Helpful tools for reaching Orgasms- Free mindgasm access in No nut November

Yes, I appreciate their generosity and this year I think I will try to go along with their 30-day challenge!

I am planning to give it another go.  I started this journey last year, still not much accomplished but I'd like to think I can enjoy some pleasure if I abstain and only do these nightly mindgasm lessons.  I'll TRY to give up the porn this time too....

Can they be done with a toy in or should they not involve a toy until the end?

@hankey01 giving up porn is always rewarding!  I tried with an Aneros in yesterday and today did the exercises without.  I figure alternating days might be a good way to compare/contrast, and anyway I'm always reading that you don't get to the Super-O without learning to do certain contractions at different times.  Might as well try it and see what works!

I mention this in a post I made in the Newbie Nook - but I’m joining in on the NNN as an experiment as well.  It will be a challenge - I’ve not been a daily porn user but a couple times a week for sure and was noticing I was getting kind of desensitized to it so… a good reset.  As well as the TO.  

The muscle control is trickier than I thought it would be, differentiating between center, base and source.  But it’s been an amusing distraction while at the office to practice during the day ;). 

I’m pretty clumsy at it for the moment.  

I’ve started out days 1 and 2 without a toy.  Just listening and doing the exercises.  Think that will be my strategy going forward as well.  I did after finishing todays mindgasm session treat myself to an anerosession.  I had a little time and thought what the heck let’s try some different movements and contractions and see what happens.  Even two sessions in just moving differently was a game changer.  Totally different feelings and had my first orgasm.  Maybe I’ll get used to it and there are a lot of other factors at play but you can see why I’m gonna keep toys as a treat post mindgasm sessions when I can.  

Wow so I don't know what it was about it but I had the best Aless of my life last night doing yesterday's Mindgasm sessions.  Really intense pleasure waves, rock-hard erection, I couldn't even complete the exercises because I had no control over my anal muscles and my PC muscles were spasming so pleasurably.  I have a feeling that this time will be different for me, if I actually buckle down and do the exercises every day!

I can’t speak for everyone but NNN is something I don’t/won’t participate in. Hey, if it’s your thing then good on you. But masturbation/sex is a big stress reliever for me. And since I’m not making any headway on the Aneros/prostate orgasm side of things, it’s essentially the only “relief” I get. And masturbation doesn’t always have to be associated with porn. It can be fantasizing , some chick I saw at the gym, etc. you get the idea.

@hesnot Had your first orgasm?!  Good for you!!  I may have to use a toy after a session.

I haven't looked at porn or touched my dick since Oct31.  The last Mindgasm session was nice and afterwards I played (aless) for about 20 minutes.  AT times it was feeling pretty good and I could see that orgasm COULD be possible aless!  Better than some of my Aneros sessions. 

As for participating in the NNN, my thinking is, if I don't touch my dick and ONLY get pleasure from prostate stimulation, EVENTUALLY my withholding won't last and I can break that barrier!

@faith-manages wow great to hear you are enjoying so much!  Maybe I should keep going aless for a while.

@fml I feel ya, bro.  Last few times I have done Mindgasm, I have also had a THC gummy.  Pleasure in my belly wells up very nicely, but inevitably I feel like caressing my nipples.  Once I do that, I cannot help but stroke to a powerful ejaculation.  Sorry, not sorry!

@fml I think it's generally recommended for Anerosessions to abstain from ejaculating as well, not just Mindgasm.  At least for several days.  Though Mindgasm's encouragement to kick the porn habit is a worthy one, I'm aware that going cold-turkey is easier said than done sometimes.  Giving up ejaculations is just as hard, if not harder.  But then I've been training for a few years. 

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And masturbation doesn’t always have to be associated with porn.

Very true!  It doesn't really have to be anything visual at all, even.  I've been masturbating without the assistance of porn for years now.  I rarely backslide, but it's like junk food, I really don't want it and don't see the benefit, I want a homecooked meal with healthy ingredients instead! 

I still think building up your sexual energy through semen retention would be helpful; it's not like it's required to do Mindgasm, but usually you'd have to pay for some of the more advanced lessons.  The benefit of trying during NNN is that they've opened up access to everything, so why not take advantage? 

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The benefit of trying during NNN is that they've opened up access to everything, so why not take advantage? 

I don't even know if I did it right (i.e. I didn't download the Mindgasm app), but I found the "Part 1" video on YouTube and made more progress with that 17 minute video (and no Aneros) than I have with six weeks of whatever I'm doing (or trying to do) here. I'll continue to keep at it, but this is a long and frustrating journey I've embarked upon. My only motivating factor is all the stories that I've read here.

Ah, yeah. I might try that instead. My only complaint with Mindgasm is that annoying AI voice. Every time I felt I was relaxing it's just odd to hear a computer-generated voice to say "it's normal to feel your penis shake a bit." I mean, I nearly broke out in laughter. Not exactly the mindset, but then again that was on the YouTube version - maybe it'll be different if I use their actual web site.

One thing I did "learn" or notice was the big picture. Please correct me if I'm wrong (and there are plenty who will, but that's fine) but the way I see this whole thing (Aneros/Mindgasm, etc.) is this: It's basically teaching yourself/body to utilize the PC and sphincter muscles and use them independently. Once you "master" that, it's about using them to the point where they become a bit "tired" (for lack of a better term) and, hence, the prostate is stimulated either by the Aneros or your own contractions. That, coupled with deep breathing and the ability to use these muscles is what it's all about. Obviously the better you are at controlling this process, the more successful you'll be (if you equate success with an orgasm). 

I mean, this would explain why there aren't many/if any "instant" successes by just inserting the device. I see now why this is more of a process as it takes time to develop and utilize these muscles to achieve the desired result (yeah, yeah, I know...you aren't supposed to be working towards a goal, but let's be honest - we all are).

That the general gist of things?

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I mean, this would explain why there aren't many/if any "instant" successes by just inserting the device. I see now why this is more of a process as it takes time to develop and utilize these muscles to achieve the desired result (yeah, yeah, I know...you aren't supposed to be working towards a goal, but let's be honest - we all are).

Some people have pretty meteoric successes!  I haven't been one of them, sadly.  I have been at it for 5 years and while there has been steady progress it's been much less than I'd like.  And because I hate exercise, I've been pretty bad at doing my Kegels, so at the very least I see Mindgasm as encouragement to do better.  Hope you found it already but if not it's at mindgasm.net

Boys glad you guys are enjoying the MG

Please spread the news of this free month if you have other sources. 

@clenchy it's not like you have to do all of it!

Had never used mindgasam but wow. Lesson 6 the internal flame. To get the feelings without having to contract. Which allows you just to concentrate on breathing and takes away all anxiety and stress.

I would recommend this for people looking for the super O with the aneros. As much of it is allowing no contraction while the aneros is in to let it move around freely.

@hankey01  Thanks!  It was a definite surprise - the mindgasm exercises have made me more aware of the muscle groups and when I find a level and method of contraction that is working I'm better able to sustain that for a bit.... I'm still very much a newbie but it's gratifying to have some success for sure.  I've since continued with mindgasm and had an anerosession after another one and managed a second DO.  This week I had my best session ever... first DO was really good but my body was sort of on fire/electric so kept going and had my absolute best DO yet ... and it kept going for awhile... I needed to kind of get on with some other things but was struggled to actually end it ... so I removed the Helix figuring that would calm things down but ... my body said different and out of curiosity I started gentle contractions and had a third O this time Aless..  Still had to kind of fight to get up and get moving and thought several times as I was tidying up that if I could maybe have another one.... it took some time for my body to calm down but I had a hop in my step the rest of the day for sure.  I will say that one curious thing was I was consciously trying to put the brakes on, so alert etc.... and it was quite difficult.  Perhaps something to do with not really focusing on the session oddly kept it going?  Secondly - after decades and decades of TO masturbation I really expected the usual pattern of build up, release and then relax (and smoke a cigarette 🙂 - not really but the cliche seemed appropriate).  I kept expecting the natural let down but the statements about no refractory period are, at least in my experience, 100% accurate... definitely a different experience.  

I don't want to sound like a braggart because I know how hard some have worked on their journey and mine has been maybe 7-8 months.  And a lot of that was, certainly initially, filled with a level of some frustration trying to figure things out.  But I've tried to keep a positive outlook so I mostly share this to encourage others to not throw in the towel.  I've tried to dissect what was similar in successful sessions to of course replicate them moving forward.  But it's been a little challenging - I have shared some thoughts in the Newbie's Nook.  So many variables to consider, and what seems to me at this stage at least to be a fairly narrow set of things that have to line up.  I will say the more I "work" for a result the less success I've had.  The more consistent I am both with sessions and starting them with no real goal in mind other than to see what provides pleasure the better my outcomes have been.  

@clenchy I agree with this assessment, I've found it a lot more difficult to control the "center" muscles than the "base" muscles particularly independently.  I feel like I can contract the base all the way to my navel (well not really but hope you get the point) but the center feels much weaker.  I think some of that is the relative possible "travel" of that contraction contributes to it feeling weaker, but mine definitely is.  For me working on that control has been a positive aspect of the NNN mindgasm supplement to my prior efforts.

@hesnot well I am jealous!   I am just over a year in now and cannot get your dry orgasms!   Admittedly I havent been 100% committed to the daily lessons asi just dont have the time for all of them every day.  Some are way too long, but I do what I can when I can.

I do get some pleasant sensations from the sessions, but just nowhere close to getting an orgasm.  In my year of aneros sessions I have only managed 2 HFWOs, both with weed involved.  I don't like smoking weed at all but it seems that's the only way I can get anywhere except for teasing myself.

I finished yesterday's exercise this mornings before getting up and thought I'd try my progasm afterwards and hoped for some good feelings.  Not much was happening and I was feeling frustrated so I jerked off. 🙁  

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It's the first time I've seen it actually work rather than having it feel pleasurable in a non-distinct way, or finding it vaguely promising.

That's great!  I have felt that a couple times this month myself: once during a Mindgasm session (I think it was exercise day #2 on the 13th) and then a day after a particularly thorough prostate massage on the 15th I felt shockwaves for about a day afterward...strange because during the Anerosession itself there wasn't much sensation to speak of.  Strange how you can think nothing is happening for so long and then all of a sudden...oh my...

@hankey01 Like most things there are different perspectives - so don’t be too envious necessarily as you touch on one thing that I think has helped me, but is perhaps not enviable.  I last had sex with my wife … maybe 7-8 years ago.  Long story for another day, but our marriage is better (other than sex) than it’s been in maybe 15 years.  So I perhaps have had more incentive and desire to explore ways to still find sexual pleasure for myself than those with more active sex lives, or a more active libido that increases the desire for a TO.  

Still, mindgasm sessions aside the no TO and no porn aspects have also been generally positive for me.  Or at least a good experiment, particularly the porn as it’s helped me reinvigorate my own fantasies rather than watching a portrayal of someone else’s … I won’t say I was addicted but looked at porn 2-4 times a week and was kind of getting bored/grown numb to it.  

As for TO’s … the handful of SO’s I’ve had now are all just a little different, maybe half or a little more completely flaccid but the others included during the SO a significant erection albeit no ejaculation and it subsided somewhat quickly as the SO progressed.  But those erections, combined with no ejaculation for now 29 days, drew my attention a bit back to the TO and my penis and I was sorely tempted to end my session with a TO…. I didn’t but for the first time this month I was very much craving that release.  However, I am conflicted as I’ve made some progress re wiring and don’t want to backtrack by spending time on the physical pathways I’ve spent the past 40 years following.  Admit I’m a bit conflicted, and if I do pursue a TO I want it to be a totally separate exercise apart from an anerosession or aless session to try to keep them distinct.  Re wiring in your mid 50s is a significant hurdle already… any thoughts or tips would be most welcome!

@hesnot I'm sorry to hear about your lack of sex in your marriage.    I can see your need for other forms of pleasure.  It sounds like you have had some success with non TO's (SO is soft orgasm?).

I am over a year into my journey and still nothing close to an earth shattering prostate orgasm, just 2 HFWO's when using weed.  I just hate having to use weed in any form. 

Almost through this No Nut/ Mindgasm journey although I did break my vow and had a day of a few jerk offs.  That was a couple weeks ago.  I have had sex with my boyfriend a few times though so I don't know how that would ruin things...

Regarding the No Nut/Mindgasm journey.  This month I felt there were too many days with way too many exercises.  Not much fun..it was like a chore, and it was heard to have enough time.  Some of them were over an hour if you do them all.  Especially the last couple weeks I have been always behind.  I would say my prostate sensitivity may be slightly better.  when I see something that excites me I feel a tingle in my prostate..so that's something. 

I gave my Aneros a try last night but didn't feel much.  I honestly feel like I may get more pleasure without it.  I had one session last week where I was just playing with my center and I was feeling pretty good.  I could feel inklings of an approaching orgasm, although I am sure it would have been a wet one.  I focused by staring and the end of my hard dick and imagining the feeling was happening at the tip (which it kind of feels like).  It was feeling pretty good, but eventually died down.

One thing I do hope that helps my journey is I am able to look at my erection and stomach now and get aroused.  I lost 22 pounds in the past few months so I can see my stomach and feel good about it instead of disgusted by the fat.  Hopefully that will help me in the future if I keep it off.

@hankey01 I’ve said in the Newbie’s Nook that I’d trade progress with Super O’s (SO?  Maybe I’m using the wrong acronmym and it should be HFDO?) for more intimacy with my partner.  So I’m envious of your time with your boyfriend!  I think ideally we should all be able to have both, right?  But I obviously don’t have experience how to integrate solo play with couples play, or to what extent having an active sex life impacts progress with an Aneros or Aless.  I’m sure others can chime in with something more helpful.  

I’m behind on the Mindgasm exercises as well due to the same issue, time constraints.  I will say weeks 1-2 were helpful just the workouts and isolation of muscle groups is something I’ve never done.  But it got hard to keep up.  Contemplating continuing with a monthly for a bit to see where things go at my own pace.  

And a huge high five on the weight loss!  I’m also in the middle of that journey but am only down 5 pounds… but am working to tighten up my process!  Kudos and thanks for inspiring me to keep going!

@hesnot Yes intimacy with your partner would be best for sure.  I do hope you are able to sort that out.  I just wanted to acknowledge your quick acceptance of my 'orientation'.  I'd like to think most people here are more open to things like that, considering our willingness to stick toys up our butts. 😉  I am in my early 50's also but I didn't have a boyfriend (only had the one) until about 12 years ago so I certainly missed out on years of experiences and partners.  I was married and have had girlfriends but it was just not right for me.

Todays' mindgasm is 1 hour.  Eternal Flame.  I'm 20 minutes in and it's just been relaxing music so I'm not sure what I should be doing...probably not typing on this forum. 😉  I am heading out in a few minutes so I didn't get through it today.  🙁

Thanks about the weight loss!  And good start on the 5 pounds!  That's a great start!  I found it quite easy actually.  I have always been exercising and eating reasonably but it slowly accumulated.  I switched to light beer (I swore I never would), kept track of my calories and exercise (MyNetDiary app) and stopped snacking.  I some days I have tough cravings and feel hungry but once I am happy I'll just try to maintain.

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Can't believe day 29 and 30 were just music tracks. 😂

LOL reminds me of A Christmas Story.  "Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine"  All that waiting for a crummy commercial?!

I figured out later that if you log in, then you can access a file with instructions I think?  It was too late by then so now I'm 2 days behind.

@hankey01 I've always viewed "orientation" as a spectrum rather than fixed points and want everyone to have love, intimacy, partnership and happiness.  I'm glad you've found that even if perhaps "later" than you'd ideally have preferred.

I'm considering paying for a month or two of mindgasm to see if it helps me continue to progress like it did initially ... I'm way behind in sessions partly due to time, partly due to applying things in regular anero/aless sessions which are usually only a few times a week.  

NNN - this is a riddle.  I've not had a TO since October so... not sure if I want to get some release or continue and don't know if there is a straightforward answer to that one.  

@hesnot  I don't know the answer to your question about having a TO after a month of none..I had the same thoughts this morning (Dec 1 now).  I certainly want to get back to my VR porn and masturbation, but will it hurt any progress I have made with the Mindgasm.  Also my apologies for being too dumb to catch onto your use of 'SO'.  😉

I tried the Eternal flame lesson last night.  I have to admit it was feeling good and I could feel things tingling by doing absolutely no exercises.  The trouble is relaxing in a warm bed at the end of the day just puts me to sleep.  I got about half was through it before I turned it off to go to sleep.  After that I did keep feeling small surges of tingling I tried to grow.  It IS interesting that this is all about the mind.  No need for toys.

@hankey01 I had an empty house extra early this morning and had planned a session before my first work calls … I’ve had one super o without a toy although it was after two with one so my body was on fire already, so I’ve been working on exercises etc… in anticipation of attempting a session without an aneros.  Like you I got some nice p waves going and was really enjoying it but never crossed the bridge … so I got out my Helix and things really started to take off when the UPS guy made a delivery and rang the doorbell and the dogs went crazy … then got a text from my wife that the cleaning ladies were not arriving at noon but in the next 15 minutes or so around 9am… so that ended that and quickly!  Like you if I can sneak in a morning session that is often more satisfying than tired at the end of the day… alas.  

But to your point it is interesting to have things move along without a toy.  I’ve had a couple experiences of the “butt buzz” this past week … and tried to, within reason, kind of ride that out to see how far along I could get and found I could get some nice p waves (+).  I feel like I’m still not really there totally aless, but it does make the characterization of the toy as a facilitator rather than essential all the time ring true.  They do feel different however, so I can see using a toy for awhile even if I can achieve super o without one.  Particularly since I still am experimenting all the time with different variables, and there are so many of them to consider… why it’s a journey not a destination right?

@hesnot man that is frustrating to be so close then be interrupted!!   I know it doesn't replace the intimacy with your wife but I am jealous of your Super O's!  To me they are still a myth!  The tingles I got with the mindgasm are probably he only indication that something IS possible! 

Toys feel nice and I have been very close to orgasm many times, but they always die.  Then the 2 times with weed, that I did have HFWO's, but to me they are stimulating in a penile ejaculation way so I just don't know.  They sure felt nice and seemed to pull me into a different place for every P wave.  I just hate weed.

Maybe I'll try a toy with the eternal flame lesson and see how that goes.