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My cock is often hard during a session, but not the whole time. When I first start a session, the approach of the first orgasm often coincides with my cock getting hard. So it's a very noticeable sign of what is coming. But after 30 min or so, my cock often goes soft and I sometimes have great orgasms with a soft cock. But in general, the harder my cock, the stronger the orgasms.

And I feel like when my cock is hard, that it is all connected. Contractions of the penis feel good, prostate feels good, it all feels tied together.

That's great. I have the similar experiences but I feel that there are two separate experiences which sometimes overlap. I can have an orgasm with ejaculation/sometimes none/with a hard penis. Then I can have a limp penis, but have the shockwaves/quivers unrelated to an orgasm/ejaculation.


   
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Someone sent me a skype request today but i lost it before I could reply. If that was u, please send again!


   
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Everytime i see a new post in here i get so excited thinkings youve posted the new video with voice over/comments! but alas... 🙁


   
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I ordered a smartphone camera tripod today... maybe I'll get inspired soon!


   
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What a cliffhanger, eagerly waiting in anticipation! :p


   
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how about suggesting mod to have a place for users to share their vid? would not that a good idea? haha


   
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I have an 8 minute video. It's a-less, and with me using a sex toy on my cock. But captures some good multi orgasms - working on the subtitles now and hope to share later today.


   
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Alright guys - first attempt at a video with subtitles. Wasn't using an aneros during this, but just going a-less. And it's more focused on my use of the Venus 2000 to edge myself and trigger the orgasms - but it would be the same principle if you were using your hand.

Let me know what you think - it actually wasn't hard to do this, so i'll try to get something on film during another good session soon. Comments / suggestions welcome!

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph595058f187f49


   
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Alright guys - first attempt at a video with subtitles. Wasn't using an aneros during this, but just going a-less. And it's more focused on my use of the Venus 2000 to edge myself and trigger the orgasms - but it would be the same principle if you were using your hand.

Let me know what you think - it actually wasn't hard to do this, so i'll try to get something on film during another good session soon. Comments / suggestions welcome!

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph595058f187f49

Great video but wold love it to be an aneros session for next time 🙂

Also i dont know how easy it is for most of us to have orgasms like this using penile stimulation, i definitley need to focus away from that area if i want the orgasm to be non prostate based. Are these orgasms prostate orgasms youre having? how intense are they?


   
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Great video but wold love it to be an aneros session for next time 🙂

Also i dont know how easy it is for most of us to have orgasms like this using penile stimulation, i definitley need to focus away from that area if i want the orgasm to be non prostate based. Are these orgasms prostate orgasms youre having? how intense are they?

I can do an Aneros only session next time - to be honest, the only difference would be that I'm just laying there and cock might be soft more.

These were the same kind of orgasms I'd have if I was using Aneros, and/or going hands free. So prostate based. The machine works well for this, cause you cat set the frequency/speed and stroke length to match the orgasm contractions, and it sorta feels like you're fucking at each contraction as your cock gets sucked in. Sometimes when using this toy though (or just my hand), but dick can start pulsating and if I go down that path and focus on that, it's more a penile pulsating/contraction and I think it's a different type of orgasm. That's still a pretty new thing for me - only notice that happen a few times. Almost always, no matter what method or technique, it's the usual prostate based multiple orgasms.


   
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I can do an Aneros only session next time - to be honest, the only difference would be that I'm just laying there and cock might be soft more.

These were the same kind of orgasms I'd have if I was using Aneros, and/or going hands free. So prostate based. The machine works well for this, cause you cat set the frequency/speed and stroke length to match the orgasm contractions, and it sorta feels like you're fucking at each contraction as your cock gets sucked in. Sometimes when using this toy though (or just my hand), but dick can start pulsating and if I go down that path and focus on that, it's more a penile pulsating/contraction and I think it's a different type of orgasm. That's still a pretty new thing for me - only notice that happen a few times. Almost always, no matter what method or technique, it's the usual prostate based multiple orgasms.

see I don't get that!? Were told to stay away from penile stimulation as it does not fit in with the rewriting process. I think you're in the monitory that can do this, I've tried this sort of thing for years, hindereds of session and knly
once it worked. I feel it could be counterintuitive for some using that method. Would love to hear how you have mastered it, most of us would kill to have anything like this.


   
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see I don't get that!? Were told to stay away from penile stimulation as it does not fit in with the rewriting process. I think you're in the monitory that can do this, I've tried this sort of thing for years, hindereds of session and knly
once it worked. I feel it could be counterintuitive for some using that method. Would love to hear how you have mastered it, most of us would kill to have anything like this.

I think you highlight one of the traps / mistakes... nobody here is telling you to stay away from penile stimulation. I think you probably didn't mean to say that literally anyways, but it's worth using to bring up a point... all the instructions, methods, tips, how to's --> they're just things that worked for someone at some point. That said, it's extremely valuable information and worth reading lots and lots. But it's meant more to keep in the back of your head so that you can sort of relate or help guide your body to the right place when things happen. It helps you know what to pay attention to. But don't get hung up on "should do this" or "shouldn't do that". When it comes to stuff like this, its supposed to be fun - sorta like, if it feels good to do it. If it feels different, explore it. Try something different in a session. Try to build on things that come up. For me, I did try to follow others instructions and that never worked. It’s when I was able to let go of that and clear my head (weed helped) that things clicked for me.

Anyways - so how did I learn to have multiple orgasms with penile stimulation? Lots of experimenting. It isn’t how I started….

July 2015 - had been using aneros on and off for about 10 years, like maybe 30 times total. It felt ok, but wasn’t anything all that special. I really believed male multiple orgasms were over blow, over exaggerated. I didn’t think fake - but I didn’t really believe I’d ever get there. I did have a good sex life though, and was great at edging. But then one week in July 2015, just decided to really go for it again, and had returned to reading lots on aneros.com for a few days. Got my Aneros out (it was an Aneros classic - sort of like MGX) and tried. Nothing. I thought maybe its the toy so I bought a Helix, and smoked some weed - still nothing, but there was a few times where I felt so mentally aroused and felt things tightening and swelling up around my prostate, anus, cock I really enjoyed it. Then I bought a Progasm Ice and tried, and also smoked weed - within 10 minutes, I was having multiple orgasms. So I was lucky - it took less than a week to get re wired really (the previous 10 years I wasn’t really trying… maybe once or twice a year I’d put an aneros in and jerk off an cum - i had no idea what i was doing).

That re wiring was all done hands free. And I do agree for most guys that learning hands free is the way to go. If you are busy stimulating your cock, I think you won’t sense and notice the subtle things going on in your body as orgasm approaches.

But even from the first time I was re wired, as an orgasm approaches and things started to swell up - prostate gets bigger, fluid starts filling things, blood fills cock - that all feels really good. I wanted to touch my cock, but didn’t. But touching your cock adds to arousal, adds to that buildup. And I’ve found, even shortly after being re wired, it’s a great way to get the orgasms going, or keep going…. I think I realized that shortly after being re wired, that touching your cock wasn’t bad at all! I’d be having sex with my boyfriend, and usually had way more orgasms having sex than I did with myself hands free. The first couple times we had sex, during the orgasms, I did get a bit too close to ejaculation and had to stop lots. But as my muscles got stronger over the following months, and I understood the subtle differences between keeping an orgasm going and triggering the ejaculation reflex, I got better and better control.

I have a lot of sex with people that are willing to slow down and enjoy things. Not get to some final destination. It’s almost impossible for me to have sex without having multiple orgasms. I’ve tried, but almost trying not to have an orgasm makes me have one even more. I try to be upfront with my partners about it so that I’m not self conscious about it…. but some guys wouldn’t even notice. It’s only if I’ve been having sex for more than about 20 minutes that the orgasms get so much stronger and longer than a regular orgasm someone might have when they ejaculate that someone would be like “hey, what’s going on. why are you having so much fun?”

So I don’t really know if I learned to orgasm from penile stimulation. It just sorta happened along my journey because I was having sex a lot at the same time as learning / being re wired. I have learned though to really be in control (not ejaculate) and really enjoy it instead of fighting the PONR the whole time.


   
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Thank you for your above post on penis stimulation and what you have achieved by it. I myself have many aneros toys, but like this morning, I had some wonderful dry orgasms just with shaft stroking and nipple play. I think you are leading the way in expanding the rewiring experiences out to the uttermost boundaries utilizing all our resources as men to achieve greater pleasure. We men have a love affair going with our dicks to begin with, so why not include them in the rewiring pleasure.

For me, I can truly say that utilizing shaft edging and nipple play does not focus my entire attention on my penis, but instead, I can relax and stay connected with whatever is going on in my body at any location just acknowledging that pleasure at that area, relaxing, and letting it build. But again, my penis was my gateway into prostate orgasms, orgasms at various parts of my body, and dry Os. No stones to throw because if my life will ever slow down and I have privacy, I do intend to utilize my aneros toys to experience what most of the guys on this site have achieved with the aneros.


   
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Thank you for your above post on penis stimulation and what you have achieved by it. I myself have many aneros toys, but like this morning, I had some wonderful dry orgasms just with shaft stroking and nipple play. I think you are leading the way in expanding the rewiring experiences out to the uttermost boundaries utilizing all our resources as men to achieve greater pleasure. We men have a love affair going with our dicks to begin with, so why not include them in the rewiring pleasure.

For me, I can truly say that utilizing shaft edging and nipple play does not focus my entire attention on my penis, but instead, I can relax and stay connected with whatever is going on in my body at any location just acknowledging that pleasure at that area, relaxing, and letting it build. But again, my penis was my gateway into prostate orgasms, orgasms at various parts of my body, and dry Os. No stones to throw because if my life will ever slow down and I have privacy, I do intend to utilize my aneros toys to experience what most of the guys on this site have achieved with the aneros.

I wish i understood how this was possible but all literature and adivce from epxeirence fellows here tell us to not even touch our penis'.

I have tried and tried to focus on my prostate whilst stroking to acheive this and it works to a degree but never over the edge. I feel its reserved for a very small minority with a very unusual mental or physical wiring that allow this to be possible, i dont know where training for this would be possible but i dont feel its on these forums...

Even where you say you allow it build, this is somehting that my body just doesnt do, its only ever one 'level' nothing gets higher and higher, nothing.


   
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all literature and adivce from epxeirence fellows here tell us to not even touch our penis'.

It's too small of a sample to just go by what is said on this site. It's all great info - and I actually do think learning hands free is the way to go for most people. But arousal is so important, and your cock plays a big part in that.

If you were to look at other sites, or other books and videos about male multiple orgasms, you'd see the idea of "don't touch your penis" is a bit exaggerated here and isn't a key "rule" when it comes to this.

Just anecdotal evidence, but maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of the guys I play with have a few multiple orgasms when they are with me, but don't by themselves. And that's from me stroking their cock. So it works. They're really good at reading my energy though and know how to push my buttons. And when I'm stroking them, I can read them pretty well. One guy recently I was laying with was so close to having orgasms when i was stroking him, but a second or two before he was going to orgasm (in my opinion, based on what i was feeling in his cock) he would tense up - which is what most guys do when they get close to orgasm. I kept pointing that out, but he couldn't just relax when an orgasm was approaching. If you tense up right before an orgasm and keep going, it feels really good, and you'll have an orgasm a few seconds later - but probably also an ejaculation. If you relax, you'll have an orgasm a few seconds earlier and no ejaculation if you do it right.

I didn't really read how to do that - I just jerk off a lot and take my time, so figured it out. 🙂


   
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...he would tense up - which is what most guys do when they get close to orgasm. I kept pointing that out, but he couldn't just relax when an orgasm was approaching. If you tense up right before an orgasm and keep going, it feels really good, and you'll have an orgasm a few seconds later - but probably also an ejaculation. If you relax, you'll have an orgasm a few seconds earlier and no ejaculation if you do it right.

I have expirenced both relaxing and also tensing (the latter being the default thing for most guys as you say) but it makes little difference and no i dont get another orgasm either way no matter. I have had multiple ejaculatory orgasms and multiple dry orgasms through penile stimulation the issue is no matter how many variations, techniques or mind sets adopted they are not repeatable. Could you imagine your own frustrations if such a thing were to occur? to find a blissful amaazing experience but then to never be able to reach it? its been 11 years for me, i should be far more along than most here, yet i feel its one step forward two steps back with this process.


   
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Yeah for sure I understand the frustration. When I first had my success getting re wired about 2 years ago, the first 2-3 weeks were amazing. I couldn't stop orgasming. It was like I was having aftershocks from my session. If my partner touched me, or came home and said something to turn me on (or even just took his shirt off and turned me on), I'd have an orgasm. It was so hot. We were out at a bar one night a few days after I first got re wired and I was orgasming cause I was turned on. Even walking on the street home from a friends place, I'd start to feel orgasms building and have to stop walking to let the feeling pass so I didn't start orgasming on the sidewalk. LOL. But then all of a sudden, it was over. About 2 weeks later, I couldn't have any multiple orgasms. The next few sessions were duds. It was pretty disappointing. But then over the weeks that followed, the success in sessions got more frequent, and the months that followed became consistent. It's now just how it is and a default way of being - that is, I can't not have multiple orgasms. The only exception is with myself - I could start jerking off and keep going and just cum. But if I'm having sex, that's almost impossible. My arousal is usually higher I think, and I always have multiple orgasms during sex now - and they start really fast. Like within 30 seconds of starting. The only downside I've found with it, is minor... during the first few minutes of sex, especially if I am on top (I don't mean fucking, I mean literally on top of someone) I get very close to ejaculating very fast. Much faster than I use to. So I have to be very careful if in that position for the first few minutes and first few orgasms. Once I get going through, I have amazing control and can go for hours and dozens of orgasms.

If a lay down on my back to start, that problem isn't there.

Anyways, sorry to go off on a tangent there.


   
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No worries! So in those rewiring days what devices did you use? And what of the techniques observed?


   
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I had an Aneros Classic (similar to Aneros MGX - it used to be the only one they had!) for about 10 years. But I really wasn't trying very much to have multiple orgasms with it. I put it in and waited for something to happen a few times - nothing. I really believed the whole thing was a myth. It still felt sorta good, especially when I was cumming, so I used it on/off for almost 10 years. Maybe a total of 30-40 times. So really infrequent.

In July 2015, I started reading more about multiple orgasms. Especially on this site, which I think has the best information. I think I tried to use an Aneros Helix twice, but wasn't getting any better results (I bought it cause it seemed like people recommended it for someone starting out). Then I bought an Aneros Progasm Ice, and tried to smoke some weed too, and had multiple orgasms a few minutes after I put that in. It was really amazing, laying there and having my body respond like that. It was so different than anything I'd ever felt before. I tend to think it was the Progasm Ice that lead to the success more than the weed, because even now, the Aneros Helix just doesn't work that well for me, even if I smoke weed. The Progasm Ice almost always gives me orgasms, sober or after smoking weed.

So I had to buy 3 models before I found one that worked. Not really a big deal, I think you just have to accept that this is about exploring, learning, and trying things. You are going to try things that work and things that don't. It sorta opened up a new world for me. I started being much more willing to experiment and try new things with an open mind. I kept buying toys and trying - most are like Aneros, so like $20-$50, but I have two that are over $300 and one that costs closer to $1600 since I had to import it from USA, pay duties, exchange rate, shipping, etc. (fortunately, that one was worth the money - and had a 45 day trial period anyways).

As for method, I think it's closest to the do nothing method from what I can gather. I just lay there, relax, and pay attention to what i feel. In the case of using aneros, especially Progasm Ice, it's easy to feel it there! So I pay attention to what that feels like to just be sitting in my butt. I might start thinking....Does it ache a little, does it feel almost like it hurts, does it feel like it feels good? Is it feeling better as each few seconds pass by, or about the same, or is that ache getting more "sore"? Does the area I'm feeling things feel like its growing, or getting smaller? Did I feel that little slight movement of 1mm, did that feel good? Is my butt getting more relaxed or more tense? Does it feel like I'm gripping the toy, or is it just sitting there. Am I starting to grip it harder? Am I relaxed enough that any muscle contractions, twitching, gripping, or tensing is happening involuntarily? [if it isn't, then I completely relax and start again]

All those thoughts and questions are going through my head as I lay there. It's not like I'm running through a checklist. But I'm constantly asking myself those types of questions, and its actually really exciting sometimes when I do. Arousal builds up, things happen, and I keep staying relaxed and focusing on those feelings. It's like a feedback loop of excitement, and then orgasms start happening.

The challenge I think for you @The_Fury is going to be your frustration. If you aren't good at meditating and clearing your head of thoughts, that's where I'd start. If I was having the same frustration as you, I think I'd have a hard time relaxing enough and enjoying enough for any results to happen.


   
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Thank you for your reply! One thing I find with the progasm ice is that the tab on the back is fery noticeable, as in it's a big distraction if I put my legs flat on the bed. The reason I put my legs flat is because my legs get tired
if have them up (feet flat on the bed)

and often using this device i find that I have the biggest bowel movements! I feel the device is so huge!


   
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My usual position is just laying on my back, legs on bed (like I'm sleeping). If my legs are up (feet flat on bed), it's not as comfortable to relax enough to get things started.

The progasm ice looks tiny compared to some of my toys. LOL. Now I want to play with the nJoy 2.0 tonight. You put an idea in my head.


   
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I took a look at the nJoy 2.0 at Amazon. Pricey toy at over 250 dollars. Yet, as men, if the toy delivers great pleasure, pleasure is what we men are all about and we will pay lots for that pleasure

You are so descriptive in your posts and I applaud you for that descriptiveness and your willingness to help other men. You write well and coherently.

Question for you: What does the nJoy 2.0 toy do for you that say the Progasm Ice does not do for you. Can you give us some of your experiences and the pleasure you derive from that particular toy? This toy may be something I may want to purchase along with my intentions to purchase a Progasm Ice. So please fill us in on what the toy does to you over and above your wonderful posts of your your Aneros and A Less pleasure

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@Turnrow - Hmmm - not sure I can say that the nJoy 2.0 does anything to me that the Progasm Ice couldn't do. They both help stimulate the nerve endings, make things feel good, and help get me to orgasm!

For what its worth, I use the Progasm Ice probably 10x more often than the nJoy 2.0 plug. The nJoy 2.0 plus is more like a special occasion type of thing, or just trying something new. What I like about it is the weight, it's a very different feeling to be having your muscles tighten up approaching orgasm and during orgasmic contraction, trying to hold onto a hunk of steel that weights over 1lb compared to the Progasm Ice which is plastic and you could probably blow off a table if you blew hard enough, LOL. And I like the way the nJoy 2.0 is curved, if you lay on your stomach, you feel all that weights just being pressed on your prostate by gravity which gets pretty exciting.

All the toys I own just feel slightly different. So when I pick something out, it's really just what I'm in the mood for. Sometimes during a session a toy just doesn't work. Last night I was using Progasm Ice but not having the results. Switched to Eupho Syn and problem was resolved 🙂


   
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@shockedwaves out of curiosity how do you know to switch from a massive tool like the progasm to one like the eupho, by comparison a twig sized object. Why would this better than the progasm which was not giving you results?

Can I also ask; do you think that contractions mean orgasms?


   
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@The_Fury - it's sort of like having a craving for a particular food. I don't KNOW the eupho will work, I just know the Progasm Ice isn't working. So then I start thinking about what toys I have to use and decide which one I'm most excited to use. There really isn't any science behind it. It's like asking "why weren't you in the mood to have chicken for dinner?"

I think contractions mean orgasm. To me, it's the buildup of sexual energy that you feel and get excited about that eventually leads to orgasm/contractions. But its very pleasurable even before the contractions start. So maybe it's an early part of orgasm. I try not to care too much about categorizing the feelings and giving them names like p-waves, orgasms, dry orgasms, super orgasms, etc. I'm happy to have all the really good feelings. Some sessions I have maybe just two or three orgasms (episodes of contractions) that aren't that strong, don't last long - but maybe i have a constant p-wave pleasurable feeling. Other sessions I have tonnes of contractions, sometimes lasting minutes. It does vary a lot.


   
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Wow ! 6 ejaculations in 6 minutes. Amazing ! Thanks for sharing !


   
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how do you know to switch from a massive tool like the progasm to one like the eupho, by comparison a twig sized object. Why would this better than the progasm which was not giving you results?

I'd suggest to not only compare the size but to keep in mind the importance of the tool's mobility. And I can tell, the "devilish little eupho"* is movin' movin' movin'! 🙂
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@shockedwaves I've loved reading through this. I found all of your videos on PornHub shortly after I got my Aneros Helix Syn, last December, and tried to find them again the other night and found this instead - two for the price of one!

And it was watching you insert the Programs Ice that made me decide to upgrade just last week to it - I bought a Progasm Jr in the process but have to say, I much prefer the fuller feeling of the Progasm over the Jr.

I haven't really had much pleasure from mine though, I have to say - I've battled with frustration and know that quieting my mind is something I need to learn how to do if I'm ever going to succeed on my journey. I see you offered someone a Skype session (kinky) maybe you should offer Skype coaching for us? 😉

I need to get away from my cock. I know how it feels to totally loose interest in a session once you grab it and stroke it until you're finished; it really doesn't help that, regardless of the toy that's in my butt, an ejaculation is made that bit harder and better by it, which makes it easier to slip back into that habit!

My question would be, having read the piece on here about re-wiring, how did you do it? You mentioned other literature and stuff, I've read The Multi-Orgasmic Man, is there anything else that you would recommend? It sounds as though you've read that, too, by the way you're talking about the buildup of sexual energy, etc.

Very much looking forward to a video with subtitles while you enjoy an Aneros session, would provide some real inspiration I imagine!


   
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Well, learning for me I think i pretty much followed the "do nothing" principle. Just let your body to the work, and focus on the good feelings. Don't think youre smarter and know the way to an orgasm better than your body does.

But after I was successful in that, i moved away from just laying there hands free. Use my hand more, just slowly edging up to that zone between orgasm and ejaculation. And now have sex that way a lot too and once at the orgasm stage, just be in control there enough not to ejaculate (made lots of mistakes doing that too, but have really good control these days after a few years of practice).

Pot helped a lot too for initial learning, and always makes my sessions a bit better today, although not required for it.


   
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Those cremaster contractions are impressive to watch. Is that something you worked on separately? Or was that just how good the waves were?


   
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