A question on what is the basis of Aless

@BigGlansDC what you describe is very similar to my own experience but I started in Jan of this year. The "orgasmic zones" you refer to are more and more frequent for me and I truly enjoy them!

I'm going through a period that affects every aspect of my progress thus far and I need to share it with the group.

It seems to me that when the periods between Aneros sessions are longer than usual, the Aless sessions are a lot less efficient. It could be that my rewiring process is still far from complete but everyday, it gets harder to initiate a productive Aless session. The same goes for overnight activities; I still get hard erections but I'm having difficulties turning them into enjoyable Aless events as I enjoy while conducting regular Aneros sessions. I've been away from my toys for over a week now and I noticed the huge reduction in pleasures. My edging sessions are also affected but not quite as bad as my Aless.

To think I'm at least another week away from my next prostate massage is disheartening. I would be curious to know if the same holds true with other members.

GGringo - I've only been at it for a couple of months, but yes, I have found that when I abstain for several days, my aless experience is more mundane. Frankly that's ok with me, as I am principally using the Aneros to alleviate prostate issues. The doc put me on Flowmax, but it alone wasn't as good as Aneros alone, so I'm now doing Aneros sessions a couple times a week in addition to the Flowmax. That combo seems to be working for me.

[USER="56051"]mastadon1@yahoo.com[/USER] I'm with you, my principal reason for Aneros is health related. My issues were mostly related to an aging and dormant prostate; normal for an aging male. So far,I'm extremely pleased with the results. Good healing for you!

@GGringo, a buddy I see in Aneros chat told me to meditate upon the "orgasmic zones" while in Aless.

Also I believe that your time away from Aless should pass rather quickly while traveling. Take heart! 🙂

I can only do Aless because my prostate can have all of the various stages/strengths of orgasm from various forms of prostate stimulation. If I work my nipples at all, while I have "hot stuff" on my mind, or looking at erotic material, I can start to have major pulsations and the involuntary clamping down of my PC muscles happen for an unknown and uncontrollable amount of time, and when it relaxes I have an orgasm; like, the pause after the clamp is the "point of no return," and then my PC fires and my prostate pulsates and it then happens in orgasmic rhythm. The strength, intensity and length of this sweet O depends on how long the involuntary clamp down lasts; the longer, the stronger. I couldn't control or make myself do this if I tried, all it takes is one to three purposeful contractions or I just think about how it feels and BAM the PC starts to fire up. It's fun!

@techpump I am envious of your state of 'completely rewired'. I am looking forward to reaching your level of expertise but until then, I will continue to enjoy every bit of pleasure my journey is providing me. Thank you for sharing.

@techpump I am envious of your state of 'completely rewired'. I am looking forward to reaching your level of expertise but until then, I will continue to enjoy every bit of pleasure my journey is providing me. Thank you for sharing.

Thank you I really appreciate it! I started my Aneros "ride" in 2004 and it has taken a long time to get where I am now. But, my knowledge and experience of sex, orgasm, ejaculation, stimulation, eroticism, what is "sexy," what is "straight/gay/bi/etc.," and what my cock and ass really feels like has also grown through this time. Maybe I got rewired not just from prostate stimulation but from all the learning about everything 'sex' in general? I am starting to think that it's not just aneros/prostate stimulation alone, but a complete 'rewiring' of my body and brain. I think my prostate has been majorly influential in everything going on in my life, like my outlook on life in general is so different now than before my first super-O and realization of what a dry prostate orgasm felt like. With that comes a growing knowledge and experience through sex with my wife, my soul mate and greatest friend of my entire life. I used to pop the aneros into me and "expect something to happen" because that, to me, was what the sexual experience was all about: get your cock hard, rub it, you cum; get your cock hard, stick into your woman, you both have fun and both (hopefully both!) cum; stick this strange toy into your ass and have an orgasm you never imagined possible. All three aren't really what I see them as now. I'm way more in tune with myself, my life, my wife, our lives, my body, her body, "our" body, than ever before; prostate orgasms have helped the evolution of this "getting in tune" but I don't know for sure if it's 100% responsible. Maybe it's a component of a puzzle. I just don't know how many pieces there were to start with, and how far along I am in completing it! Honestly I hope I'm nowhere near close to finishing but I feel like I'm past the 50% mark and might just be starting to see what the image is supposed to look like. 😉

On this anniversary of 9/11 which fell this year on a Sunday, I didn't go to church today because of a triathlon and a special service at Washington National Cathedral which snarled city traffic. So I stayed home and fell into a revelry trying to escape the realities of this anniversary. When I came out of my revelry and slumber, I felt refreshed and had that reassuring Aless! Thank you for this great group too! @GGringo, I hope you are enjoying your RVing vacation.

@techpump Well written! I agree with you; I don't know how far along I am on this journey either, but I'm so glad it's continuing! It seems like a new experience every day and every session. Yes, I agree you look at things differently from our 'Aneros' perspective. I wouldn't have it any other way now!

@techpump I'm rereading your two entries above and I continue to be mesmerised by what you can achieve with a few thoughts and contractions. I'm serious when I say I am looking forward to being anywhere between my current level and yours. I pinch myself for having found this new fountain of youth (to paraphrase what my friend @BigGlansDC said in one of his posts) but I just wished it would have been years ago instead on last January. I don't know how old you are but you are an inspiration to me.

@BigGlansDC our thoughts are with every victim and their families of the tragedy of 15 years ago. In one post, we see such human pleasures described and then so much senseless and unnecessary pain.

So guys, would you say that an awakened prostate is the basis of Aless?

@BigGlansDC deffinetly a yes from me! The feelings experienced during the Aless sessions were never there before the begining of back-door play.

@BigGlansDC An awakened prostate is most likely part of the deal, in combination with the rewiring, or classical conditioning, as it is also called. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning

Thank you, @Pavlov, and welcome to Aneros forum!

The classical conditioning about which you refer to are regular sessions with an Aneros device. I have looked upon my Aneros sessions from the outset as a type of athletic training. Athletes train several times a week in order to become proficient in their type of athletic competition. Plus engaging in a sport is good for you physically, mentally, and socially. Athletes who have played a sport receive an endorphin high. Likewise the Aneros introduces the Aneroser to anal play, and prostate and anal pleasure which just gets better and better over time!

Sticking with your athlete analogy, just think of how strong your abs are going to get from all the orgasms! At least, that's what I keep telling myself.

@ihave2cats, I have been on my Aneros journey for five plus years. I know that countless Aneros sessions have toned not only my anal musculature and PC muscle, but they have also toned my thighs, butt, and torso. But today, having reached the milestone of achieving Super-O's and MMO's, it will be very interesting what directions my "weight training" from Aneros will take! 😉

i think i got myself Aless this morning

while i am half awaken from my sleep, i felt strong sensation that is flowing around my pelvic area, which i think is the 'leftover' of last night aneros session.

I could remember the pleasure wave that is flowing from my prostate to my penis, to and fro, felt like the head of my penis wanna explode and lots of cum is waiting to be blown out. To make thing more intense, i started to contract my pelvic floor muscle, which i learnt to do correctly lately and in a few min, i reached a point of no return where i let myself go and had multiple full body orgasm

Congratulations, @veon! 😉

Not sure if I disagree that time between Aneros sessions decreases the quality of the A-less outcome I'd have to know more (like if you ejaculate every time with Aneros). I find that the more time since last EJACULATION, the more energy there is, the more sensitive the prostate and perineum are to this energy and the easier it is to focus on and intensify this energy until the process of prostate pulsing and contracting begins.

Aless or Anerosless is the Aneros experience outside of sessions with Aneros. Would you say that an awakened prostate is the heart or basis of Aless?

@BigGlansDC Now that I have some more time, let me elaborate on my previous comment.

I started my journey towards full body, multiple, non-ejaculatory orgasms more than a decade ago, but for various reasons I haven't joined this forum until now. Along my path, I have tried many different techniques, and encountered even more. The lowest common denominator for all of them is that they claim that the human body (and soul, if you prefer to see the two as one) possess the inherent capability to experience pleasurable sensations of an orgasmic nature throughout the whole body without ejaculating, and that these sensations can be experienced repeatedly. Based on the experiences of my personal journey I argue that this is true.

In this forum, a lot of terms have been defined, such as P-wave, Super-O, Mini-O, Aless, etc. Although I understand the driving force behind defining these terms, I think we do ourselves a disservice in doing so, because it may limit us in the ways we think. So, for example, if you ask me if I would say that an awakened prostate is the heart or basis of Aless, I would like to widen the question beyond the scope and the definitions of the Aneros forum.

The first step in widening the question would be to replace the term Aless with pleasurable feelings of an orgasmic nature. Yes, I'm aware that it is much longer, and takes longer time to write, as well as to read, but it frees us from the limiting connection to the Aneros. The second step would be to rephrase the "heart" of your question from is the heart or basis to is one of the paths that lead to the heart or basis of.

Now, that the question is "Would you say that an awakened prostate is one of the paths that lead to the heart or basis of pleasurable feelings of an orgasmic nature", my answer would have to be a definite YES! According to my personal experience, once you have awakened the ability to have pleasurable feelings of an orgasmic nature,
regardless of how you did it, you have found the heart or basis of full body, multiple, non-ejaculatory orgasms, regardless of how you chose to invoke them.

@BigGlansDC Yes, I'm convinced that the awakening of the awareness of one's prostate and the pelvic muscles that surround it is essential to achieving the O Zone. I continue to be amazed at the level of pleasure that is available just by focusing on contractions of the pelvic muscles. Using focused light pelvic and prostate contractions, I can now have multiple hands free dry orgasms that absolutely rock my world, just about anytime I want. I also can now generate an erection, maintain the erection during intercourse and have a timely wet orgasm simply by adding prostate focus and contractions. None of this was possible with any certainty before my introduction to the Aneros device.

What is most important to consider is that using the Aneros device, or any form of prostate stimulation, is an extremely useful tool in opening our male minds and bodies to alternate forms of sexual ecstasy. Traditional penis stimulation is simple, direct and effective. But prostate stimulation is much more indirect and ultimately, because of its complexity, far more productive :^)

@MO_Bosco What you describe is pure bliss. This is every newer member's dream to achieve your level. Was your journey to get there a long one that eventually paid off?
Congratulation on your success!

I'd say more than pure bliss. It's absolutely fantastic and very addictive.

My journey has been adult life long. It's only been since I've been using the Aneros that I've made serious progress. Learning to use the device allowed me to perceive the subtle pelvic sensations that eventually led to A-less dry O's. There are so many muscles and nerves located in your pelvis that we never pay attention to. Everything from the anus to the penis is fair game.

When I was i college I learned to juggle. It's a skill that anyone with normal hand-eye coordination can learn. Use have to train your brain via a step by step process, no short cuts. Learning to achieve A-less orgasm is a process that also requires training your brain. It's not as direct an approach as the device, but the results are just as fantastic. Also, one can practice any time,just about anywhere.

I don't recall whether there is any detailed instruction on the forum. If not, perhaps I could start one. Anyone interested?

A less sensations on the level if whole body orgasm is a good direction. Past 2 weeks they have been happening to me regularly in session and I use a technique to do it a less from a pdf I read off Google . Energy orgasms. Look that one up and put in pdf afterward and it will give you instructions. Ifor I continue session past this whole body buzz I start having transiting focus to anorectal-penile focus. I feel I'm close to the super o threshold now. Keep going.

Thank you all for your answers to my question in this thread. While I had an amazing session nearly three weeks ago, it ratcheted up the activity of my prostate in Aless. My sessions these days seem more routine, but oh, the Aless outside of sessions!

@yankeecowboy Is this the pdf you are referring to http://barbaracarrellas.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Breath-Energy-Orgasm-Handout.pdf ?

@Pavlov:

Yes it is. This is funny, the pdf you are both referring to was shared in the forum by @yankeecowboy some time ago and I just now made the connection, that it's from Barbara Carrelas, who you refered to in your Neuroplasticity thread. I find it wonderful, that there exist some activists, like her, who actively spread the wisdom about Kundalini and Energy Orgasms. Sometimes I daydream about making a living with that too. 🙂

To answer @BigGlansDC's initial question:

Would you say that an awakened prostate is the heart or basis of Aless?

I would rather say the heart of a-less is the brain itself. You can meditate yourself to orgasm w/o meditating the pelvic area at all. It's your brain and nervous system learning this ability. The rest is "just" interfaces - different switches scattered all over your body, but you can use any of them as long as they tingle your brain. KSMO is a superb example for this or amygdala clicking. If you haven't tried this so far, do it now! It's an orgasm with the epicenter in your brain. Just imagine having your prostate right in your brain, this stuff is magic.

Cheers, Unfug

Didn't know this was a know technique. This is an excellent tutorial.

http://anniesprinkle.org/energy-orgasms/

Most of the energy orgasm discussions/videos seem to be for women. Be assured, they can work just as well for men in producing unreal, continuous/multiple orgasms. I have never ejaculated doing these but normally generate a large amount of pre-cum. I recommend placing your tongue to the roof of your mouth to avoid headaches. You don't have to work it all the way up to the top of your head to have a really awesome time. Nor do you have to do it on a hard surface.

@Pavlov:
Barbara Carrelas, who you refered to in your Neuroplasticity thread.

@Unfug Did I?