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Hi. I am new to prostate massage. I have a few questions.


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Hi. Sorry if my English is crude. It's not my primary language.

Backgroud :

My grandfather had a prostate cancer. And my father, who is very active and otherwise healthy for his age, has been diagnosed with prostatitis.

I'm in my 20s. I am around healthy weight, and I have had no major health problems so far. But I'm worried that prostate disease runs in the family and I might start to develop the same problem.

I read some articles online on prostate health and disease prevention, which says the following pretty much all the time : "We do not know what exactly causes the problem. So eat healthy / quit smoking / exercise."

I guess I did that part by daily jogging, never smoking in the first place, and limiting my red meat consumption to one serving a week. But I am looking for something more proactive, and it seems prostate massage could be one.

In googling a bit about the practice, I read some enthusiastic blog posts that praised it as a must-do for men. But Wikipedia, WebMD, and Mayo Clinic, which have been the go-to places for medical questions, don't seem to share the same faith in its effectiveness.

There also were some articles warning about the risk using scary words like gangrene, infection, blood poisoning like this one: http://ezinearticles.com/?Prostate-Massage-and-Milking-the-Prostate---Risks-and-Dangers---Nurses-Guide&id=2215893

Overall I'm a bit leaning towards trying at least for a couple months to see how it works. I'm hoping that hearing from people who actually practices prostate massaging could help me decide.

Questions :

1. Are adverse effects such as internal bleeding or hemorrhoid common enough to worry? Is it easily preventable?

2. For younger people who is yet to develop prostate problems, has regular massaging provided any health benefit?

3. For those who had existing prostate problems when started out, has it improved your prostate health?

4. One post from non-English website described the experience as very addictive and far more pleasurable than regular sexual stimulation, saying that there is no "going back". As a straight, and a little high libido person this scares me in a couple of ways. Does it get sexual even if you don't intend to? Have you experienced change in your sexuality?

5. Does it cause loosening or loss of control of anal muscle over time? (When I jokingly brought up about prostate massaging to my friend he said "No way. Do you want to wear a diaper in your 40s?")

6. I am an Asian of smaller-than-average body size. Should it affect choice of the size of massager? Which model did you use at first?

7. Is vibration feature recommended for begginers? Some say it is helpful for first time users, and some others say it's for people who are used to prostate stimulation.

I am sorry that I kind of let out a lot of questions first time. Some articles I read already provided differing answers. I feel like I would be more reassured with personal replies from actual people.


   
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Questions :

1. Are adverse effects such as internal bleeding or hemorrhoid common enough to worry? Is it easily preventable?
Not common as the Aneros is inert. It sorts itself out

2. For younger people who is yet to develop prostate problems, has regular massaging provided any health benefit?
Too old to comment

3. For those who had existing prostate problems when started out, has it improved your prostate health?
Yes made a huge difference, now no problems.

4. One post from non-English website described the expherience as very addictive and far more pleasurable than regular sexual stimulation, saying that there is no "going back". As a straight, and a little high libido person this scares me in a couple of ways. Does it get sexual even if you don't intend to? Have you experienced change in your sexuality?
It is different and should not interfere with normal desire, but may increase them.

5. Does it cause loosening or loss of control of anal muscle over time? (When I jokingly brought up about prostate massaging to my friend he said "No way. Do you want to wear a diaper in your 40s?")
The opposite, Aneros makes for very good pelvic floor muscle control. I think your friend was referring to oversized inserts. All Aneros products are of a safe size. But you would start with the small or medium ones.

6. I am an Asian of smaller-than-average body size. Should it affect choice of the size of massager? Which model did you use at first?
Difficult. My thoughts either an SGX (small) or a Helix SYN (softer medium)

7. Is vibration feature recommended for begginers? Some say it is helpful for first time users, and some others say it's for people who are used to prostate stimulation.
No, I suggest non vibrating so the prostate can become more naturally aware of the Aneros.
I hope this helps.


   
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@essq47
Hopfully I can help a little, especialy on younger side section (Im only 17.) So I've been using aneros for about 6 months and to be honest, for no other reason that sexual pleasure. I have had very good results considering I've started to have orgasms revently, which most I think at this point do not. Anyways, being inexperienced and unaware to any of the health benefits, I can only answer a couple questions based pff of personal experiances.

1. Are adverse effects such as internal bleeding or hemorrhoid common enough to worry? Is it easily preventable?

Unfortunatly, aneros caused me a minor case of external (thank god) hemorrhoids after about my 6th session l. I do not know why I got them, but they itched and were painfull for weeks. There were two more flare ups whenever I tried aneros again after they healed (I thought;) but after time I became accustomed to aneros and now they're gone finally. Of, course the little bastards halted my development and staggered my beliefs in aneros, but it was all worth it in the end. The orgasm really are brilliant xD! So yes, hemorrhoids do happen. However, how common they are, I do not know.

One post from non-English website described the experience as very addictive and far more pleasurable than regular sexual stimulation, saying that there is no "going back". As a straight, and a little high libido person this scares me in a couple of ways. Does it get sexual even if you don't intend to? Have you experienced change in your sexuality?

Haha, oh you are in for some suprises. I am very much straight and have absolutely no problem using aneros, I guess I'm just comfortable with my sexuality. Anyways, YES! It does become very sexual, and if you want it to be sexual it is 10x better. In my opinion atleast. From reading around on the forum, I've come to the conclusion that most people don't maintain an erection a whole lot during their sessions. I however, which I don't know is odd or not, nearly maintain an erection the whole time. Its all very arousing, just have an open mind and have fun. Aneros, has given me knowlage and wisdom over the sexual side of my body and how my brain works in correlation. So YES! I think overall, I have much more pleasure all around, whatever it may be. You also last longer ;D.

5. Does it cause loosening or loss of control of anal muscle over time? (When I jokingly brought up about prostate massaging to my friend he said "No way. Do you want to wear a diaper in your 40s?")

Yeah.. this one actually bothers me alot. I think most will disagree with me, but you absolutely do loosen up down there. I just think most members around are just slightly older (no offense) and don't really pay attention to such feeble matters. I absolutely have noticed it loosen down there. I have actualy had a friend mention to me how my farts sound loose and referenced them to a "broken muffler." This of course was extremely embarrassing, and now I'm freaking self conscious about it. Yes this seems childish, but it's just how it is. But whatever, I'd go for helix syn. Good size and mobility. Lots of pressure.

Not a problem and I wouldn't be worried about asking so many questions! I've come to learn that the people here are the most helpful and unjudging people you could talk to and really know their stuff. Post away, everyone is glad to help.

Now I know it doesn't seem to now that I didn't have the most positive of answers, more like personal experiances atleast; but believe me when I say it is worth it. There undoubtedly will be some bumps and you will loose faith. But you gaon so much! Knowlage! Maybe some wisdom! Self controll/awareness! And pleasure! LOTS of pleasure! And health suff too I guess.To earn money you have to loose money.

Have fun!
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5. Does it cause loosening or loss of control of anal muscle over time? (When I jokingly brought up about prostate massaging to my friend he said "No way. Do you want to wear a diaper in your 40s?"
Mmm, now usually using an Aneros improves pelvic floor muscle tone. Most users apply the kegel technique from time to time that actually strengthen the PC and the BC muscles. Electro stimulators are used medically to do that also but the Aneros is so much more enjoyable!!
Also
1. 'Rhoids may appear because they were there but no noticed. Aneros usually gets rid of them as the previous post said. Right Lubricant is very, very important. Many folk have problems with the normal water based lubes.


   
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In googling a bit about the practice, I read some enthusiastic blog posts that praised it as a must-do for men. But Wikipedia, WebMD, and Mayo Clinic, which have been the go-to places for medical questions, don't seem to share the same faith in its effectiveness.
There also were some articles warning about the risk using scary words like gangrene, infection, blood poisoning like this one: http://ezinearticles.com/?Prostate-M...ide&id=2215893

It is true there have not been many scientific studies about the therapeutic effects of regular gentle prostate massage. Most of the information we have is of an anecdotal nature. FYI, High Island Health LLC is the parent company & manufacturer of the Aneros ® brand of prostate massagers. This patented device was originally and is currently offered for sale as the Pro-State ® line of massagers on the High Island Health website. The HIH website is primarily oriented toward the health aspects and benefits of prostate massage in accord with Oriental medicine for prostate related issues. I encourage you to check out that site to learn more about the health benefits. You may also be interested in reading about the ongoing Columbia Medical School study using the Pro-State massagers. That website also provides links to additional information on prostate health, the Aneros® website, by contrast, is oriented toward the sensual, pleasure aspects of prostate massage.
While there is a slight risk of/to the alluded dangers you've read about, those are mostly associated with men who have employed overly vigorous massage methods and/or had unhealthy prostate conditions to begin with. Normal healthy men need have no fear using Aneros devices when used in accord with the manufacturers instructions.

1. Are adverse effects such as internal bleeding or hemorrhoid common enough to worry? Is it easily preventable?

There is no need to worry, regular, gentle use of these massagers will probably improve your resistance to the development of hemorrhoids. As @isvara noted, be sure to use plenty of a non-irritating lubrication in your Anerosessions. See the HIH Peristal models (Aneros Peridise lineup is equivalent) developed specifically for hemorrhoidal treatment therapy.

2. For younger people who is yet to develop prostate problems, has regular massaging provided any health benefit?

As I previously noted, there aren't any long term scientific studies about this so we really don't know. However, there is statistical evidence that Asian men have lower incidences of prostate cancer and prostatitis than their western male counterparts. Some people believe the wider accepted practice of prostate massage in oriental health regimes is a factor in this statistic.

3. For those who had existing prostate problems when started out, has it improved your prostate health?

At age 59, I had begun noticing the effects of BPH on my urine flow prior to starting regular Aneros use. I'm now 68 and can attest to improved urinary flow without use of medications, this I attribute to regular Aneros use (again reference Columbia Medical School study).

4. One post from non-English website described the experience as very addictive and far more pleasurable than regular sexual stimulation, saying that there is no "going back". As a straight, and a little high libido person this scares me in a couple of ways. Does it get sexual even if you don't intend to? Have you experienced change in your sexuality?

Any behavior which provides pleasure by activating the release of dopamine in the brain can become addictive and prostate massage can certainly be very pleasurable. Many men go through an infatuation phase during their early "rewiring" period but this usually abates as one incorporates this practice into their routine lifestyle. You can get some further information about this from the Psychological and Managing addiction sections of the Aneros WIKI. Aneros use will not change your inherent sexuality, however, it may bring to conscious awareness previously sub-conscious thoughts, feelings and desires. This is a frequent discovery of men as their self knowledge grows. Please also read the Homophobia paragraph in the Misconceptions section of the Aneros WIKI.

5. Does it cause loosening or loss of control of anal muscle over time?

NO! Regular use of your massager will actually improve your urinary and rectal continence by strengthening and toning your pelvic floor muscles. Bowel incontinence can be caused by over stretching the anal muscles from insertion of overly large objects. Aneros devices are relatively quite small and will not exceed the elastic limits of your anal muscles thus avoiding muscle tearing and its negative consequences. Over time you will develop the ability to more thoroughly relax and contract your pelvic floor muscles. For 'tight assed' men who carry stress tension in their bodies this can be an effective therapy to help relieve that stress.

6. I am an Asian of smaller-than-average body size. Should it affect choice of the size of massager? Which model did you use at first?

The Aneros SGX-Classic model (identical to the High Island Health PS-2 model) is the smallest of the Aneros prostate massagers and was originally developed specifically for men of smaller stature (shorter than 5'-7" {170 cm}). However, it has been subsequently found that men's individual anatomical variations can differ enough that most men can accommodate any of the Aneros models but will find that one particular model works more effectively than the others. Unfortunately, there is no way to predict which model will be most effective for a particular individual. In regards to choosing a first Aneros model, I recommend that you first read the following : The Best Aneros model is...

7. Is vibration feature recommended for beginners? Some say it is helpful for first time users, and some others say it's for people who are used to prostate stimulation.

I do NOT recommend new users employ any vibration generating devices in their early 'rewiring' phase as it tends to mask the subtle sensations initially generated by one's prostate and over time desensitizes and temporarily numbs the prostate. Once you are quite familiar with your own prostate sensations then intermittent use of vibratory devices can add intensity to your practice. Good Vibes to You !
P.S. I sent you an introductory message with some additional hints and tips to get you started here. Click on your 'Messages' button in the Forums to retrieve it


   
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Regarding question #5, for me, it's a definite No. I've had a great deal of sensitivity loss due to nerve damage at the S1 to L4, and as such, I have trouble feeling how much/well I'm pooping. After surgery, I pretty much had to sit down to pee because I had difficulty keeping from having a BM while standing. But after regular overnighter sessions with various Aneros devices, that's not a problem; the muscles are well-toned and strong. In fact, I now have some difficulty passing a stool at times, causing constipation, which is a whole other topic. Actually, when I have a particularly productive session, my BM's are very good.


   
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