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04/18/2023 9:33 am
Hello,
I started my quest for the prostate orgasm about 1.5 years ago and came very far but did not reach a Dry-O or Super-O yet. At the moment I am convinced the main problem holding me back is a too low overall level of arousal or the lack of keeping/building arousal during my sessions. Stimulating my prostate with the Aneros (Eupho) feels very pleasurable by now and I already had strong pleasure waves, mini-Os, involuntaries, shivering and floating/melting sensations. But after inserting the Aneros I lose arousal partially and completely lose the ability to get excited by watching porn or thinking about a strong naughty fantasy (e.g. me having sex with a woman) and can not build pleasure beyond a certain level. It feels like prostate play activates a new computer program in my brain which deactivates the traditional arousal/orgasm program, but this new program is driven by stimulation only and has an empty arousal library / brain feedback loop. Even thinking about having the next Aneros session does not lead to anticipation or arousal compared to imagining going to have sex or to masturbate. Maybe deep down there is a mental blockage related to enjoying anal pleasure? So to say, I haven’t found a substitute naughty fantasy or something to fuel arousal that matches anal play yet.
To increase arousal otherwise I tried supplements, erotic literature, porn, toys like a chastity cage, nipple play but non gave me a proper boost. So I came up with the idea to increase arousal by longer pausing between ejaculation.
For most of my life I had an average ejaculation rate of about 3 times per week. Without restrictions by my environment just following my sexual drive I probably would have had an ejaculation once a day. When forced to pause due to external factors, after one week my arousal increased significantly and became almost unbearable towards two weeks. I guess until November last year I never made more than two weeks without ejaculation.
I always felt that urge to have that many ejaculations a bit addictive and would have preferred quality over quantity. Reading some books about Taoism inspired me to reduce my ejaculation rate down to once every 10 days. By doing so – as mentioned above – I also hoped to increase arousal to help me reach a Dry-O or Super-O. I started with participating in the Mindgasm NNN challenge last year in November since I am down to less than one ejaculation per week. But by doing so, my arousal became less and less, and pausing became easier each time. By now even pausing for 10 days does no longer lead to strong arousal or an urge to have an ejaculation/orgasm. In-between ejaculation I have one or two Aneros sessions per week and avoid touching my penis. Strength of the erections and stamina did not decrease, just arousal (aka libido or sexual drive).
Due to health reasons, I have my hormone level including testosterone regularly checked and that even slightly increased over the last year, so I am sure the reason for the loss of arousal is not due to ageing or a falling hormone level.
Did anyone else experience a negative correlation between ejaculation rate and arousal? Any tips how to increase Aneros related arousal?
Best wishes
Hans
04/19/2023 12:36 am
i can relate in some way. The further I get away from my last sessoin, the lower my arousal. When one would think it should be the other way around. Not for me. I can do SR but, taking a break for a few days, is going backwards, and like starting over.
04/19/2023 1:00 pm
Semen retention or limiting ejaculation frequency never worked for me and probably never will. I ejaculate 5-7 times a week, and that's a bit less than in my younger years, but this is what what body is comfortable with. This is probably a very individual thing, because I can't believe that everyone who says semen retention works for them is experiencing a placebo effect. And the Ancients who developed Tantric theories and all that stuff surely knew what they were talking about. So it will definitely work for some or maybe even a lot of people.
If you try it and it does not work for you, well, that's the way it's going to be, and you miss out on what seems to be a pretty straightforward way to boost arousal, when it does work. For you it seems to have the opposite effect, so I would think the right thing to do would be to increase ejaculation frequency.
Your prior experience tells me that semen retention will work for you if you practice it from time to time, but not as a regular thing. Maybe ejaculating daily for 3 weeks then stopping for 4-5 days, or something similar...
Increasing arousal in an Aneros session context mainly comes from successful sessions, or at least, from noticeable progress, then you'll get aroused by the possibility of the first (or next) Super-O.
04/19/2023 3:49 pm
Move ejaculation to once every 5 days (50%).
I already had strong pleasure waves, mini-Os, involuntaries, shivering and floating/melting sensations.
You’ve already achieved dry o,just not quite believing it.
If aneros is dampening arousal,have you tried A-Less?
How much porn do you watch? Usually the distraction kills arousal. Maybe just fantasy and focus on the pelvic floor.
Controlled breathing will be useful to try to relax your mind.
Faith-Manages reacted
04/20/2023 9:19 am
It feels like prostate play activates a new computer program in my brain which deactivates the traditional arousal/orgasm program, but this new program is driven by stimulation only and has an empty arousal library / brain feedback loop.
I don't know how typical it is, but my best sessions involved no fantasy. There wouldn't even be room for one, and if there was, it would be a distraction. I think the closest I'd get to fantasizing, would be getting excited about the prospect of the orgasm just "taking" me. I think there's a lot to be said for being completely present and in the moment. Engaging with some imaginary scenario is admitting (and possibly re-enforcing) that "this isn't sexy enough", and that what I'm doing is some kind of second-rate imitation of "the real thing".
I mean, when you're having sex with someone you're attracted to, you're probably not off fantasizing about something else... because you don't have to, what you're doing is already hot enough.
Of course putting the aneros in that category is easier said than done, but it's worth experimenting with. Treat it as a solo sex experience, and mediation. I think there's a level of belief and mental-framing that can help to put your aneros session in this context. Are we so desensitized and bored with our own bodies, that we can't engage with ourselves in a way that's sexually exciting in and of itself? Now that's an interesting challenge.
Did anyone else experience a negative correlation between ejaculation rate and arousal? Any tips how to increase Aneros related arousal?
I've done semen retention a few times, and it has ups and downs. Overall I found the correlation very positive, but there are "flat-lines"; days of total sexual disinterest, more extreme than anything I'd normally experience. For me, these flat-lines come and go quickly (a day or two here or there), but other people can experience them for much longer periods. So I guess it can be a very individual thing.
I find the sensation of fullness is something I can either ignore, or reach out and feel. Sometimes in an aneros session, I find it sexy to remember I'm not "allowed" to ejaculate at the end, and what ever unresolved arousal is left, I'm just going to have to deal with. I've never been into "denial" or "teasing", but I have discovered it can be a one-player game. 😉
But then the downside of semen-retention is having ejaculation on your mind all the time, which probably isn't something you want to bring into an aneros session, unless you can bring yourself to not seek it.
I think the difficulty with the aneros is how many things need to come together at the same time. Like you need to feel prostate contact and derive pleasure from that, but also need involuntaries to kick in to sustain that pleasure, and on top of that you need to have the right mentality to keep the whole thing going. And any one of those things can be a road-block. I think sometimes it's worth mixing it up with manual prostate massage, so you're not left lying there with nothing happening because the magic hasn't shown up. That way you can work on prostate feelings and the erotic/mental side of things.
Zentai reacted
04/20/2023 2:47 pm
I must agree with Clenchy on this one. My best sessions are those I enter into with no expectations except to enjoy the ride. If I concentrate on the sensations at hand rather than a fantasy, I find the sessions are much nicer...sweeter is how I think of them. I seldom couple regular masturbation with my Aneros any more. Each one has its place, but I am surprised at how much time I spend with my Aneros. Sometimes I even fall asleep with it in when I reach a particularly satisfying valley between wave peaks.
Topic starter
04/21/2023 1:24 pm
Hallo,
If aneros is dampening arousal,have you tried A-Less?
How much porn do you watch? Usually the distraction kills arousal. Maybe just fantasy and focus on the pelvic floor.Controlled breathing will be useful to try to relax your mind.
I tried A-Less and achieved slight pleasure but not nearly the level the Eupho gives me. Not even p-waves. But I continue practising.
No porn in combination with Aneros and very few porn (3 to 4 times a year) with masturbation.
Best wishes
Hans
04/21/2023 11:21 pm
Some of my best sessions came a day or two after an ejaculation. Honestly I've found that sometimes waiting for a while to ejaculate has led to worse aneros sessions. My libido will be high, but the aneros session will be a dud. I've found that for me it seems best to wait 2 to 3 days.
I will say that my fantasies are different when using the aneros vs not using it. When not using it, like you I like to fantasize about a woman. when i use the aneros I have aneros fantasies, however when the pleasure builds, the fantasies go away and my focus is on the pleasure.
Try not to see the aneros as a replacement for your other sexual interests. See it as an addition. If you want to fantasize about women and have a traditional orgasm, do that. If you want to have an aneros session, do that. There are no rules. I know a lot of people like to set guidelines, but in my opinion their rules are tailored for what they like, or what's worked for them. You need to find what works for you.
Another piece of advice. An aneros session can be about waves. You may have a pleasurable experience, and have it fall off and find yourself thinking it's over, and feel let down. I've found however that if I wait, say 10, 15, 20 minutes, a wave will start building again, and be better than the first. When you come to expect this, and relax for it, I've found that the waves can start coming closer together. So just because you think it's "over", try just relaxing for a little bit and see if things start to fire up again.
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