Prostate cradle

I've been having fun with the cradle again as well, darwin. I'd really like to hear the details of how you've been using your cradle. I have to agree that the external spot it hits really can give some amazing results. This last session I tried your suggestion of massaging that area in front, a couple of inches above the penis, below the naval. Wow. It really did help send me over the edge into some serious waves!

Hey Darwin,

I would also love to hear more of your experiences with the Prostate Cradle in detail. I have to agree, I also feel that it rivals (or rather compliments) the Aneros in it's capabilities.

For clarification, the use of the "P-Spot" or orgasmic spot in the perineum has actually been much more than just alluded to in the Tantric tradition. It has also been extensively documented in Taoist Health and Sexual practices for well over a thousand years. It is well known among teachers of sexual practices, acupuncturists, and practitioners of things like Tai Chi and Chi Gung.

Not to take anything away from the Prostate Cradle (like I said, I think it's a wonderful invention and about time someone created one!) but this is a definitely another case of "re-inventing the wheel."

Pan

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As Pan talked about in one the previous posts, I too have been experiencing some soreness with the Cradle. As good as it can make you feel, I feel some discomfort when I use it. I understand the cushioning thing, and Pan you gave some very good suggestions about that, but I still find that using less cushion is what gives me the strong orgasms. Darwin, I'd like to hear how you handle that aspect of it.

While I'm using the cradle and enjoying the orgasmic waves, the soreness starts to distract me. I usually say "ouuuchh" while I slowly ease off of the thing and take it out from under me. It does hurt sometimes, but do agree with Darwin calling the good sensations it gives "delicious"!

Thanks everyone!

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ok, here is what i've figured out so far.

most importantly, like the aneros, the cradle takes time to figure out.

the particular strengths of the cradle, relative to the aneros, for me, are:
- psychologically, a cradle session is less of a commitment: (a) you don't necessarily need to take off your clothes (more on that below); (b) you can interrupt on a moment's notice (very good for maintaining proper family life while kindling your addiction); (c) the cradle is "clean cut" relative to the aneros in that you don't get involved with rectal penetration. for me this means that i feel less "private" about using the cradle. for example, i would feel more comfortable suggesting the cradle to a friend than the aneros. as i said, this is a "psychological" perspective and clearly is very individualistic. In sum, the cradle is more "family/wife/friend friendly" for those of us who have that as an issue. you can get up and stir the soup, and get right back on it.

- because you can adjust the forward/backward position of it, you can more easily play around with it to find your way to your sweet spot. with the aneros, you kind of have to modify the device to make fit adjustments.

- the cradle gives a very deep massage, as Pan pointed out. As we both noted, you can get more of a sense of being milked from the cradle than i've had with the aneros. this is the feeling like you are continually secreting. this is not to say that one couldn't achieve this with the aneros, and i'm sure plenty of guys have (eg, the guy in the "half-decent" video). but, it seems to come more naturally w/ the cradle. and, that feels very good. furthermore, for me, the depth of the perineal massage gives a particular character to the pleasure, a kind of "cradle" pleasure (different than the aneros's own special kinds of pleasure).

- the rear hump hits my K-spot in a way that is just intoxicating. it brings to bear a whole different set of muscles and engages my pelvic floor in ways different from the aneros.

- these last two points lead me to have a very particular "cradle horniness" a strong longing that arises from my loins, pushing me to use it. now it is also true that many of us know what "aneros hornines" is, and that the aneros has its own form of it. so, it may be that my "attraction" to the cradle is partly due to its novelty for me now.

the cradle and aneros can be friends, not enemies

These advantages to the cradle in no way detract from the aneros. they both give very intense pleasure, but do so using a slightly different approach that leads to a qualitatively different experience.

For example, you won't get the feeling of being fucked from the cradle. it is not as dynamic as the aneros. and, you won't get that great feeling in your k-spot from the aneros.

Also, while i've had very strong orgasms w/ the cradle (including convulsions), i haven't felt myself go over the top into super-O. i suspect this may only be a matter of time. but, even if not, the cradle still rocks and is definitely worth having.

I hate to say this, but, it might be that one considers the cradle as an alternative to, say, one's second or third aneros model. I would hate to have to feel that these two excellent products must compete with each other.

Indeed, i suspect that the untapped market is so huge for both that their mutual ability to bring men into this arena for each other should seriously outweigh any market share loss they each could incur on each other. besides, we all know that once a guy has felt this, he's gonna spend his expendable income on getting more of it.

how i used the cradle

from what i can tell there are three "adjustments"
(1) how you cushion it, ie, what you are sitting on
(2) how you position yourself on it, front to back
(3) how you comport yourself during its use

(1) like pan described, a good way to reduce the pressure is to put the cradle on a cushion (this is suggested by the manufacturer). i personally don't recommend putting towels over the unit (also recommended by the manufacturer) as this seems to me to reduce the effectiveness of the massage, but i definitely suggest experimenting here.

once you get more accustomed to the cradle, i don't think you'll want to blunt it with anything on top of it. the shape of it specifically stimulates you in a desirable way that is dulled with stuff over it. dulling it may even lead you to push your weight down on it harder in search of pleasure, so may be counter-productive.

i found these extremely good surfaces to be on (all of which soften the cradle's attack a bit, sidestepping the soreness issues):
- my tilting office chair (at home). it has a leather (vinyl) cushion that softens the cradle and give my cheeks a little support. i very much like tilting back the chair.

- my "orgasm chair," which is a LaFuma Recliner. It is kind of an outdoor chair with a suspended fine mesh surface. i can go back into a full recline and the mesh has enough bounce for me to kind of flex the chair rhythmically, which feels really good

- lying on my back in my bed. this one i highly recommend because it really softens the attach, yet feels incredible. (it is subtle at first so don't give up if you don't feel anything at first.) unlike with the aneros, with the cradle you keep your legs straight on the bed so the p-hump engages your perineum. it gives me the very same feeling of "super boner" that the helix gives me.

(2) the front to back positioning is a very interesting question. i suggest, first, that you really play with this. for me, i found that having the cradle more forward on me, so that the rear hump is near my hole and the p-hump is a little more forward on my perineum was a good way to get used to the device. you will know when the p-hump is on your sweet spot. you get a very distinctive tingle. once you get the hang of the unit, you will find yourself varying the forward-back position for the different variants of cradle pleasure they give.

note: to adjust forward/back, i find that raising myself up a bit off the cradle and using the other hand to reposition the cradle is easier and more accurate than trying to readjust my body relative to it. one more thing: the cradle does not slide. the silicone base forms a kind of suction, so you have to peel the unit up and adjust it. do this carefully so you can make fine adjustments.

if you feel something is sore, then change position. for example if the p-hump is feeling too much, move yourself back relative to the unit to decrease its attack.

about wearing pants. it seems to me that you need to wear baggy pants, boxers or nothing at all. the reason is that you want the rear hump to be nestled in your crack. if you have enough loose fabric for that to happen then you're good to go. otherwise peal off a layer. you might even want to spread your cheeks when things get heavy.

(3) how your comport yourself. i suspect the main thing here is to relax and deep belly breath. my theory is that the soreness is more muscle soreness than organ soreness, and that by relaxing your muscles you get more pleasure and less soreness. (this is what is suggested by the manufacturer's instructions, and i think it makes sense.)

also, as the manufacturer suggests, try changing your body angle by leaning forward or backward or left to right. further, as he suggests, if you find a slight pleasure from that adjustment, linger there and let the pleasure build.

finally, you did not hear from me the suggestion to try the cradle on a train ride.

darwin

Hey Darwin,

thanks for your EXCELLENT analysis of the Prostate Cradle.

I have to say my experience reflects just about everything said, although I have not yet tried it lying down or on a train...

Also, I just wanted to confirm some of the points you made:

- I think placing any kind of padding on top of the Cradle reduces it's effectiveness. In my experience, cushioning is most effective underneath and/or around the device.

- Although the manufacturer claims one may use the device while wearing clothes, I agree that they must be loose fitting. For instance, I have only used it while wearing sweatpants. I can't imagine this thing massaging very well through a pair of denim jeans.

- As you said, lifting one's body from the device and adjusting the Cradle with one hand before re-settling seems to be the fastest and easiest way to find the sweet spot.

- I also agree that relaxed abdominal breathing is important. And on that note I just wanted to add one thing I discovered which is that one possible way to help induce the prostatic orgasms is to use the Tantric "Breath of Fire" for short burts (perhaps 60 seconds or less) at a time.

The Breath of Fire is really just a simple breathing pattern that involves abdominal panting for short periods of time.

I noticed that when I am close the edge, brief periods of panting from the lower abdomen will trigger orgasms in a similar manner to the abdominal self-massage method that the manufacturer recommends.

Well, that's all I've got for now.

Thanks again Darwin for writing the first "How-To" Prostate Cradle Guide in the forum!

🙂

Pan

well, i said i thought it would only be a matter of time....

i'm just back from my first cradle super-O.

oh my god it felt good.

here are various discoveries i made:

(1) lying down position is good for beginners because it is less aggressive

(2) i was wrong, you don't have to keep your legs straight when lying down. you can bend, hump, undulate etc. lying down requires a bit more careful adjustment to get the p-hump in correct position.

(3) i believe soreness comes from having the cradle to far back. if you feel soreness, move the cradle a tad forward. the rear hump should be quite close to your hole.

(4) it is most excellent to use it in a tilting back chair. it is more intense than lying down.

(5) you can try these positions:
- legs tight together
- feet up on chair, with knees near chin
- legs spread wide

(6) when you are ready for a super-O, put your hand in the soft spot above your pubes, where you can feel the edge of your pelvic bone, and rub in a circular fashion, like the manufacture suggests.

(7) when you are super-O-ing, the entire length of the cradle from hump, to valley, to hump, offers unbelievably good feelings in that lowest part of your body. you will be grinding against it.

(8) let me re-iterate, if you are feeling soreness move the cradle forward a tad.

enjoy

darwin

Has any man tried the sybian ?
I think it looks like fun.

http://www.sybian.com/aff/sybian_overview.html

The Prostate Cradle *IS* the Sybian for men.

🙂

sorry to bump an old post guys but i have a few prostate cradle questions:
first and foremost, im wondering if those of you who reported big findings with the cradle initially are still actively enjoying and using it regularily? when this post originally arose, it really caught my eye as i had actually been thinking for awhile of ways to stimulate the prostate through the perenium alone. i often find that inserting the aneros can kill the great 'chair' feelings i have going at the beginning of a session as it distracts me and sort of 'brings me back to earth', where as perenium stimulation doesnt have the same effect. i had actually been thinking that sitting on a large marble or something to that effect might do the trick but never actually went for it.

secondly... im wondering if any cradle owners might have opinions on the subject of making one myself? the cradle doesnt seem quite as technically brilliant in design as the aneros and i think i could quite easily get my hands on a tough brick of foam. do you think this feat might be possible? i hate the idea of shelling out a bunch of cash yet again as my 'prostate' fees seem to be getting up there!

any futher input would be great. hope everyone is still having an 'awe'some time!

me

Hi Enemagra,

I have not been using the cradle so much anymore. Initially I had some really great experiences with it, but then it started to give me a numb feeling rather than pleasure, so I slacked off on using it. I'll probably pick it up again soon to give it another try. When I think back to my first tries with the Aneros it was sort of the same thing. I didn't really have that much success with the Aneros early on, but then when I started using it again a year or so later it really took off for me.

I can understand you wanting to try something homemade. I used to do that myself for pressure in that area. I used certain things to press and would sit on certain objects. I actually had some great waves doing that sort of thing, but one must be careful. I would often end up sore if the objects I was using were too hard. For me, sitting on certain things like the handle of a plastic comb and putting heavy pressure in and around those areas led to some great dry orgasms, but I do wonder if it is now the cause of some of my back problems. It's not entirely impossible that I threw something out of line there.

So, as far as recommending the Cradle, I guess I'm feeling 50/50 about it now. I have had some nice orgasms with it, but then it's like everything else. It comes and goes. Sometimes my body is responsive to it and other times not so much.

It would be interesting to know if Pan and Darwin are still using it and what their thoughts are on it currently.

Good luck and have fun!

i also have put it aside for a time. i did so because my old pain issues seem to have come back, so i gave both the cradle and the aneros a rest.

i've brought the aneros back and will do so w/ the cradle soon.

i still really like the cradle. it gives a different experience than the aneros and can be deployed in different ways.

i do think you need to be a little cautious about putting too much pressure on the front hump.

about making a home made one, i think that seriously underestimates the cleverness of the cradle design.

darwin

I have started using the cradle and at first it made me sore. I stopped using it for a short time. I tried using it again while reading at this site and it helped because I started feeling sensations that were almost as intense when I use the aneros. I recently purchased the Progasm and I enjoy it tremendously. l can't say at this writing if the cradle equals the aneros but it gets pretty close. One thing that I have to say is this site is giving us men the freedom to enjoy our bodies without criticism.

I experienced some soreness with the prostate cradle from sitting on it too much.... it's difficult not to! Get up slowly afterward to maintain that "delicious" afterglow collin!

Now I take more breaks or use cushioning for long sessions or I alternate massage with my trusted mgx aneros, fingers, etc. -- even sitting on a tightly rolled up towel when I'm in a "softer" mood. Sometimes sitting on the floor + mental + is enough to trigger waves of pleasure... Variety is the best spice!

After reading about it here, I decided to give the cradle a try. I have to say that I'm quite impressed. I used a tempurpedic pillow under the cradle and I've yet to get sore. I've experienced much the same feelings as the Aneros and have been able to achieve Super-O's as well.

I highly recommend it to others.

tBall

I got a Cradle a week ago and get almost as much pleasure from it as from the Helix, the major exception being the absence of direct prostate stimulation. Nevertheless it is easy to reach mini-O's with it. It's chief advantage is the ease of use. I'm still working out the padding problem. Surprisingly, I find that more padding gives greater pleasure and comfort than less. I think most Aneros owners will find the Prostate Cradle a valuable addition to their bag of pleasures.

Enjoy
Marmot