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I am diagnosed with an enlarged prostate. I have a Helix Trident and I (64 young) together with my wife we do some prostate massage/milking. We have some small to moderate results. Sometimes we achieve dry orgasms sometimes just some precum, prostatic fluid or little seminal fluid. We are also using a milking stick, a pegging dildo and p dildo. But none seem to trigger the prostate well. My erections are reasonable hard, but i have problems to keep it hard. Staying aroused is difficult when i am the passive party in our sessions. We i am the active partner in our kinky sex sessions i stay rather aroused and hard as well.

We have bought the Helix to give me the opportunity to get some multi orgasms or dry orgasms myself with or without her being present. Unfortunately the Helix does not give any sensation after 3 sessions. But we are aware of the rewiring and shifting focus from penis to prostate.

But i wonder whether the prostate is less sensitive because of the enlargement. I remember from my earlier days that toughing it was bliss, but nowadays i hardly feel it. Can’t reach it myself anymore, my wife her fingers seem to be too short and milking stick seem to miss it also like the Helix.

Would a larger Aneros,like the Progasm, give a better chance of waking up my prostate. Please give us your thoughts on both an enlarged prostate and sensitivity and a different prostate device.


   
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Posted by: @skipper

We have bought the Helix to give me the opportunity to get some multi orgasms or dry orgasms myself with or without her being present. Unfortunately the Helix does not give any sensation after 3 sessions. But we are aware of the rewiring and shifting focus from penis to prostate.

Three sessions is very early on in your prostate awakening process with an Aneros device. Your previous use of other manually manipulated toys may have accustomed you to more aggressive stimulation than an Aneros device provides. It is good that you are aware that rewiring to create new neural paths to orgasmic pleasures may take an indeterminate amount of time. Patience is important here as you sort through older stimulation-response regimes and establish new subtle stimulation-response patterns. This involves a paradigm shift in sensory focus inward, attuning yourself to the micro sensations your body produces.

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I wonder whether the prostate is less sensitive because of the enlargement.

I'm not a doctor but as far as I know from what I have read BPH doesn't cause decreased sensitivity but actually may cause increased sensitivity to pain from prostatitis or cancer.

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Would a larger Aneros,like the Progasm, give a better chance of waking up my prostate.

Perhaps a larger model might provide additional pressure/stimulation but this might also be too much pressure that could cause discomfort/pain. The only way to know would be to try it out. You might also consider a vibrating model such as the new Helix SYN V which is not much bigger than your Helix Trident but has the additional stimulation factor. Before going and spending more money on other models I suggest you take some time to focus on the subtle sensations you Helix Trident does induce. Generating prostate based orgasms with these massagers can not be done with brute force or siege tactics, it is done with gentle seduction of your own body. This is a paradigm shift in thinking about how your body generates orgasms, one in which the erection status of your penis is immaterial.

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Three sessions is very early on in your prostate awakening process with an Aneros device. Your previous use of other manually manipulated toys may have accustomed you to more aggressive stimulation than an Aneros device provides. It is good that you are aware that rewiring to create new neural paths to orgasmic pleasures may take an indeterminate amount of time. Patience is important here as you sort through older stimulation-response regimes and establish new subtle stimulation-response patterns. This involves a paradigm shift in sensory focus inward, attuning yourself to the micro sensations your body produces.

I fully agree with the above quote. But does that mean I should abstain from other ways of playing with my prostate in order not to delay the rewiring?

I will stay with my Helix for the time being. Bigger is not always better.

 


   
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年纪太大了,还能获得前列腺高潮吗


   
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Posted by: @skipper

... does that mean I should abstain from other ways of playing with my prostate in order not to delay the rewiring?... Bigger is not always better.

It seems to me your use of other devices may have psychologically desensitized you with the macro stimulation those other devices induce combined with your wife's participation. Successful Aneros use requires a fine tuned focus on the micro sensations the gentle massage action of the Aneros provides. A passive, receptive attitude is, IMHO, the most effective path to follow. If you are repeatedly engaging in activities which emphasize a more dynamic, aggressive, assertive approach to prostate play you will be strengthening those neural pathways rather than the pathways you are trying to build with Aneros use. I would recommend you avoid such other prostate stimulation activities until you have developed the ability to have consistent prostate orgasms using your Aneros alone. This doesn't mean your wife can't be a part of the process but her role may need to change to help you focus on these subtle inner sensations as you exercise with your Aneros device.

Of course you should also take care of your wife's needs in this journey as well. Reading some of the threads in the new Couples Corner Forum may interest you and your wife.

Yes, bigger is not necessarily better, the praises for the diminutive little Peridise models will attest to that fact.

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I am too old, can I still get prostate orgasm?

I don't know what ...too old... is, I am 73 with a damaged prostate and am still able to have prostate orgasms. You probably can as well.

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Newbe here. 74 yr old in good health, very active and considered by many to be in my late 50's to mid 60's, but now diagnosed with BPE (normal PSA levels) and experiencing ED for the first time. Doctor suggests drugs &/or operations (typical Western medical approach), but not my choice. My research suggest that prostate massage is excellent for both, so I bought the Helix Syn V. I have been using it every other day or 3 for 1 to 2 hours per session. The high vibration setting provides maximum stimulation and I sense it will provide the maximum stimulation of blood flow to the prostate and hopefully, help decrease the enlargement as a result as well as help to reduce my ED, too. It has only been a couple months, but I can't say that there is any noticeable change in either, yet, except for a very marginal, albeit temporary improvement in urine flow rate for the day of stimulation. I am not experiencing any particular positive sexual stimulation from this device, but it is not painful either. I do know that it is, indeed stimulating the blood flow to the prostate because I can feel the warmth and a sensation of increased awareness there, of which i hope, will eventually lead to a reduction of the enlargement.

Of course, I do expect that the data gathered regarding this may be slim to none, but I also know that the general western medical community is predisposed to 'drugs and surgery'. At least here, I KNOW that this community is actively involved in prostate massage for all reasons! So, my questions are: (1) How often should I massage the prostate to achieve maximum results without overdoing it? (2) Is there any general amount of time known until results may be reasonably expected? (3) Once results become evident, what sort of proactive 'prostate blood circulation management' would be sufficient to maintain a reduced enlargement?

Much appreciation for your time and sharing your own experience and help with this matter! SPL


   
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@spl 

 

Hello 👋 .

 

The objective of Aneros or High Island Health devices (same manufacturer) is prostate healthy stimulation .

What the High Island Health (company focused on therapeutic/medical use) website says is that prostate stimulation promotes blood circulation and tissue stimulation relieving symptoms over time.

 

About wearing time according to the High Island Health website: 

"....It varies from person to person and according to each condition. Urologists generally suggest a prostate massage 2 to 3 times a week at 20 to 30 minutes per session. However, we have received reports of use for hours at a time. We simply recommend usage that is most comfortable for you."

I think after medical evaluation this is a treatment option/alternative. It is necessary to ponder / consider what is best . The Health Island Health website itself is very honest about whether or not the product is effective for all users (with low effectiveness for some). Take a look and draw your conclusions.

There is no consensus on prostate massage in the medical field and further studies are needed. The articles I've read on the subject say that prostate stimulation would be more functional for clinical treatment if combined with medication. For this, it is necessary to consult a doctor to assess the progress of the combined use of medication and aneros .

Some links below:

 

High Island Health FAQ.

https://www.highisland.com/pages/pro-state-faqhttps://www.highisland.com/pages/pro-state-faq

 

Company focus and purpose

https://www.highisland.com/pages/our-approach

 

General considerations on prostate stimulation.

https://www.healthline.com/health/mens-health/benefits-of-prostate-massage-therapy

 

Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate_massage

 

Aneros website proposal (health and pleasure)

https://www.aneros.com/pages/sexual-health-pleasure-and-wellness


   
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