A very important ingredient in the rewiring journey: Removing the 'Arousal Resistor'

Posted by: @darkorb

I lost my Super-O capabilities

Not just health issues. There is definitely a use it or lose caveat to the journey. 3-4 weeks off and I think some guys would notice a difference.

Posted by: @helghast

Posted by: @darkorb

I lost my Super-O capabilities

Not just health issues. There is definitely a use it or lose caveat to the journey. 3-4 weeks off and I think some guys would notice a difference.

 

I'd say a little of both, but mostly health issues/habits. Severe anxiety will pretty much negate any possibility of Super-Os, either from loss of libido or disinterest in general, or just having the bad stuff occupy your mind all the time and removing the ability to fully focus on the sensations in session. I think that's the kind of de-wiring we're talking about. 

A 3-4 weeks breaks to me only means a couple of sessions needed to get back to the level you were, but for someone still in the beginning stages, I agree that plateauing is probably possible from having too few sessions or too much time between them. 

@zentai

Yes mate,the old muscle nuclei memory would soon kick in. But there’d still be a difference even after a short break. We should never forget the re-wiring part of the journey is all software updates to our procreation operating system. Take away the updates,we’ll reset to factory default setting which is cock in pussy,kid out of pussy,extinction avoided ;). 

@helghast

To me it's more like learning to speak a different language or maybe playing an instrument (please, no "skin flute" joke here, hehe), you can get a little rusty but it will come back. Once you have it, you have it. Default setting is not knowing how to play the guitar, but I don't think you can "unlearn" everything even if you don't know a whole lot to begin with. But if you practice only once every month, progression won't come very easily. I do agree that longer breaks will take more time to "recover" from, but I still believe that actual de-wiring (not being able to get back to where you were after a reasonable amount of time) will not happen by just not having sessions for a while. 

Now I think "factory default" thousands of years ago was Super-O from normal reproductive sex, for both men and women, this might be more complex than we might think at first glance. 

@zentai

I don't think that the rewiring journey is comparable to a learnable skill like drawing, playing an instrument, riding a bike etc. though. While f.e. playing piano has clear instructions and exercises that can set anybody on the right path straight away as long as they continue to build the muscle memory, the aneros path is much more trial and error. 

Compared to learning an instrument, the aneros journey is much more foggy, unclear and with many question marks along the way. Something that worked great yesterday, can be a waste of time tomorrow. The progress can be fleeting and even a few months of absence of aneros sessions will be enough to forget, how you've reached the Super-O state. Use it or lose it. Yes, mental health issues like anxiety will let you defocus on the subtle sensations or lose interest in aneros sessions altogether ultimately hindering your process, but bad habbits and a long time of not having an aneros session is also an overlooked factor in a dewiring process.

I also wouldn't compare the aneros journey to a learnable skill but to any other techniques that induce an altered state of mind:

Meditation: If you meditate regularly, you will be able to reach the jhana-state much much easier and almost reliably. But if you stop meditating for 2 weeks, you will practically start from zero.

Lucid Dreaming: The more you practice lucid dreaming techniques, the more lucid dreams you'll get. But if you stop, even for just one week, not only the lucid dreaming count but also the dream memory will tank and you will start practically at zero.

ASMR: A very fleeting form of an altered state of mind. Today you will feel incredible tingles all over your body, but tomorrow and the next few months there can be absolutely nothing.

I think 2 years! of ordinary wanking (without having any aneros session at all) is enough, to dewire even the most rewired individual. The mental health issues (depression and anxiety) were not the cause of the dewiring process. The main culprit was one side effect of them: bad habbits. Well, in my case you can't even call it 'bad habbits' anymore as I practically turned my back completely from aneros or a-less sessions. I think you won't dewire as fast or not at all when you have a refresh session every few weeks (I think that's the point you were trying to get across) but in my case, I didn't have one single session in 2 years (104 weeks!). And I think its only understandable, that people dewire in this enormous amount of time. Heck, even a sophisticated piano player would struggle big time after not playing for 2 years at all. I hope you got my point. 🙂

PS: No offense meant, but let us move this conversation over there:

https://community.aneros.com/community/general-discussion/unwiring-use-it-or-lose-it/

I would prefer that we only discuss the 'Arousal Resistor' in this thread. 🙂

From a rookie perspective, the mental aspect is complicated. For me it's not as simple as mind over matter. Nor is it as easy as dismissal of negativity. 

I'm not a stranger to self-examination. The reality is that I can't possibly know every single thing there is to know about myself. Willingness is not a problem for me. Yet it sure seems like I should be further than I am with just over two years in. I have no physical ailments that could be obstacles.  Affirmations & self-talk only go so far. So I keep trying to remember that this is possible. It might end up being a case of having it sneak up on me, who knows, shrugs.

I'd agree that there is a baseline of effort required & that I won't get results by a monthly practice. Daily could be too much too for that matter. Finding that middle ground is where it's at I think. So I don't go more than a week without a session with the device. I used to schedule a session every five days.  Then considered that it was becoming regimental so extended it to a 7-10day range to where I could let it speak to me more about when to have a session.  Not quite listening for the whisper, but close.

A-less is different & I don't feel very qualified to speak about it. I make the effort daily. Sometimes more than once. Nip-stim helps.

Trying not to overthink & being an observer is a funky balancing act. Relax & let it happen is more at the forefront now.  All that aside, this topic is a great thing for me to keep in mind as I make my way around. Now, back to the lab, Glandrake has more experiments to conduct, heh heh.

@zentai I know it will come back,and come back fast,it’s akin to actual muscle building memory. I could quit the gym for months,lose muscle mass. But when I start training again,I’ll rebuild the muscle faster than it took to build the first time around,I just believe that like the body returning the pretrained state,so would the wiring. However,I would concede that a restarted journey would yield faster results than the first time around. And there will always be complexities around the journey,that is 100%!

@glandrake

2 short Aless sessions per day isn’t bad. I used to that. They were a max of 30 mins. Usually 15-20. In fact a lot of the time,the 2nd session was better! 

Posted by: @darkorb

PS: No offense meant [...]

None taken, I'll think this over and add any insight to the other thread. Sorry for the hijack ! 

As for the Resistor, I find it true that there are "good invols" and "bad invols" and the way you explain it makes sense. Differentiating between the two and knowing when and how to intervene, that's the tricky part. 

Hey @darkorb,

You may be on to something - thy for sharing your insight! At the moment I have mixed thoughts about this and have to ponder to make sense of it. Hopefully this thread isn't dead when I return. 😀

@darkorb

Didn't get to add to the other thread, I went on some kind of wild goose chase because some aspects of your experience runs almost opposite to mine. Just wanted to say that we all experience things differently and if you feel like you de-wired because of lack of sessions for a long while, it's quite possible that it's exactly what happened, and I did not mean to imply you were wrong about this, I just love to argue with @Helghast hehe. 

With that out of the way, about the Arousal Resistor, I shared with some guys before that I though the fabled "leg shakes" that everyone wants to experience after watching some videos online, were sometimes parasitic contractions and that sometimes, I just didn't want them. They're just another "bad" involuntary during some sessions, while during others, they can enhance things. So I understand where you're coming from, even if we're talking about different contractions in different regions of the body, your interpretation seems to be quite solid. 

Posted by: @darkorb

You will be able to distinguish between these two kinds of involuntaries in no time as they feel quite different.

That's the part that I think will cause the greatest amount of interrogations. Do you think this can fit with the "Do nothing" approach ? Technically if we follow this method, all invols are good and should not be tempered with, but if we try to get past the Arousal Resistor, then we must separate the parasitic invols and block those, while letting the "good" invols build up and flow. Can you elaborate on how they "feel different"? Do you think a lot of users run into this phenomenon, or just some of us? 

Posted by: @zentai

I just love to argue with @Helghast hehe.

Huh…ain’t that the damn truth lol 🙂

I think everyone has their own resistors installed in different places, but I like the concept. One I discovered in myself recently was allowing the front half of my body to take part. That the pleasure doesn't only travel up from below, but also down from above, and sometimes in front, not only behind. Fishing the unexamined depths of decades-old wiring continues to surprise me.