all the subtle nuances the Aneros has in store for you!

I mean, that's just it. Whether I actively contract or just lay there and let my mind wander until I drift off, I don't feel anything. Nothing 'automatic' happens, the only sensation I feel is from either the P or K tabs pressing too hard on their respective spots. There's nothing there, otherwise. I've slept with mine in for several nights, never been woken up by anything happening.


   
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@kaygo Okay, let's back up a little bit. What model(s) Aneros are you using? What lube? What is your frequency of sessions? Are you practicing SR?


   
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I think the 'do nothing' approach means that you are at peace with what is going on. As opposed to worrying about where you want it to go or how it was the other day. It applies as much to the mental aspect as the physical to me.

It means that I try not to force things too much. So I can still do contractions, play with my nipples, watch porn, hypnosis; whatever I want really. Laying flat and trying not to move is not required unless I feel like it.

Learning to let go and 'do nothing', or stop forcing things, takes practice but I think its necessary to get things to build up. Trying to do or think too much can kill sensations or take over the more subtle.

Just like I don't have lie perfectly still, my mind also doesn't have to be perfectly blank; I just try not to linger too much in the analytical detective part of the brain. It's not a puzzle that needs solving. I try to be engaged with what I feel at the moment, not if it's going to lead to an orgasm or not. I try to observe, not judge.

@Anerospore Things ending after the contraction might not be the fault of the contraction, I don't know. What goes up often has to come down though. There can be a bit of a refractory period where things calm down before they can go back up again. You can also fall just a little bit back down and then even further up. Or there might be no falling at all where you are smooth sailing. I like to think that I'm on an airbed on the ocean. It's not up to me if it's storming or not or how big the waves are.

What I do with big contractions, if they happen, is to just go with it. It often feels nice. Fighting for stuff not to happen is interesting and can be useful but technically you are still doing something. Even if you're really trying not do anything at all you're still doing just that though. So... Yeah.


   
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Great post, @Mitaru!


   
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@kaygo Okay, let's back up a little bit. What model(s) Aneros are you using? What lube? What is your frequency of sessions? Are you practicing SR?

Vice, Progasm, MGXT; Oil based (mix of coconut and other stuff); i try once every other day, maybe three times a week; I've been doing SR for months now, not sure it makes any difference. I don't feel any better for it, that's for sure. It's just another layer of frustration.


   
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I've been doing SR for months now, not sure it makes any difference.

Newbie here. What is SR?


   
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Ah, semen retention! Got it.


   
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Newbie here. What is SR?

Hi @sfman , SR is the abbreviation for semen retention, an abstinence from ejaculation for achieving a higher level of arousal by avoiding the phase of recovery after draining your fluids due to your hormone balance. Cheers, Mart

Okay, you had already got it. Before giving answers I should turn pages. 😉


   
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@kaygo, to me it first wasn't easy to exactly locate my prostate when beginning my journey. Perhaps you should consider consulting a doctor to get profound advice. Lately I saw a video about the first time prostate exam of two younger guys, one exam lasting only twenty seconds (9'40"-10'00") but giving the guy a lot of insights and the sureness to be in good health, @9'47'': "The end of my fingers, that's your prostate"/"Your prostate is clean."/"No abnormalities.", @10'55": "The end right here, that's the prostate."
Perhaps such an exam could help you too with your prostate stimulation.
Best wishes, Mart


   
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@kaygo When I started out with the aneros I too found I had no pleasurable sensations. I persevered for a good year with one or two sessions a month, but progress was slow. The advice on the forum kept me motivated, but my breakthrough came when I'd stopped using the aneros and stumbled upon aless.

It was during a meditation session that I noticed a throb of pleasure in the area of my prostate. After a few days of exploring that feeling during meditation I started to notice that it wasn't just my prostate that had a lot of sensitivity but also my perineum and anus - pretty much my entire back passage was alive with pleasure if I choose to focus on that. A week later I managed to achieve an orgasm unlike anything I'd previously felt. Unfortunately since then I haven't been able to replicate that feeling, but I've come to the conclusion that to achieve a prostate orgasm you have to train your brain to experience the sensations. You could spend all day with an aneros inside you, but if you're not exercising the neurons that that can sense those feelings you'll make little progress - in my opinion. With that in mind I found this post an excellent guide on how to get your brain into a state that will allow it to change - relax relax RELAX. In fact just today, I was trying to focus feeling by contracting muscles, but it was only when I took deep breaths and decided to just see what happens that pleasure appeared.

I hope this all makes sense. All the advice on the wiki and this forum implies that the path to enjoyment is via changing your brain, but I wish it was made more clear from the start that this is the key. Good luck and don't give up!


   
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Making anything clear about this subject is like trying to explain what music is to an alien just by words. I think the wiki, user experiences and the more esoteric ways of putting it, is as good as it gets. If anything this forum is way more useful than you'd think it would be.
Maybe try to follow users that click with your own way of thinking. Not everything is going to make sense or work; maybe it will later? Said to no one in particular.


   
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I’m eight months in. I started this with a fantastic couple of sessions in which I experienced belly-orgasms but then fell into the usual frustrating journey. (Apart from an a-less Super-O that lasted for minutes on end that occurred in the middle of the night during an episode of sleep paralysis - most beautiful and mind blowing thing I’ve experienced. There are just no words that would do justice to how it felt)

Apart from that, I’m only recently feeling like I’m getting anywhere and here are a few things that I think have made a difference.

1. I noticed that gentler stimulation produced better results so I bought a set of Peridise massagers. They’re much smaller but seem to be delivering much more noticeable results that are getting better with each session. I’m going to use them until it plateaus then switch back to my Helix Syn.

2. Less is more. While noticing what’s going on down there, I now actively focus on relaxing the muscles and trying NOT to forcefully contract - effectively meaning the only movement is what’s happening naturally. This seems to build up sensations more quickly.

3. I’ve experimented with semen retention and the jury is still out for me. I had a sudden surge in progress after spending a few days reading about how to intensify the sensations of traditional masturbation. I had some absolutely amazing wanking sessions and, after a day or two, really noticed my prostate vying for my attention again. When trying SR I seem to go through peaks and troughs - the troughs leaving me feeling flat and unable to generate any sort of horniness even when thinking of my kinkiest fantasies.

4. I’ve completely lost any sort of focus on trying for hands free orgasms. I now just look forward to relaxing and experiencing some beautiful sensations.

5. It’s become very clear to me that this is a hugely individual and unique thing. While much of the advice on this forum has helped, there’s never going to any method or guide that will work. What some people say is counter-productive has worked for me. I’ve learned to listen to what my own body is telling me and try things I think it wants.


   
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I know where my prostate is. It just doesn't respond.


   
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Doing nothing can be very easily explained.
It is just feeling the textures of your sensations in your prostate with your attention,while keeping the rest of your body very relaxed,especially the face and the jaw,that people tense up even when they think they're relaxed.If you spend enough time with your attention into your prostate you will be able to feel more of the internal landscape of the prostate until "nothing" sensation begin to transform into "something" sensations...and it ends by feeling pleasurable waves after some time and finally a type of prostate orgasm.
How you can develop it as fast as possible? I outlined how in two of my posts.Read and reread them until you internalize what I'm trying to communicate. https://community.aneros.com/community/general-discussion/members-that-achieved-aneroless-dry-os-and-sup-os-without-ever-owning-an-aneros?p=152973#post152973


   
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I don't think you're listening....


   
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Members here already gave you a lot of advice,the one that's not listening is the one who doesn't have results.apply what you get as recommendations properly,after that only come to receive more advice once you have some feedback from your practice...otherwise you're just simulating ideas in your mind not doing the actual work, and to get actual results doesn't involve the mind almost at all.Otherwise orgasms could be produced by your thinking alone,and they can't,because orgasms are the result of correctly feeling your sensations and being with them sensorially and not thinking about them and commenting on them in your head.


   
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Anyone try walking with the Aneros inserted?


   
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Is it really just lay flat and do nothing at all? Because I end up falling asleep long before I feel anything.

@Kaygo , almost exactly six years ago I authored the thread ->
"Do Nothing" What does that mean?
. Perhaps that will better explain things for you.
Good Vibes to You !


   
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IMHO, the term "do nothing" is somewhat a misnomer, perhaps it should be "do little" because you are definitely doing "something", more than "nothing".

Wisdom in a nutshell, thanks, Dr. Doo_little! 🙂


   
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