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Hello guys, I thought I'd start a topic about this now while I'm thinking about it: practicing semen retention for Lent.  Ash Wednesday is less than a month off and I've been considering this for a while; you might even say I've been training for it!  Except that my longest time retaining semen recently is about 3.5 weeks.  I'm not Catholic and don't usually practice anything like the Lenten Sacrifice, though I've had friends/roommates mention it to me occasionally, usually involving them giving up meat or drinking only water.  But why not give up ejaculation?  It's certainly something that can be sacrificed in an effort to purify myself and make me a better person.  And I would encourage anyone willing to try, to join me in this journey.  I don't think this necessarily has to have any religious significance and it shouldn't matter if you're not Catholic, Christian, practicing anything whatsoever: you could just think of it as a fun challenge!  And I won't prescribe any Our Fathers or Hail Marys if you fail; if you must, recite the Red Green Man's Prayer ten times:
I'm a man, but I can change. 
If I have to. 
I guess. 

So, with that said: for those willing to join me or give it some thought, you have time to consider.  Ash Wednesday starts February 17th and I will abstain from ejaculating for 40 days, until Easter.  I hope you'll join me. 


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@Faith-Manages

 

What a wonderful idea. It's actually really hard to do - I've tried NoFap and most I got to was 22 days of no ejaculation, it's really really hard to do.

 

But it's a good thing to attempt, it can teach about desire and horniness. I'm tempted to try again if I can manage to keep myself composed enough to do it.


   
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@lonewolf8 @faithmanages How very odd, but this topic has been on my mind of late. Not, I admit, about (not) doing it for Lent, but in general, for maybe a week. I admit, I’ve been in the once-or-twice-daily habit for 45 years, so the prospect of a week without ejaculating is daunting. I’ve tried before and I get a few days in and start to worry it’ll never rise again, or I wake in the night with hard cock in hand, or ... clearly I have no bloody self control. 

Ok, I’m game for a practice round at least, with time yet before the Lent challenge begins and no promises to join in that particular madness. What are the ground rules? Is the point to avoid stimulation, or anything goes except actually ejaculating?  Edging for hours? A-less? Aneros? This could be .. interesting, and desperately infuriating.

Self immolating, more likely.  

 

 


   
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@lonewolf8 @faithmanages How very odd, but this topic has been on my mind of late. Not, I admit, about (not) doing it for Lent, but in general, for maybe a week. I admit, I’ve been in the once-or-twice-daily habit for 45 years, so the prospect of a week without ejaculating is daunting. I’ve tried before and I get a few days in and start to worry it’ll never rise again, or I wake in the night with hard cock in hand, or ... clearly I have no bloody self control. 

Ok, I’m game for a practice round at least, with time yet before the Lent challenge begins and no promises to join in that particular madness. What are the ground rules? Is the point to avoid stimulation, or anything goes except actually ejaculating?  Edging for hours? A-less? Aneros? This could be .. interesting, and desperately infuriating.

Self immolating, more likely.  

I've been working on semen retention a lot starting in June so I'll admit I have a head start but it's not a contest!  Currently I'm at 2 weeks.  I propose nothing more than retention of semen.  I'm not proposing abstention from sexual activity, just whatever you do, don't ejaculate.  Hopefully this will have the effect of supercharging your arousal and take your Aneros sessions to the next level and perhaps partnered sex too, hmmmm? 


   
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But why not give up ejaculation?  It's certainly something that can be sacrificed in an effort to purify myself and make me a better person.

Semen retention is an ancient practice, practiced by many men in hopes of improving their quality of life. I endorse this temporal practice as part of ones Aneros journey for its arousal heightening benefits (please see the thread Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence/Semen Retention). To assist you in your endeavor may I suggest you enroll in the 21 Day Challenge. This was discussed in some detail nearly 5 years ago in the thread 21 day challenge post. You and others may find that thread helpful as you proceed.

Good Vibes to You!

 


   
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Hopefully this will have the effect of supercharging your arousal and take your Aneros sessions to the next level

It did so to me. And, oh yes, that's been a challenge. I'm not in the mood for it now, but I can truly recommend it and I wish you all good luck, fellows!

If you wanna read about my experiences, you're invited to visit my blog to read about 7 postings

beginning with https://community.aneros.com/day-28-of-2nd-sr-challenge/ and ending with

https://community.aneros.com/day-41-of-2nd-sr-challenge-ending-with-sr-by-cumming-from-old-fashioned-masturbation/

Now I'm full of horny anticipation to read your reports, guys! 🙂

Cheers! Mart

P.S. More reading matter:

http://www.1vigor.com/article/ejaculation-frequency/

http://www.healing-tao.co.uk/Article_Taoist_Ejaculation_Formula.htm

https://aeon.co/essays/tantric-sex-promises-healthy-bliss-what-does-the-science-say

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i like the last article (aeon) you posted. It gives a good overview of the history of these new age pseudo-tantric practices. The one thing many semen retention practices lack is a reliable alternative form of orgasm, similar to a woman’s orgasm, that doesn’t « drain energy » (I don’t think it drains energy, personally, but that is commonly claimed).  Enter prostate orgasms...

The author brings up the dubious claim of longevity from semen retention, one that I have often questioned. Because, as he says, studies have shown that regular ejaculation is correlated with longer life span. Since there is no science that proves whether it is simply lack of sexual stimulation or semen congestion that reduces life span, I prefer personally to hold off from excessive semen retention.

I enjoy not ejaculating for a few days (I am on day 6 right now) because it does increase arousal and prostate sensitivity. However my body tells me it is time to release after a while, because at some point it feels physically uncomfortable (depending on how much prostate play and/or sex I have had). At which point I clean house regularly for a few days.  Like, deep cleaning.  I also am happy to not add an aspect of guilt to an otherwise guilt-free sexuality (guilt of breaking the SR streak). This is of course just my own unique take...

Though I won’t join you all, for the above reasons, I wholeheartedly (wholeprostatedly?) support your endeavors!

 


   
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Gentlemen.  In the matter of semen retention, do you consider ruined orgasms where I emit some semen but do not invoke the refractory period to be breeching semen retention???

As an older guy who hates that regular ejaculatory orgasms can cause days of lower libido and sex drive, I have found that that little bit of semen drooling out in a ruined orgasm does not lower my libido or sex drive like a regular orgasm.  So for me, life has become in my solo play wonderful ruined orgasms which serve to make me more horny, not less horny which improves erectile quality and also serves to keep my prostate healthy by emitting some semen.

What do you think?  Are my type ruined orgasms semen retention or not????


   
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Gentlemen.  In the matter of semen retention, do you consider ruined orgasms where I emit some semen but do not invoke the refractory period to be breeching semen retention???

As an older guy who hates that regular ejaculatory orgasms can cause days of lower libido and sex drive, I have found that that little bit of semen drooling out in a ruined orgasm does not lower my libido or sex drive like a regular orgasm.  So for me, life has become in my solo play wonderful ruined orgasms which serve to make me more horny, not less horny which improves erectile quality and also serves to keep my prostate healthy by emitting some semen.

What do you think?  Are my type ruined orgasms semen retention or not????

Wow, this is a really interesting idea. I have had ruined orgasms, but by mistake (too aggressive a blow job from my wife, too aggressive sex), and where I was able to hold back from ejaculating all but a minor amount of semen, and I was able to still have a serviceable erection and extend our lovemaking session. And last longer, and ejaculate more come. I have never thought about deliberately ruining an orgasm though. It makes a lot of sense. May try this.


   
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I have never gone more than a few weeks; maybe 2 1/2 weeks max. I do routinely edge during the week, prior to our usual weekend sex. I absolutely love the level of sexual energy I build up, and the heightened sense of arousal, at the end of the week. I almost don't want to orgasm and end those feelings. That electric feeling, riding a wave of desire where my body is aching for release, is incredible. My wife usually notices me running around the house at the end of the week doing things on our to-do lists; I will do anything to impress her and be in her good graces to make sure she will fuck me. Haha.


   
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My wife usually notices me running around the house at the end of the week doing things on our to-do lists; I will do anything to impress her and be in her good graces to make sure she will fuck me. Haha.

I have heard this referred to as “chore-play”...haha!


   
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@7sdoor OMG that is perfect! haha.

 


   
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What do you think?  Are my type ruined orgasms semen retention or not????

Absolutely yes! 

Only if perfectly „ruined“, of course, without any spurting at all and without setting free any of those happiness hormones coming with your usual ejaculation. Best done if all stimulation already ended some seconds before spilling over those few decent drops. 

Dangerous but most thrilling! 🙂 Enjoy your horniness! 😉


   
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. My wife usually notices me running around the house at the end of the week doing things on our to-do lists; I will do anything to impress her and be in her good graces to make sure she will fuck me. Haha.

You must be young married; my wife won't be impressed with me if I don't knock things off the to-do list and I get nothing at the end of the week except thanks. LOL

 

There's an old saying; 'it starts when you sink in her arms and ends with your arms in the sink'.

 

Good vibes to all! 

 


   
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However my body tells me it is time to release

I‘m on your page, @divine_o, why I prefer from the second article, I have posted, 

the „Formula 3, age and strength:“ 
concerning my age and referring to my respective mood and strength something between
„Fifties: strong 1:5, weak 1:10 and Sixties: strong 1:10, weak 1:20“,

quite matching with your experiences and my latest release frequencies between 5 days and three weeks. 

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Hey, I'm already doing Nofap and no orgasm since 18th December 2020 so I'm going a little over a month. I'm probably going to keep going, since I'm single right now it's a good opportunity to practice this. I don't count wet dreams as failing the challenge, since one can't really help it.

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Guys, it was @goldenboy who inspired me to practice semen retention a couple years ago. The practice revolutionized my life as well as working with the Aneros. At nearly 72 years old, I have energy which is actually sublimation in my intellectual activities. But at a deeper level it is a  subtle "boiling" in my balls. Actually my awakened prostate and the energy which emanates from it radiates throughout my genitalia. Many nights in bed, I explore all this when I diddle my nipples and Kegel some!

I will add that when I masturbate, beat my meat, the orgasms I produce can be volcanic and the semen I ejaculate is so creamy. My prostate orgasm can last several minutes.

 

 


   
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Gentlemen.  In the matter of semen retention, do you consider ruined orgasms where I emit some semen but do not invoke the refractory period to be breeching semen retention???

As an older guy who hates that regular ejaculatory orgasms can cause days of lower libido and sex drive, I have found that that little bit of semen drooling out in a ruined orgasm does not lower my libido or sex drive like a regular orgasm.  So for me, life has become in my solo play wonderful ruined orgasms which serve to make me more horny, not less horny which improves erectile quality and also serves to keep my prostate healthy by emitting some semen.

What do you think?  Are my type ruined orgasms semen retention or not????

I honestly don't know where this fits or if I am the right person to give you advice here.  I would think that if semen's coming out then it's not being retained, is it?  I mean it is better than a full-blown ejaculatory orgasm and certainly I've read articles of how ruined orgasms have a lot of the same benefits.  I just don't know if I know enough about it to answer your question.  I would say though, that if you are already well-versed there and you seem to be, perhaps it's time to go further?  I mean if you've been practicing ruined orgasms for months/years would continuing to do the exact same thing for the 40 days of Lent be at all meaningful?  Where's the challenge?  What are you giving up? 


   
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Guys while I'm thinking about it I will tell you some of my personal stuff.  I've been keeping an ejaculation log since July because I know I didn't ejaculate much in June at all, but I didn't write it down.  So I'll break down the last 6+ months:
July: ejaculated 3 times, longest period of abstention was 20 days
August: ejaculated 10 times, pretty evenly-spaced
September: ejaculated 6 times, pretty evenly-spaced
October: ejaculated 8 times, longest period of abstention was 7 days
November: ejaculated 5 times, longest period of abstention was 13 days
December: ejaculated 3 times, longest period of abstention was 22 days
January: ejaculated 4 times, longest period of abstention was 15 days

Looking at it that way I feel like I'm not out of the woods yet!  I don't know if I will ejaculate again before the 17th but if I do I want it to be a completely voluntary and conscious decision on my part, not just a spur-of-the-moment reflex. 

My most recent ejaculation was less than a week ago and came out of a sense of frustration I think, because my Aneros session wasn't as enjoyable as I was hoping.  I know I'm on the right track if my prostate is throbbing and I get a rock-hard erection which wasn't happening and I could tell that this session was over but I didn't want to let it go.  So I tried to keep hard using my hands, just light touching around the bottom of the head and that by itself was incredibly enjoyable.  The problem is that while I've read Love Satisfies, I haven't really put any of that into practice in a meaningful way; perhaps after Easter I will start devoting some time to learning just where my point of no return is and working on finding that place between orgasm and ejaculation. 

I have a long way to go and the arousal builds so quickly that I'd go very quickly from no pleasure to almost ejaculating.  And also I have come to understand that once I start touching my penis I have very little self-control, it will end in ejaculation if I go on long enough.  I don't know if this is just a holdover from teenage years where I didn't know any better but after a while an ejaculatory orgasm is all I want.  I've kind of known that, which is why I've shied away from flirting with the edge because I don't know when to stop.  And after a while I don't want to. 

I will also say that retaining semen has gotten easier through the last 6 months of slow buildup to the point where I can now ejaculate once and that's all I feel a need for a while.  I don't feel overly horny, or maybe I'm used to it and it doesn't bother me; I can't say.  In fact I have had days in a row where I'm not really even thinking about sex (got other things to worry me maybe).  Heck I've gone a few days without remembering if I've even had an erection!  But when I feel my prostate calling for an Anerosession it can be just a whisper and perhaps that's part of the benefit: when I ignore my penis shouting I can hear the whisper of my prostate.  When I get aroused I have noticed it starting as a "flutter" in my prostate and that can lead to an erection.*  And even though I had ejaculated just two days before, when I got that flutter and knew that my mind was quiet that day I decided to go ahead with a session. 

And that session was glorious, as well as a bit unique for me.  I wouldn't say that I was feeling orgasmic sensations but for some reason I think I was able to cultivate arousal more effectively than in the past.  In most sessions I will get to a place where I'm quiet enough and relaxed enough that I get a rhythmic throbbing in my prostate mirroring my heartbeat, and then when it's going really good the erection will start.  This session my prostate was throbbing from almost the beginning and though I wouldn't say I reached orgasmic levels of pleasure, the buildup was long, steady, linear, intense, and ultimately incredibly enjoyable. 

So what did semen retention do for me here?  It's my theory that it's helped me raise my baseline arousal and that I've gotten to a point where one ejaculation doesn't drain me, or make me feel like I'm back at Square One.  And the more I'm in-tune with my body the more I can tell just when to have a great session by listening to my prostate.  I hope that's an encouragement to you all!  I haven't been on a whole lot the past week or so and don't know when I'll be back but I'll say this: I'm happy this thread has sparked such an interest!  Even if it's an interest filled with trepidation.  So to all the men willing to join me I say thank you.  There is Grace and Honor in what you strive for, and the issue isn't "what if I fail" as much as your choice to continue on after that.  Keep going, and remember: Faith manages. 

*I've also been getting what (I assume) are involuntary spasms in almost a thrusting motion.  I don't know what that's about. 


   
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To add to the last post I ejaculated on the 1st and the 9th of this month.  As tomorrow is Fat Tuesday I was considering one last ejaculation in true Mardi Gras fashion, but I haven't made up my mind yet.  A lot of you posted earlier about doubting whether you could make it...well here is your chance to find out, I encourage you to join me. 


   
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I am 66 years old. I don't cum very much now. In the past,  I use to jack off every day and produce enough cum to fill a shot glass when I was 20; at 30, I produced about 3/4 of that. At 40 half a shot glass. To 50. My wife had a stroke, so it left me without a sex partner, so I looked for alternatives.

I started playing with anerous but still ejaculated, once a week, then every 2 weeks, my semen count dropped to a teaspoon full. Still, after thinking I am running out of cum I freaked out but started ejaculating more, and my sperm count has increased to a tablespoon. I cum for the pleasure of the release. I play with the syn trident almost daily and enjoy the sensations I get.

I have small anal orgasms; sometimes, with work, I get a big O, shake all over,  convulse the whole world moves without ejaculation. But that lays waste to me. For several months now, I cum once a week, and I am producing more cum.

I think I will reward myself for still being alive, and cum once a week. good luck to you all edging, 

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Happy Easter Monday everyone.  I wanted to take a few minutes to reflect.  I was very busy this month and so didn't post much.  It would have been great to post regular updates here but that just wasn't a possibility, perhaps next year.  And who knows, if further down the line there may be a daily devotional?  Talking with one of you in PM he wanted to know what I'm getting out of it all.  Honestly, for me, it's no longer about increased arousal.  I now have a baseline to work with and know what my body will do after it's been on an ejaculation diet for a while.  I feel much more "in control" of myself and not at the mercy of my urges.  That is the primary benefit for me: there's a power in choosing to ejaculate instead of being a slave to my penis' needs.  And how many times have I heard the old stereotype that men are slaves to their penises?  1 Corinthians 9:27 (in part): "But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection..."  I feel much more like the Master of my domain as the saying goes.

I suppose there have been other benefits as well, certainly I've had a few women start flirting with me now, something I've noticed more the last few years; is that due to increased sexual energy from semen retention?  Hard to quantify but I just wanted to mention it.  I had a girl come up and talk to me just a few days ago and it really is a self-esteem booster.  I feel like I'm more energized, due to my new job my body is toughening up and getting stronger too.  I didn't magically reach the Super-O though I've made some good strides in the last month and a half with that as well.  For everything else, time will tell. 

Will I keep with it?  Not quite as strictly, but yes.  I'll ejaculate tonight but don't plan on going back to it every (other) day.  Now that I've found a balance in my sexual energy I want to keep cultivating it.  I hope others who decided to at least attempt it will post something here as well. 


   
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@faith-manages, just for curiosity, how long is SR for you?

 

I really like your synopsis on how you evolved away from penile slavery and became Master of your domain . It brings things in perspective for me.

 


   
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@faith-manages I’m not sure I understand SR. If we leak semen during sessions,amd I leak a lot,is SR not lost? Would we not have to live the monk life for SR?

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I've had a few women start flirting with me now, something I've noticed more the last few years; is that due to increased sexual energy from semen retention?

My own guess is this would be from a build up of testosterone. But I don’t delve into things as deep as some on here. Test works funny,it will build up,but it also elevates after sex. The morning after sex,I’m shining like a new penny. My test is elevated. I can feel it. It’s also directly attributed to health and body fat and the % of female hormones you possess. If you have some deep feeling to put your penis inside these women who flirt with you,that’s the old test!!! You’ll  find they are flirting because some deep feeling is telling them they want your penis inside them! Ha ha Do ‘em all I say!!!

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I had a girl come up and talk to me just a few days ago and it really is a self-esteem booster.

Ha ha nothing like a five minute conversation with a pretty female to boost the test!!!!

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I feel like I'm more energized, due to my new job my body is toughening up and getting stronger too.

You want to start lifting,that’ll boost test,blood flow,health,confidence,everything and catch the eye of even more ladies,not to mention you’ll feel a million bucks. 

 


   
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I've had a few women start flirting with me now, something I've noticed more the last few years; is that due to increased sexual energy from semen retention?  Hard to quantify but I just wanted to mention it.  I had a girl come up and talk to me just a few days ago and it really is a self-esteem booster.  I feel like I'm more energized, due to my new job my body is toughening up and getting stronger too.

I have experienced this firsthand. I would definitely say a lot of it has to do with the level of sexual energy; especially if you are edging without ejaculations for extended periods of time.

I took a series of Skype seminars with a female Pleasure Coach (not a sex coach), trying to enhance my sexual awareness, improve my body control, and try to reach another level of sensualness. Sounds corny maybe, but I was curious to try it, and went in somewhat skeptical.

Through the course of the Somatic trainings I was doing a lot of edging and fantasy play. She told me I should come when I felt my body naturally needed me to, and if I wanted to do that, but to try and see what happens if I don't. It was fantastic 'holding out', and not torturous at all, but became thrilling almost. As the days went by with more practice, it felt like I had electricity surging through my body. Absolutely wonderful.

At a certain point I noticed females stopping to chat in my office, women baristas starting conversations with me, and similar very positive feedback and smiles from women all the time. In one case I literally watched a co-workers nipples harden under her sweater during our very non-sexual business chat.

This attention was very noticeable; much more so than possibly coincidence. It honestly felt like an aura around me. It felt incredible. And very positive, and gave me confidence. I mentioned it to my Coach and she was not surprised in the least to hear that; almost to the point of saying she was wondering when I would experience that happening, and that it was part of the process. She was surprised how early I arrived at that point in the training.

She and I had lots of discussions around the difference between your sexual energy and your sensual energy; and that all great lovers are in touch with their sensualness, and how that makes a male much more attractive to women. She believed that men and women can pick up on the energy I described as an aura, and that it was part of natural attraction of the sexes for each other. It seemed magnetic.

When my wife's job changed an I no longer had a lot of alone time to practice, the feelings slowly went away, as did the office chats, and the feedback. For me, it obviously needs to be a ritualistic, daily, practice session to get to that part of heightened level of desire and awareness. It was one of the most incredible things and experiences I have ever had.


   
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@helghast don't confuse ejaculated semen with pre-ejaculate, which has only trace amounts (if any) of sperm.  If too much sperm is lost then our bodies direct a lot of energy to replenishing it which would otherwise be used elsewhere; or that's the argument.  If sperm = life energy then conserving it makes sense though I don't think I would go that far myself.  My new job is very physical and that has no doubt raised my testosterone level too, and I'm building muscle and losing weight. 

@ggringo before yesterday I hadn't ejacluated since Feb. 16; it's my longest streak as far as I'm aware. 

@ca25 it sounds like you have a few things figured out!  May your practice time be restored one way or another. 

 


   
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 @ca25 it sounds like you have a few things figured out!  May your practice time be restored one way or another. 

Yes, thanks. It was a special time in my life. One that I would enjoy revisiting.


   
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