Fleeting Super O

@clenchy Wow! “and then the relief you're still feeling as the first rope of semen is landing on your belly, waiting for the second squirt.” Your reply is both poetic and scintillating mixed in with informative to say the least. I appreciate the thoughts. I’ve not done marijuana for quite a few years for the same reason as yourself, and prefer pursuing my orgasmic bliss without the aid of drugs, though a little alcohol can put me in the right mood. I really don’t know, I’ve heard others say it’s right there staring at you in the face, or stop trying so hard, which I don’t really. I’ve come to accept that all there may be and enjoy it fully nonetheless. Anyway, I appreciate your thoughts.

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I am yet to experience a true full body orgasm. I can come very close, with the waves of pleasure sweeping over my pelvic region, but no orgasmic release. This can be frustrating, as my body is accustomed to penile orgasm, and can't seem to find release.

I think you may be holding on to the idea that prostate based orgasms should be equivalent to penile based ejaculatory orgasms. They are not, they are qualitatively different and the main difference is the hormonal cascade that ejaculatory orgasms elicit. The primary culprit here is the hormone prolactin whiuch initiates the refractory period and that feeling of satiation (release) you feel. Prostate based orgasms don't seem to initiate that same hormonal response and thus may make multiple orgasms possible in the same session. However, this also means that you may not get the same sense of release that you get from penile ejaculatory orgasms. 

As to expereincing a "...true full body orgasm.", you may be holding some false expectations about that, "Just Let Go !" and please read @Buster 's thread What exactly is a Super-O? to get a wider perspective of what a Super-O is in reality.

Good Vibes to You!

Hmm. Like Rumel said there is a difference between prostate and penile orgasms but I think it is more involved than that. I have been exploring many different ways to have both types of orgasms . For me the biggest difference is prostate is like riding cloud nine. Penile is like riding the rapids. With penile more intense if you do it right but way shorter. Then you have ejaculator orgasms as well which for me only happen through stroking the head of the penis. I have both a vibrator and Arcwave Ion which stimulate the penis in a different manner for me at least not causing a ejaculator orgasm unless accompanied by stroking.(The Ion makes this easy as it is open ended and if I do it right I can compound the orgasms which are wow!)

This leads me back on topic. If I stimulate myself in the same manner every time I notice I get bored causing diminished returns. I usually have to match my turn on with the way I want to be stimulated. Do I want it hard and fast I will go with a larger toy(Lovesense Edge2 or the like). Do I want something odd(Lelo Loki Wave). Do I want my hands involved I go with njoy pure wand. Do I want to enjoy all the sensations I go with Aneros.

My final point is the Eupho is level 10/10 for difficulty but provides level 10/10 orgasms for the prostate. I would say the Helix is 7/10 and the Helix Syn V is 5/10 if using vibes for difficulty. Both providing 7/10 orgasms(Higher level is possible depending on how turned on you are). So I tailor my Aneros session to how hard I want to work for it.  

In closing, it sounds like your in a rut and just need to switch it up. Try something kinky, try turning your self on in a different way, or try a different way to achieve a prostate O.

@clenchy I think you're really onto something here, Clenchy, though I'm not sure exactly where or how to jump in on a practical level, which may be the governing idea here. It "feels" as if your experiences are triggered somewhere between a conscious and unconscious level, and where those two intersect, your body orgasms in reply.

@poptrek I think you have some good suggestions, I love your analogy, "Prostate is like riding cloud nine. Penile is like riding the rapids." I'm also curious about the Arcwave Ion you mentioned. I'm amazed at the technology behind new sex toys. 

@rumel Thanks for those differences between prostate and penile orgasms. It reminds me of the great pleasure we can receive from both when we can appreciate the differences.

@clenchy What you're saying is making more and more sense. I too, am prone to tunnel-vision and "self-imposed things" which probably do function as an edge. I like the idea of visualizing what that peak of relief after an orgasm feels like: "satisfying and relieving, lower tension." I'm going to spend some time with that, without building up other self-defeating expectations. Thank you. I do appreciate those thoughts. 

I couldn't agree more with @clenchy I think it all boils down to our brains being trained from a very early age that ejaculation is the end of sex. And from a biology point of view it also reinforces that belief. In my post about having non ejaculation penis orgasms. I suggested if I should start retraining my mind as being satisfied from orgasm instead of ejaculation as being the end of sex. I had 3 full body penis orgasms today with in 30 mins of each other. The final I did feel pelvic contractions(I was twisting the vibrator) but I still wanted a ejaculation and lasted another 15 difficult mins for my forth orgasm. I do wonder if it from being set free with prostate orgasms that has allowed me to separate non stroking orgasms from stroking.

Off Topic: The Arcwave Ion is great though steep in price. I think you paying for a nice case/charger stand in addition to it.(For its price it should have bluetooth for interactive videos or partner play) It pulses air on your frenulum. I find it gives the feeling of being on the edge constantly with out losing control until that point. Compared to a vibrator which comes in waves. For me if I am not full staff or turned on, I have to avoid the very tip of the frenulum(aka slightly uncomfortable) which is difficult (7 something cm to be past the part that pulses air).It is open ended which solves my problem that stroking is the only thing that gets and keeps me hard(I am uncut so I think that is where this comes from). The downside is to that is remembering to put a towel on top(Hard to remember when your about to pop especially with this)

It defiantly stays in my rotation but isn't my go to(I am going to start exploring VR so handfree strokers are my goto atm. You really should try an Edge two with stroking if there is a script. WOW). It comes out when I want a mind bending end to my session but not for exploration. It is harder to know when the end is coming and it is on the loud side