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I never get any sensations from using a MGX Classic (owned for a year) or either of the two Peridises. I'm wondering if my emotional state is a factor.

For years I've been unhappy about my life. I'm not "depressed": I'm high-energy at my job, I swim a half-mile five days a week, and so on. But I live with a low-grade despair that's more or less always in the background.

Could my emotions be undermining prostate sensations? Or do I just need to get a model that is longer or thicker?


   
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I'm no shrink but do believe that one's personality traits might have an effect on how we each respond to intense pleasure.

My own Myers-Briggs scores reflect a very Controlling personality with a low emphasis on how I just go with the flow and allow my Feelings to lead my responses to pleasure.

After nearly a year into my Aneros Journey I began a series of readings to explore topics I'd long neglected as, "too touchy feely." Increased acceptance and joy soon followed.

I like the "mindfulness" appraoch to a session.... just live in the moment.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/8750.Jon_Kabat_Zinn


   
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Thanks, rook.


   
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Or do I just need to get a model that is longer or thicker?

Generally speaking, bigger models don't necessarily mean more or better sensations. The sensation-generating side is not the bottleneck anyway! It's your brain and nervous system that must recognize the sensations as something arousing that can feed an arousal-feedbackloop. These sensations are already there, but they are not recognized. That's why this whole process is called rewiring, because you brain must build new pathways. In my opinion, smaller devices are even better for that than bigger ones, because they force you to listen to the slightest spark of sensation. Big devices may give you more distinct sensations, but that may mislead you to fall for the well known traditional approach in which bigger and faster strokes lead to a reliable buildup. But that's not what you are looking for (and it won't work).

BUT: trying a new toy has it's own magic. It's new, it's shiny, maybe this is the one. Like with new partners, we project our hopes and dreams on it and since this journey is like 90% mental, this may be enough for you to get things going. Furthermore, a different touch of your prostate may really make a difference. Although all of aneros devices follow (more or less) the same design approach, they fell very different once inserted.

So, to come to a conclusion: getting a new device may make a big difference, but that's is far from certain.

For years I've been unhappy about my life. I'm not "depressed": I'm high-energy at my job, I swim a half-mile five days a week, and so on. But I live with a low-grade despair that's more or less always in the background.
I had this too in my teenage years and early 20s. In german we call this "Weltschmerz". A word so to the point that it was not translated but became a borrowed word in the englisch language. It seems to be a common trait of humans just like the drive for discovery and adventure.

Could my emotions be undermining prostate sensations?

That can surely be, or rather: you can not exclude this. But you said, you never felt any sensations so far - for me that sounds more like a general rewiring problem. And that's rather a mindset thing than a pure emotional thing. When you start a session, you have to really want it, have to be horny and yet relaxed. From my experience, weltschmerz sadness is far away in those moments and comes to me rather in my quit, pondering moments when I'm not occupied with anything.

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Thank you, Unfug.

I've read about this idea before in a post called (I believe) "You are already rewired." I followed the recommendations of lying fully clothed and without the Aneros or any stimulation other then mental arousal, and simply getting in touch with my physical sensations between my navel and genitals. All I felt was a dull ache in my groin, a sexual frustration.

I then put on some videos of women masturbating and listened to it while still clothed and aless. I slowed down and observed physical sensations. They were slightly stronger, but the same unpleasant dull ache.

Perhaps you're thinking that the ache was the beginning of a Super-O, but it certainly was nothing like what I've seen described and it wasn't even pleasant.

I'm stumped!

~Dramatist


   
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Dramatist, you sound so much like me. You described me almost to the "T".
Even the swimming, as I finally learned how to swim 2 years ago and have not stopped since. I swim about the same distance sometimes a little more.

These other guys are more experts than me in the re-wiring, so I would just like to share some associated experience.

I started with helix syn and did not put much practice into the self awareness techniques of relaxation.
I then returned my helix, out of guilt of usage as my intent was only for prostate therapy (my grandfather died of prostate cancer). I then fell into the influence and bought another helix and eupho syn. I did not get any sensation from the eupho, and the helix syn was getting better as I was trying a little to relax and become in tuned with the sensations, before again I rid myself of them. Don't get me wrong I am a person in tune with my body, just not my sensual side apparently.
Then again I ordered another aneros; the Progasm Jr. I read reviews on the Progasm lines and like some of the posters above, did not want to level up to larger aneros. I always believe bigger does not mean better for me. After reading about the Progasms and the difference in sizes, I read the Progasm Jr was made for those that may have a lower prostate. I felt the the aneros I had before especially the eupho syn was to big and not hitting my prostate.

After much thought I decided to purchase the Progasm Jr. When it arrived I tried it and it went in with no problems like the other aneros. Now to share my experience with why the Progasm Jr has been the one for me so far.

I decided to just lay down and relax for about an hour with some massage music I use in my massage business (The professional kind), and focused on breathing and imagery of my core (abdomen, groin, rectum).
I would sync my breathing with my anal contractions and not even focus on the P-Jr.
Within that hour I would gets some sensations but I was focused on just relaxing.
I was starting to get in tune with how a sensation would work its way throughout the area, from where the head would rub against my prostate.
I then realized that the P-Jr was in contact with my prostate way better than the helix and eupho syn, and that my prostate must be lower.
That night I had more pleasure sensations and what I think we're slight dry orgasms.
One night I just slept with it in and not have a aneros session, but to let it work my prostate. I did not have any orgasms but boy it must have given my rectal muscles a work out, as the next morning when I wanted to remove it my rectum did not want to release it. I thought "It is true, these aneros do make your sphincters stronger". I had to breathe and make some contractions to warm up the muscles to release it and I was finally able to push it out.

And of course you guessed it, I disposed of that one too.
Now I want my prostate massager again for the therapy and sphincter exercise, and sadly for the self indulgence of the sensations. I am so bad, but I guess it is one of our coping mechanisms. I am sure you totally understand.

Progasm Jr is what I am going to be getting again.

That being said about my P-Jr experience tells me your aneros may be to big for your prostate. Although I believe the Progasm Jr was designed for Asian males who had lower prostates (think I read it somewhere on this site), that does discount that you and I may have the same disposition in our prostate position.

My reccommendation is to try the Progasm Jr and use relaxing music rather than porn to get in tune with your core area. Being a high energy person you tend to see the road ahead as having no ending. That's how I now treat a aneros session. I expect to not feel anything pleasurable for about an hour, and during that time I focus fusing the mental imagery to the slight sensations to work on the re-wiring. I keep doing this (Adult ADD so the road ahead goes forever for me) unless I get to sleepy an have to call it a night or the pleasure takes over. No Super O yet, but I

I hope this helps as your self-description was like looking in a mirror for me.


   
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Yes, yes, yes. I think absolutely that emotional state has a bearing on the experience of MMO.

I think that it has a lot to do with emotional gating. I think that Arthur Janov's theories (Primal Therapy) give a very plausible explanation for this. Gating theory in its traditional form relates to the processing of physical pain and is quite well accepted, Arthur Janov uses gating to explain the repression of emotional pain from the deeper brain structures (which he classifies as first, second and third level Pain corresponding to specific brain structures and stages of emotional development) which leads to neurosis - depression, anxiety, even psychosis, or the type of general dysthymia you describe. The underlying emotional trauma, which we all have to some extent unless we have the perfect parents and upbringing, is too powerful for us to consciously process and it is held down or 'gated' from conciousness by our own coping mechanisms or neurosis, our ego, which drives our behaviour. A fascinating theory.

Apply this to the aneros and it's easy to see how when we are down or depressed or whatever our gating mechanism is fully engaged and working hard to protect our concious minds from emotional pain. It therefore also gates pleasure which is, in origin at least, a lower brain function.

Personally I find this to be the case.


   
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I then realized that the P-Jr was in contact with my prostate way better
than the helix and eupho syn, and that my prostate must be lower.

How did you know that the Progasm Jr. was in contact with your prostate?

Please tell me about the sensation.

I've actually inserted a lubed finger in my rectum to feel my prostate (through the rectal wall, of course) and didn't know what I was looking for.


   
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Emotional gating: I'll keep a lookout for it. Thank you.


   
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