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Hi guys,Last session I have a accidental strong wave of sensations when I was only hold aneros here,no breathing-contraction and others.
I feel like the world shaked slightly 3 or more times,and further have clouded vision.
But can not repeat the feeling again,and still do not have rolling (autofucking),everytime I was lying on bad and tried to let breath move my aneros and have sensations,but always hard to build and flow away very quickly,is it still be force pleasure?and are my feelings correct..and close to orgasm?



   
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I am about the same place - some light to medium quivers - feeling like I'm getting there and can not cross over. I switched to coconut oil instead of a lube and its much better but I seem to lock in the Aneros and have to use the hand to unlock it and get it to slight again.



   
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@ScarletV
What you had was good. That is definitely on track.
Trying to repeat it was wrong. To repeat means to control. You can't and should not try to control.
Are you "close to orgasm" ? Is both a wrong and useless question.
In my terminology you were already in orgasm (you'd call it early phase). Orgasm defined as a conclusion is a bad goal, it doesn't matter in one's aneros experience and it can even make it harder for you to embrace and enjoy the experience; you are better of ignoring it. Orgasm defined as a process, you get in so early it is not even possible to "get close" to it, you either are "in" orgasm process or "out" of orgasm process. There is nothing in between. Only different type of orgasms.

Very relaxed pleasure should be your enjoyment. Beware of goals. Even more "getting close" to goals. That would be totally missing on the journey.



   
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I am about the same place - some light to medium quivers - feeling like I'm getting there and can not cross over. I switched to coconut oil instead of a lube and its much better but I seem to lock in the Aneros and have to use the hand to unlock it and get it to slight again.

"Crossing over" is not how it works... Which is why you can't... And won't, whatever you do.

You identified yourself one of your blocades : as pleasure rises, you let your body panic and lock on the aneros. You need to learn to identify the early signs of this locking in and relax before it becomes a strong hold. The goal is to never hold or push. It's not easy. It takes attention to the slightest tensions, prolonged focus, will power and overcoming your fears.



   
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@Canacan I have read your comments with interest. I have always felt certainly that I am either 'in an orgasm' or 'not in an orgasm' as two very distinct states, and felt a very definite point of crossing over into orgasm when it feels as if energy and pleasure is being released rather than being put in, a bit like hitting a resonant frequency and keeping it 'ringing'. It gives a resolution to the pleasure that has been building and does seem like a very distinct state.

There are certainly levels of orgasm in that once I am in an orgasm I often feel another orgasm building within it, and depending on how much I am 'giving in' these will either become a further orgasmic event or not.

Maybe I do have the mindset of this all wrong. I would be interested to learn what you mean by 'locking in' as I think I know what you are talking about, something does seem to take hold and block progression to orgasm sometimes, relaxation does not settle that problem, and would appreciate your further thoughts on that.



   
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when the aneros locks up I just apply more lube. use a water base gel like equate instead of watery type I don't trust oils since the colon is not made to handle them even if us coconut .
and like every one says you are thinking it too hard. the whole point is to enjoy the ride not to climax it.
like a song is ment to be listened throughly nit just the end of it.



   
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the whole point is to enjoy the ride not to climax it.
like a song is ment to be listened throughly nit just the end of it.

Quoted for truth.



   
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I'm wondering if locking in is one of my problems. I feel like I contract my anus into the pleasure as it comes. Is it better to leave the anus relaxed? Sort of like the feeling when you sit on the toilet about to take a dump? Not pushing, but just relaxed?



   
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@aneros_user120711 That is roughly the idea, yes.
It can be pretty tough to do it. But the harder it is, the more rewarded you'll be.



   
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@aneros_user120711 That is roughly the idea, yes.
It can be pretty tough to do it. But the harder it is, the more rewarded you'll be.

That seems to make sense. I've tried something like that before and it is challenging. It gives me a sensation that kind of hard to describe. Almost like torture, but not it a painful way. It almost feels like the sensation when someone tickles you. It doesn't hurt but it makes want to wiggle around. My next session is going to be devoted to keeping my anus relaxed. Just doing it sitting here, as soon as I relax it the immediate reaction is for my anus to pucker back up.



   
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That seems to make sense. I've tried something like that before and it is challenging. It gives me a sensation that kind of hard to describe. Almost like torture, but not it a painful way. It almost feels like the sensation when someone tickles you. It doesn't hurt but it makes want to wiggle around. My next session is going to be devoted to keeping my anus relaxed. Just doing it sitting here, as soon as I relax it the immediate reaction is for my anus to pucker back up.

Your comparaison with tickling proves you got the point. Good luck and enjoy !



   
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I enjoy too much the sensation of trying to grasp the narrowest part of the progasm like a baby knawing on a pacifier that keeps trying to escape from its mouth



   
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Still not getting this. I don't use an aneros (always Aless) so nothing to lock onto, but still feel locked sometimes and even completely relaxing it stays like that. I have tried complete relaxation and the only time I ever actually had an orgasm totally relaxed, because they just won't go anywhere for me like that usually, it was one of the most dull events ever.Never mind. We are all different I suppose. However, it does sound like a good theory, I wish someone could explain it to me better, I'm probably just doing it all wrong.



   
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It's kind of hard to put in words the sensation. The best description I can think of is your anus puckering up. You need to keep your butt hole relaxed and use the muscles higher up. I've been playing with it for a little bit, although not too intensely because I can't right now. I was able to get that worm like feeling going on my anus by just attempting it for a minute. It's a weird feeling and hard to describe, but I think this has real potential. The best analogy I could think of was my butt hole being tickled. It feels like it makes that whole area unstable and I believe I read that is what you want. I'll see how it goes tonight.



   
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Still not getting this. I don't use an aneros (always Aless) so nothing to lock onto, but still feel locked sometimes and even completely relaxing it stays like that.

With better attention to your body you should realise "complete relaxation" doesn't even exist. And the more you relax the more you feel the tiniest tensions which makes you more and more aware how far from total relaxation you are. The fact you don't realise that, hints at you probably not relaxing much.

Aless or not, your anys is still able to lock onto itself. The aneros is actually of some help in preventing this as it gives you more awareness of the smallest building tensions.



   
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It's kind of hard to put in words the sensation. The best description I can think of is your anus puckering up. You need to keep your butt hole relaxed and use the muscles higher up. I've been playing with it for a little bit, although not too intensely because I can't right now. I was able to get that worm like feeling going on my anus by just attempting it for a minute. It's a weird feeling and hard to describe, but I think this has real potential. The best analogy I could think of was my butt hole being tickled. It feels like it makes that whole area unstable and I believe I read that is what you want. I'll see how it goes tonight.

Not only are you on the right track, most of what you just wrote is spot on and my guess would also be you already experienced a lesser anal orgasm (okeasure with wormlike feeling).

Keep it going. You are doing great.



   
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@Canacan Thanks, I feel like I'm making progress but not as fast I would like. I tried it last night, but couldn't really get the worm like feeling back. Do you try to sustain keeping your anus relaxed, or do you go with the immediate involuntary contraction that follows and repeat. I find it nearly impossible to sustain that relaxation because of the involuntary contraction that follows. I did have some heavy buzzing in my feet and legs and well as some kind of energy I could move back and forth between my feet, legs, and torso.



   
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@Canacan Thanks, I feel like I'm making progress but not as fast I would like. I tried it last night, but couldn't really get the worm like feeling back. Do you try to sustain keeping your anus relaxed, or do you go with the immediate involuntary contraction that follows and repeat. I find it nearly impossible to sustain that relaxation because of the involuntary contraction that follows. I did have some heavy buzzing in my feet and legs and well as some kind of energy I could move back and forth between my feet, legs, and torso.

One never progresses as fast as one wants... And it is a good thing.

Things that happened once are not meant to be repeated. Every time is different. Keep an open mind.



   
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Yeah I'm realizing each session is going to be different now. I guess somethings I like better than others during my session. I'm trying to keep an open mind. In fact last night I tried pretending like I didn't know what an orgasm was. I think I may have a touch of ADD so my mind tends to wonder and I have trouble concentrating sometimes.

What about keeping the anus relaxed? Is the goal here to keep it relaxed continuously, or can you go with the involuntaries and then relax the anus again once it has passed?



   
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@aneros_user120711
I am sorry, it's hard to give you a definite answer to that without being cryptic.

The words "keep" and "continuously" seem out of place here. Keeping means control. Continuity is impossible... And, well, there are no rules. So everything is possible. But the more you are able to relax in tough situations the more powerful you get (within powerlessness).

Don't confuse excuses with insight... Even if they sound the very same.

Letting go goes many different ways. If you are lost in your research, try the emotional angle.



   
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@Canacan I'm feeling actually rather frustrated tonight and yes I am stressed beyond belief with work and children so I'm not relaxed at all.

I feel that you know something I don't and I'm struggling to work out what it is, and I want to know.
I have read back through your posts trying to work out what your secret is and I cannot understand how you keep telling people that there is no such thing as a distinct orgasm and even just pleasant feelings can be an orgasm, and you tell people not to look for an orgasm and be totally satisfied with anything else. Unless I am different to everyone else there is certainly a very distinct orgasm state!! It's what I do this for, like having sex is fun but unsatisfying without cumming (I'm sure you will disagree, but you must understand my point). And there is a point at which you cross over into orgasm, maybe not very easy to identify the exact moment, but there is. I can't believe that the incredible states of pleasure people describe on here, and I have had a few times, are just a slightly better version of getting a tingling in the prostate. I am wanting you to tell me I have this all wrong, re-define everything I have experienced so far and then I will be on the path to eternal bliss.

You also say there is no such thing as total relaxation, which is probably true, but it doesn't help explain how relaxation helps the orgasm process.

I'm concentrating on the mechanics here. I'm on a bit of a spiritual journey, as far as that goes I am totally giving in and allowing it to happen with good results. There is certainly an element of that in the 'aneros journey' but in terms of the mechanics of getting a decent orgasm I find what you are saying very cryptic.

If you can explain one thing I would be eternally grateful and that is how to relax during the build up to orgasm without losing the pleasure. I need some tension somewhere to keep it going.

I'm going to go and meditate now and get some energy flowing I think my C6/7 need some work.....

Thanks 🙂



   
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Yeah I understand it can be difficult since everyone kind of advances in their own way and discovers new things in their own personal way. I keep thinking about the feeling I have after a good night sleep where I don't have any stress or anywhere to be. Sometimes I will just lay there and kind of stretch and lay around. It feels so good while I'm laying there all warm, calm, and at ease. I think that would probably be the ideal mental state for me to be in when I start a session. Just not a care in the world.

Sometimes I feel emotionally distant and suppressed. This is something I'm hoping this journey will help with. I've always felt like I have had trouble expressing emotions or empathy toward others for whatever reasons. It is like I don't feel things emotionally the same way as others do. One of my friends actually caught me off guard awhile back and brought it up about my emotions never changing. I didn't really know what to say so I kind of just laughed it off.



   
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