i was like you for my first couple of years. if you go back to my posts 10 years ago you'll see similar posts from me.
there are two keys to rewiring, and only two:
- stay as relaxed as possible
- pay attention to, and enjoy, any pleasant feelings you have, in whatever form they come
edit: a third is arousal.
you just have to stick with that.
also, in case you missed it, here is Nero's very helpful post:
https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/16485/do-nothing-method-the-sensation-you-are-looking-for
the biggest problem people like you and the former me have is trying to think our way to a solution.
you have to be at peace with the fact that your rewiring is on the slower boat. some guys are on a cigarette boat, some are on a barge, we don't know why. welcome to the barge club. sit back, relax, and make the most of the slow ride.
darwin
I'm being told this is all normal. Except the stabbing pain in the head of my penis.
I don't think it's normal. I used to get excited about the need to pee feelings because they were new, but now I think they are not the feelings I should be getting.
The speed of progress is not an issue. I've been doing this for 18 months, many have already achieved greater things than me in a shorter time. It's that I'm not convinced that the feelings I have are good ones. Maybe there's a problem with my body. Maybe I have prostate or bladder problems. Maybe I have prostate cancer.
All the comments so far on what prostate contact should feel like, are not the feelings I obtain.
It's like I obtain feelings that are orthogonal to what I should be getting.
"Instead when it's being suitably massaged you'll feel pleasure build
from what seemingly feels like no where, sometimes with the onset of a
random erection." - I don't have this.
I was just asking what I should feel even if not rewired. I seem to get nothing. Just need to pee feeling, a bit like you are walking somewhere public and you know that you need to go to the toilet sooner than later.
I'm going to have to take a break from Aneros. I think I programmed my mind to look for the wrong sensations in my sessions. Hopefully there's a way to reprogram the mind to the correct settings.
stabbing pain, sorry, i didn't notice that part. that is not good. what causes that pain? is it if you contract hard?
the main message i am trying to convey is that for a long time i felt nothing too, and thought there was something wrong. it just took a long time.
here is a suggestion. take a break from aneros/prostate. instead, try to see if you can awaken a different alternative pathway. try using your fingers to masturbate your nipples or your butt hole. see if you get even the teeniest bit of pleasure. if you get even one morsel of pleasure, consider that a success. try again another time. the key to this kind of stimulation is slow, very light teasing strokes, with variety thrown in.
darwin
@lonewolf please resist becoming discouraged. Do not compare your experience to others. Your journey is yours and its unique. You may have already experienced awesome things that others will not.
For me prostate contact is like a highly muffled sound. It is non-distinct and elusive. I don't ever feel it filling up. What I do feel is an assortment of sensations from all around my pelvis as I focus my awareness of them, like feeling your nose. My P spot lies somewhere in the middle of things and only gets going when its encouraged by all the other pieces. Ha, its like watching a group of break dancers each take their turn. When they all get going at the same time, the prostate feels obliged to dance.
@lonewolf8 there is one other thing you might try. Try tickling your nipples while you are having a session and see if you can feel any sensory change in the prostate area. What I have found is that when I tickle my nipples during a session it makes my prostate become very sensitive and it starts twitching. The other thing I noticed is that nipple stimulation does not necessarily feel good at the site of the nipple. Even so, it still has a direct effect on my prostate. It might help wake up your prostate. It's worth a try. I would recommend starting out with a very light touch and focus on any changes in the prostate area.
You can't relax completely while stimulating your nipples because you have to hold your hands up to your nips. I lay on my back and rest my elbows on the bed and use the back of my thumbs to tickle with. This made a huge difference in me being able to feel something in my prostate. It really fires things up for me.
I did one session with nipple play, and that one was interesting. There was a sonorous (metal) echo in my down below. But could not localise it.
The other sessions werent as successfully with nipples.
Still - I was asking just about prostate probing. What happens when one probes it.
Had some aless last night while trying to sleep by lightlty fluttering the PC muscles. Not sure why I did that - should have been ignoring prostate play. Had some vibrating or quivering. And the need to pee sensations, even though I went to the toilet 10 mins before.
Darwin - no just happened once and it was with me Doing Nothing with the Helix. Just breathing and trying to not contract.
There ya go wolf 😉
Aless was a good thing and you felt wh at was the right sensations for the experience. It may be in your neurological experience that orgasm cones with a fluid release. There was an anEros video put out by goldenboyuk that happens to him using the helix . It may also be that your seminal vesicles are getting very full or prostate is full and stimulating that sensation, looking for a fluid release.....
I believe I remember as a child, climbing the iron porch pole in front of my grandmother's old house, I got extreme pleasure in the groin area and ran upstairs and pee'd, went back downstairs and climbed it again. Probably repeated this ritual a dozen times, and ran back upstairs that many as well to release the fluid urge I thought was needin to pee.
You are on the right track
I don't think it was the right sensation or a good experience.
Why would my seminal vesicles or prostate be full? I had ejaculated perhaps 30 mins prior.
In trying to explain my problem, I think I annoyed yet another Aneros user.
You know who you are... (I dont want to name names). I know you were trying to help. I apologise.
Just curious, why would you shoot off a load right before start a session?
Wow and you still had more to give, you stud! 🙂
@yankeecowboy
No, I jacked off and went to sleep but while trying to sleep had some a-less feelings.
There was no Aneros device involved. It's not really stud-worthy.
You seem kind of down on yourself, Wolf. Try to just let what happens happen. Maybe that will help.
Hey wolf. I read your replys seems you are the personality similar as me. I'm a guy prefer every steps on a Rock. PROOF make me feel good. However, rewire is a mind game more then physical. I can't get proof often.
But if your question now is the prostate contact feel like, I believe it is definitely physical. You CAN get this feel I'm very sure.
Just forget rewire or Aneros or session, go looking for the feel first. Know which organ your are playing for first. If you don't know who is it you can't say Hi.
Finger, wand, any tools with different size, material, softness. Try any method to make your prostate goes swollen goes sensitive. Masturbation Edgeing Anal-play whatever.
You WILL feel it. It's an organ with nerve surrounded. No matter how dull, you Will feel it by direct contact. If you don't, means that method not for you. Go find next.
I've never felt it.
If I stick a toy up there, I dont know what I am looking for. I've tried it in the past and I couldnt sense anything different.
Replies here seem to refer to:
milked(squeezed) then released which sends waves of pleasure." - Which seems unspecific and confusing and not something I can relate to.
from what seemingly feels like no where, sometimes with the onset of a
random erection." - I've had some random semi-erections, not acompanies with pleasure. Not sure it was even related to prostate stimulation then.
Frustrating because something good could be right in front of me but I dont recognise it.
I'm hoping that giving up for a while might help. I'm not sure I've got a good understanding of this.
I don't want to be one of those people that gets off on the thought of having a full bladder and wears adult baby diapers and loves to make a mess in them etc. I'm sure there's some fetish like that. Do Not Want. Full bladder feeling.
@longewolf8 I've never felt much either. But don't get too discouraged about feeling the prostrate, it's only part of the game.
If you still want to explore here's great video on how to find the prostate and massage it for health and enjoyment. He plugs ;^) the Aneros as well.
https://youtu.be/AXryrXd5Xrg
Here's the page it came from, excellent info.
http://www.prostate-massage-and-health.com/prostate-massage-video.html
Wolf: I may be missing something here but if you are ejaculating normally, your prostate is "working", including all the muscles surrounding and within it.
I think a strong balanced pelvic floor plays a big role regarding prostate sensitivity.
The trick here is to learn how to breath in your WHOLE pelvic floor muscles group and then release while breathing out while the rest of your body is relaxed (it should feel like an elevator that is moving up towards your lungs and down back to the relaxed state) this exercise will greatly increase blood flow in your prostate all around that pelvic area it will fill your pelvic floor muscle whit brand new oxygen ....wut happens often when the pelvic floor muscles are not balance is that either the pc muscles or the sphinxer muscles will give up and become over tired becoming tense (over worked)
I found it extremely tricky to learn how to properly balance my pelvic muscle it takes practice just like body building..I use to be a premature ejaculater because i would always subconsciously contract my pc muscle which created unbalance in my pelvic floor muscles.
Once you've strengthen and balanced your pelvic floor muscles, That's when the aneros hits that omg spot while you breath your whole pelvic floor muscles, not just the PC muscle the whole thing..
Also, even when you do this exercise without the aneros you should be able to identify you prostate as it gets filled whit brand new blood and gets aroused..Basically if you have an extremely strong and balanced pelvic floor you can achieve orgasms without any toys..
While doing a-less, I very gently contract muscles. There's a range of muscles in there.
And i do like a index finger "come hither" motion, but with pc muscles sorta up and down.
And if I do that, it feels like I need to pee. 🙁
This is just using the PC muscles, not sphincter muscles.
Sometimes I then get a anal or sphincter mucle twitch, but it's not pleasurable. It just happens and I'm like... hmmm ok, carry on.
The primary feeling I get is needing to pee. It doesnt feel orgasmic or good. There's no "omg spot" that I've found. I dont know what I'm doing wrong....
i think work on your pelvic muscle balance thing is your PC muscle is taking over and tencing up and cant relaxe anymore wich makes you want to pee. When that happens take deep breaths until it gets rebalanced again its pretty tricky..just dont let the PC muscles take over your whole pelvic muscles..make them one muscle(balanced)
In other words don't only contract you pc muscle at all it will only unbalance your pelvic floor, the trick is to learn how to breath in,breed out relaxing feeling the whole pelvic floor rise to your lungs and as you breath in and feel it go down as you breath out.Eventually you'll find that perfect spot where the whole muscle group follows then you can contract properly (don't let the pc muscle take over)
When you do it properly even your balls kinda get sucked up abit and then released..as you breath in and out
Well i just tried flexing sphincter muscles and pc muscles together and in patterns and still need to pee.
Anyway, @rumel tells me to leave aneros use for a few weeks and to start shorter sessions when I rebegin. I will do that. But I don't have a lot of faith that it will do anything for me.
The feeling to pee is normal, just don't let it make your pc muscle tence up and strain(becoming over worked) .keeping the balance is the hard part.
As a premature ejaculater i know how hard it is to regain balance in the pelvic area it can take alot of time since often this start at a young age and then the pelvic floor becomes extremely unbalanced and the brain just thinks that how it works...that is often caused from forcing to ejaculate like always doing 2-4 minutes(forcing an erection whit pc muscle) quickies while watching porn..instead of relaxing and enjoying and letting things do their stuff naturaly, often premature ejaculaters don't even know they are premature ejaculaters...it's tricky because if youve been ejaculating prematurely since maturation you have to rewire all that stuff..(like relearning from 0 )
Also, since iv'e been re-balancing my pelvic floor muscles,i've notice my flaccid is heavier and hang lower and my erections are way bigger ,it gives it more off a fully engorged dick that is falling out of my body instead of a tensed up erection wanting to get sucked up into my body. (That overworked PC muscles was just stopping the blood flow and didnt allow my penis to take its alpha form lol)
Tell me if I'm wrong.
You said you tried to "feel like want to pee". Don't you think this IS the feeling comes from the prostate?
I do. This IS the feeling I've got when I direct contact my prostate.
Or, your question is, why you don't enjoy this "want to pee" feeling as someone else? You frustrated because you can't translate this pee feeling into any kind of Pleasure?
Hi dude, i tried to ask this of you in your my first super O thread but the team here saw fit to delete it, is it possible i could ask you a question, it would really help me out!
I don't know if I'm making progress.
How can I know how to do things correctly?
I can sometimes get some involuintaries, but it doesnt feel pleasurable. What am I doing wrong? (yes ok I will get attacked for thinking right vs wrong... but I dont know how else to phrase this).
I can once or twice get some vibration going with Progasm or Helix, and with the Helix, the p-tab can sometimes tickle my perenium, but other than it being interesting, and that the skin on the outside is being tickled, I don't think it's anything sexual or pleasurable.
I keep failing to find my sweet spot. I've pressed and massaged with fingers, I've used the Eupho's head to push there while using Helix etc... I cant locte it. Maybe this would be crutial?
So apparently (as mentioned in chat) "your disbelief (even if small) in your mind is probably a blocking issue" and "and that is why you haven't had much success" (regarding me not believing).... what? how?
I don't know how to progress anymore. I don't think this is possible. I feel dissapointed and stressed about this and to think I just spent / wasted money ordering the Peridise.
ARGH! 🙁