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Posted by: @rubberdiver

My prob here: tug/pull and the do-nothing idea doesn't work for me, I'm not getting further pleasure-wise.

This journey you are on may not (in fact probably will not) be linear in its expression. There may be long periods of apparent no progress (plateaus) before you notice a change, this is normal, all I can advise is to be patient and thankful for the pleasures you do receive. Keep practicing and experimenting, as long as you have no particular expectations you won't get frustrated, your body will respond when it is ready.

Posted by: @rubberdiver

I kept trying to get there again but despite some more contractions it felt like the muscles said "I don't want anymore".

When it is talking (most of the time it is just whispering), dude, listen to your body !
Don't let your ego try to dictate what the body wants to naturally do.

Good Vibes to You!

I was never somebody who had much patience for esoteric topics, this sounds similar. 😛

Posted by: @rubberdiver

I was never somebody who had much patience for esoteric topics, this sounds similar. 😛

You may discover down the road that some spiritual elements will help you make sense or describe what is happening inside your body. Science doesn't care too much about "super prostatic orgasms" so at some point we have to think outside the box.

Depending on your experience level and muscle tone "down there", you may be experiencing some muscle fatigue that breaks the cycle, for example pulling muscles are still good to go but pushing muscles are tired so the automatic in-out stops. So you'd need a break, those muscles won't be rested just because you "will" them to be, hence "listen to your body." 

Posted by: @rubberdiver

I was never somebody who had much patience for esoteric topics, this sounds similar. 😛

Dude, this whole Forum, in which you have chosen to participate, is dedicated to an esoteric topic ! Hopefully, at some point in the future this will no longer be true and knowledge about prostate massage, prostate orgasms and Super-O's will be common in all cultures but until that happens the members of this Forum are the vanguard for disseminating that knowledge.

Good Vibes to You!