@crimsonwolf, you should edit each of your three posts, up top, to put links to all three chapters.
edit: never mind. i didn't realize all three chapters are in line here.
darwin
I have to endorse what Crimsonwolf has put here, its worked really well, however i noticed that something that isn't mentioned above.
The feelings did come back, especially after an initial hump after about 10 mins, but what i found is when it returned it wasn't more intense, often it was less, occasionally, and i mean that, it would be more intense, but ONLY if i had stimulated my nipples and thought of a fantasy.
Proof that it is not infallible a technique, but it does hold promise.
Thank you @crimsonwolf.
There are many people here that have been a great help to my jouney and I appreciate everyone that takes the time to help others. I have been at this for over 3 years and it has been an exciting and eye opening jouney yet still a bit discouraging as I have not even felt anything close to orgasm. I know there are others but I sometimes feel like I'm the only one that just can't do this. Ok... Enough crying.
I am so determined to reach the super O that I have purchased every model but the MGX, Helex Classic (the Syn was my first purchase) and the Tempo. I have had the most success with the Eupho, Helex Syn and Progasm Jr. But all have been up and down. Lately only the Helex has shown progress. I have tried both the contractions (which is what I started out doing) and the "do nothing" technique.
I have found that I get the best results when I start out with light to medium contractions and then stop and try to relax into the feelings. I feel minor sensations and when I add nipple play it amps it up big time. I get an erection and tend to drip precum on many occations but it doesn't last.
I do know one problem I have is clenching up when it starts to feel good. I will get a jolt that I can't control and BAM the feeling is gone and I'm starting over. There have been times I thought I may be close to something good but I can only get there with contractions.
When I try the "do nothing" approach I must either still be to tense or I tend to fall asleep or at least drift off.
I definitely plan to try crimsonwolf's relaxing technique hoping maybe that will prepare me for what my body needs.
I feel like if I go strictly to this technique that I would just be starting over and after 3 long up and down years I am nervous to give up on what I have archieved but obviously what I have been doing has not been successful so I say what have I got to lose right?
I do have one question... When I relax, laying on my back with legs bent, without contraction and slowly move my hips up and down tends to give me a feeling like its building to ejaculation. That has been the closest I have felt to any kind of orgasmic feeling. Should I stop doing that as well?
Well, I appologize for such a long note and I thank everyone that read this. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Once again a big thanks to @crimsonwolf. And best of luck to all on your jouneys and I hope one day all of us can enjoy what pleasures we have naturally been given as men.
Thank you @crimsonwolf.
There are many people here that have been a great help to my jouney and I appreciate everyone that takes the time to help others. I have been at this for over 3 years and it has been an exciting and eye opening jouney yet still a bit discouraging as I have not even felt anything close to orgasm. I know there are others but I sometimes feel like I'm the only one that just can't do this. Ok... Enough crying.
I am so determined to reach the super O that I have purchased every model but the MGX, Helex Classic (the Syn was my first purchase) and the Tempo. I have had the most success with the Eupho, Helex Syn and Progasm Jr. But all have been up and down. Lately only the Helex has shown progress. I have tried both the contractions (which is what I started out doing) and the "do nothing" technique.
I have found that I get the best results when I start out with light to medium contractions and then stop and try to relax into the feelings. I feel minor sensations and when I add nipple play it amps it up big time. I get an erection and tend to drip precum on many occations but it doesn't last.
I do know one problem I have is clenching up when it starts to feel good. I will get a jolt that I can't control and BAM the feeling is gone and I'm starting over. There have been times I thought I may be close to something good but I can only get there with contractions.
When I try the "do nothing" approach I must either still be to tense or I tend to fall asleep or at least drift off.
I definitely plan to try crimsonwolf's relaxing technique hoping maybe that will prepare me for what my body needs.
I feel like if I go strictly to this technique that I would just be starting over and after 3 long up and down years I am nervous to give up on what I have archieved but obviously what I have been doing has not been successful so I say what have I got to lose right?
I do have one question... When I relax, laying on my back with legs bent, without contraction and slowly move my hips up and down tends to give me a feeling like its building to ejaculation. That has been the closest I have felt to any kind of orgasmic feeling. Should I stop doing that as well?
Well, I appologize for such a long note and I thank everyone that read this. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Once again a big thanks to @crimsonwolf. And best of luck to all on your jouneys and I hope one day all of us can enjoy what pleasures we have naturally been given as men.
Dude once again please don't feel alone, you sound exactly like me and my sessions, to the friggin letter.
It's hard for us to convert what happens to others that seem to find this so easily, I can't understand why we're so different? I feel I can make progress and then the very next sesson loose it all and have to start from nothing at all. Bare in mind it's taken me 10 years so far!
@inhope. Thank you for your support. I can't imagine 10 years of trying. I do give you so much credit for stickin with it. Yes it is hard to understand what the others are experiencing. Why are we different? I know we all must have the ability to acheive the super O. Things have always come much easier to me. I have to say this has been one of the hardest things for me and I have never wanted anything so much.
I have faith that we both can get there and I will not give up and try to stay positive. Thanks to the ones that help guide our journey I know one day it will hit me and I will say "Damn I knew how to do this all along." We can do this!!
Good morning, Gents...
My method, such as it is, was written so that a beginner could come at it with the right mindset, but it's also a bit sneaky: It was written to help people start over.
One of my skydiving instructors said something crazy to me once, that I did not understand at the time: "Sometimes, backwards is forward."
This means that we all have moments in our lives, and in training the body, when we have to get past what are known as "training scars," or habits that were formed because of an initial belief or conviction, that have us led to a place we do not like.
You can't break or destroy old habits; they must be replaced by new, positive habits.
Relax...we all try too hard. Remember that the toy is intended to be a stimulus. Your body, freed of tension and contractions with the mind, must be free to respond to that stimulus.
Happy Motoring.
@inhope. Thank you for your support. I can't imagine 10 years of trying. I do give you so much credit for stickin with it. Yes it is hard to understand what the others are experiencing. Why are we different? I know we all must have the ability to acheive the super O. Things have always come much easier to me. I have to say this has been one of the hardest things for me and I have never wanted anything so much.
I have faith that we both can get there and I will not give up and try to stay positive. Thanks to the ones that help guide our journey I know one day it will hit me and I will say "Damn I knew how to do this all along." We can do this!!
All i will say is this: if i can make progress with aneros, then anyone can. Stick with it.
Hello again,
I hope I am not wrecking a wonderful thread by crimsonwolf but I feel this might be the new way I need to go. Last night I tried this session of relaxing as completely as I can. This is a difficult process for me but I gave it my best shot. Using my new favorite friend the helix syn I attempted putting it in only half way at first and let my ass slowly take it in naturally as it wanted. Wow @crimsonwolf you were right this created many good feelings but this was probably the best part of the session.
Later in my session By relaxing and breathing I did get a few involuntary movements. As far as I could tell I wasn't forcing them but I did feel myself tense up a few times. Non ever got as intense or lasted as long as when I use contractions but all the same they did show up. This is a little glimmer of hope for me. As I played with my nipples I tend to get much more movement but I think I over do the nipple play. I want them to come on there own. The question I have is... Even thought these movements were not as good as when I contract... by anyone's experience do these tend to get stronger as I practice? And how long did it take others to see steady improvement? I know we are all different but I'm just worried I'm going to get discouraged again when I am not seeing more good results from this. It's just a thought since I feel like I am taking a step back from the progress I was doing to kind of start over with this technique. I guess hearing from others that this is the path that worked for them will give me more faith and hope that will help me relax and just stick with it. Thanks in advance for any input or advice.
It seems to me that your attention is too focused on that area of your body.
Your need to detect or translate or ENHANCE the "movement" of the toy is not serving you. Focus on your whole body, or rather, relax into your whole body. How do your arms and shoulders feel? How do your legs feel? Breathe realxation into your whole body, and stop trying to monitor what the toy is doing - I assure you, when a super orgasm hits you, you will NOT be able keep track of what the toy did.
You won't give a fifth of a fuck about it. 😉
@crimsonwolf. Thank you for your input. That makes sense I can give that a try. Do you think I need to concentrate on some sexual fantasy as well or do you think just concentrating on all different parts of my body will be enough to get it going? I find myself thinking about too many things at once... I think. It seems it would be easy to just relax and let it happen but maybe I just need more patience. I just want this so bad.
You're most welcome, sir. 🙂
I know exactly how you feel - works the same way in skydiving: you can't fly your body until you can allow yourself to relax. Completely counterintuitive, but it's nature's way.
Give yourself permission to surrender...to your body, to TIME, to the thoughts that come, and to the truth. It can start sounding a little "out there" as I tend to describe it - and although it's mental as well as physical, you start with feeling, with pleasure. Follow THAT rabbit, and you can't go wrong.
Breathe, feel, and surrender. You'll get there.
Edited to add: As in the method that started this thread, it may be helpful to state your intentions out loud to yourself - you ARE in control of your mind and body, and they WILL cooperate if you ask properly: Ask gently and ask often. State your intentions, and be careful about how you do it.
Thanks again for your positive thoughts and reinforcement as it is well needed for me at this time. Once again i understand what you are saying and can't wait till I get some time alone to give another go at it. Though you are right it does sound a little out there, I'm very willing and not scared to give anything a try. Finding long enough time alone is tricky since my wife is often around. I plan to let her know as soon as I figure a few more things out as I know she would be very open to it, but I also know she wouldn't have the patience during the learning process. 3 years has been a long time to hide such a secret that I can't wait to let out of the bag. Lol
Cheers to you and thank you for your time you have shared with me and for others to learn and grow. I can't wait to see all of your videos you come out with. You have done a great job on them so far.
I can't wait to see all of your videos you come out with. You have done a great job on them so far.
What videos do you mean @aneros_user86949 ?
He has a few on the different products and I think he mentioned he may do a relaxation one. That would be something very beneficial for me I would think.
Could you share these? You mean review videoed?
Yes they are reviews on a couple aneros models. But I think it's in this thread that he said he may make a relaxation video. That one would be great. I'm not sure how to share them on my phone sorry, but if you go under crimsonwolf and read his 2 discussions of "Well, I didn't plan on this" and the review on the Helix classic. He has links there. I'm really hoping he will do a relaxation video. Just in case you are reading this crimsonwolf. Lol
A relaxation video would be excellent
Here you go, Gents:
MGX vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdV3tufov6M&app=desktop
Helix Classic vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHAuaugZSZY&app=desktop
Enjoy...relaxation vid coming soon.
Thank you. I just bought my first aneros and all these explanations are extremely helpful. I'll keep follow your posts and videos.
.... The REALLY amazing part of this is that, in reality, the brain doesn’t really perceive the difference between physical and clearly visualized, nonphysical actions – to the brain, both are equally concrete, equally real. ...
Thank's for that Crimsonwolf !
That was the key for my own method, even if used in a reversed way.
I'd call it the "Mimic Trick" and it works at 100% for me, so why not for another one ?
Very simple, but i guess you have to be already "rewired" to use it.
So here it is : as soon as you feel the first P-wave coming, just act like if it were super-O coming (here i clinch and grin, like an actor in fact). This open a door in my mind, sending it and my body in a real super-O quite instantly. That's all, folks !
That does work for me mainly with the deVice (you can't ignore it when inserted). The main advantage of this method is I'm over with a session of 15 minute, so i can have many more without feeling sore.
Hope it can help a similar, and happy riding !
.... The REALLY amazing part of this is that, in reality, the brain doesn’t really perceive the difference between physical and clearly visualized, nonphysical actions – to the brain, both are equally concrete, equally real. ...
Thank's for that Crimsonwolf !
That was the key for my own method, even if used in a reversed way.
I'd call it the "Mimic Trick" and it works at 100% for me, so why not for another one ?
Very simple, but i guess you have to be already "rewired" to use it.
So here it is : as soon as you feel the first P-wave coming, just act like if it were super-O coming (here i clinch and grin, like an actor in fact). This open a door in my mind, sending it and my body in a real super-O quite instantly. That's all, folks !
That does work for me mainly with the deVice (you can't ignore it when inserted). The main advantage of this method is I'm over with a session of 15 minute, so i can have many more without feeling sore.
Hope it can help a similar, and happy riding !
How is the device for you? do you use the vibrate much? i hear it can be bad for some users?
The deVice is the Vice without the vibrator 🙂
The deVice is the Vice without the vibrator 🙂
should got the vibrating one, you can always turn it off
As you said before, "it can be bad for some users" ... like me. I know vibrations really kills my sensations.
As you said before, "it can be bad for some users" ... like me. I know vibrations really kills my sensations.
can i ask what you have used that vibrates to know that? ive not had anything that goes in anally as such, to a degree that it would hit the prostate.
Got a Lelo Billy as it's said the cream of anal vibrators, and ditched it after a few attempts. Maybe it's just me being allergic to vibrations, as my wife is in love with her Mona2 (clitovaginally speaking).
But the deVice is so cool even if it doesn't buzz. You can get a Vice to have a try with or w/out vibrations, maybe you'll have more luck than me ..
I have the Billy and have used it a few times. I had my first Super-O with the Billy. I think it triggered something in me at that point.Since then, I've been able to Super-O with any of the Aneros devices and not with the Billy. But, I do give the Billy a lot of credit for showing me "The Light".
I'm 3 years into this journey and have to admit I've fallen into some bad habits of trying to control the outcome of my sessions by short cutting the process by doing contractions.
I tried this method last night with incredible results. I focused on being the observer and surrendered to the process. It didn't take long at all. The initial insertion of my Helix syn took several minutes as I inched it in and what a difference it made. Within minutes the pleasure waves began with each one stronger than the previous one, just as described.
In less than 5 minutes the auto-fuck started and it took all I could to not contract which seemed to intensify the feelings.
I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks. However in reality this is the way I started and as I said earlier, I had lost my way. Thanks to Crimsonwolf and to whoever revived this thread.
This technique helped me a lot too. That was one of the reasons I bumped it. During my early days with Aneros this method didn't do much for me. But now, It actually speeds things up rather than it being a longer route to the Super-O. I think it helps more after some amount of rewiring has occurred.
Happy Riding!
-LS