Using genital friction to obtain dry os.

Have had some of the most intense mind blowing orgasms from my Progasm Jr while doing penile stimulation! At the point of prostate orgasm I start stroking my penis which in turn, leads to Jr getting pulled into the max leading into simultaneous prostate action including pulsing and throbbing! In just a few minutes it feels like a synchronized orgasm between the anus, prostate, and penis occurs resulting in body shaking and spasms and eventually a full blown ejaculation!

Perhaps it was some type of blended orgasm. Maybe this one just happened to be weaker, and this type of orgasm may have stronger versions waiting for you. After all, penile dry orgasms typically feel like penile ejaculatory/wet orgasms since orgasm, not ejaculation, is not responsible for the pleasurable climax and the feeling of inevitability. 

I agree with the sentiment that penis stimulation can help speed up the arousal process and make other types of orgasm quicker to experience. It should not affect the so-called "rewiring"/learning/neuroplasticity process of one discovering what other regions of your body likes. 

I think the Penis, Not! approach may be good for those who want to just focus on only region of stimulation in isolation and those who do not have much control over ejaculation, especially in cases of premature ejaculation. Stimulation in isolation can help one recognize the sensations that stimulating a region can create in the body, even if it does not lead to an orgasm for an individual in isolation.

For me, penis stimulation, especially multiple dry penile-induced orgasms increase arousal so much so that other forms of orgasm, like multiple internal/external anal orgasms, are easier and quicker. Instead of waiting hours, within a few minutes, I'm having multiple orgasms and multiple types of orgasms.

I do not recall a Clitoris, Not! approach being recommended for females who want to experience, say, anal orgasms. Also, just as many females cannot orgasm with only vaginal stimulation, the same is the case for bottoms who may be expected to orgasm or ejaculate hands free and anal/prostate toy users. Likewise, there may be a certain segment who will have difficulty having another type of orgasm without penile stimulation. So from this lens, why not?

For numerous reasons and also reasons unknown, the majority of males might have a challenge experiencing multiple orgasms and other types of orgasms. For instance, since there is no statistic for males, Umit Sayin estimates that nearly 10% to 15% of the female population can develop some capacity for extended sexual response, which includes multiple orgasms and other types of orgasms (https://www.medtextpublications.com/open-access/five-cases-with-expanded-sexual-response-esr-122.pdf&source=gmail&ust=1683135960110000&usg=AOvVaw0d7Es7JjryeeJsb58nNDc A"> https://www.medtextpublications.com/open-access/five-cases-with-expanded-sexual-response-esr-122.pdf ). He also estimates that less than 1% of the female population can enter status orgasmus. I imagine this is even less common for males. I'm fortunate to enter status orgasmus frequently. Perhaps, in the future, a better understanding about what tends to be most effective for multiple orgasms and different types of orgasms and why can increase the percentage of males who experience extended sexual response.

With a partner I have dry orgasms from penis stimulation, both during PIV and anal sex and from just rubbing my cock against a woman’s tummy. I can get them from SM games that pinch and nip and scratch and prick my… prick. And lastly I get them from having my balls played with. Actually the latter is my most common way of achieving multiple orgasms with a partner, and it gets me 5-20 minute long chains of orgasms.  

Alone some amount of penis play leads to dry orgasms, gently touching, pinching, scratching, rubbing against pillows, stroking the crown very slowly with lubes… But I don’t go for too long, as it can easily lead to me wanting to just masturbate and ejaculate.

I've found that I can trigger endless small (dry) orgasms with gentle frenulum stimulation. The pace and level of stimulation can't be aggressive enough to build any progress toward an ejaculatory orgasm. What seems to work is just the lightest of touches, either a gentle guitar string pluck motion or small slow circles. The orgasms that result are small and short; a 5-10s duration that would be typical of a normal penile orgasm. And they feel very much like a traditional ejaculation, to the point where it actually feels like cum is shooting but nothing is happening. And because there's no real ejaculation, there's no refractory period, so I can do these over and over with just seconds of rest between each O.

So far I have only done this after coming down from a Super-O when starting to transition into stimulating myself for an ejaculation. I discovered this accidentally and learned the right level of stimulation to trigger dry-Os reliably and now I absolutely love doing this and will do it for 10-15m before moving on to a Super-T. 

I have a few sex toys: different prostate vibrators as well as penis vibrators.  The closest I ever came to finding true prostate orgasms, I was using the Rocks-Off Naughty Boy in my ass and also the Fun Factory Cobra Libre II on my dick, that was around 2015/2016.  The problem I found was that it was incredibly hard to stop before the point of no return and finding a balance between the penis and prostate where you could coast into a prostate orgasm without it fizzling away was extremely difficult, plus it took 1-1.5hrs to get to that point where it might work.  I tried a few more times around 2018-2019 but didn't get there, gave it up for a dead end. 

But just a few weeks ago I came back to it, using the Helix Syn Trident V this time, but still with the Cobra Libre.  Again I didn't find the right time to coast into a prostate orgasm because my self-control just isn't there yet.  But I could feel it coming on, it's like an elongated feeling of impending orgasm and should happen and just doesn't, the feelings just keep growing and growing, intensifying.  And it gets to the point where I start almost screaming in a pleading way, like I'm begging my body to let me come, and this last time I allowed myself to go over the edge of an ejaculatory orgasm rather than come down frustrated.  I went this route after having a less-than-satisfactory session with no penis stimulation so it was kind of like a frustrated last resort, but now I wonder if it's time to explore this area more. 

I've never found direct manual stimulation of my penis to be a good way to get close to this state, it never has worked for me in the past.  But if you're willing to spend the cash, something like the Cobra Libre might be an interesting tool for your tool box (the red/black one is on sale from Amazon at a significant discount too, as I write this).  I would stay away from the Hot Octopuss though, it's just far too powerful (I have that one too).  But I've found that it's the lowest settings that will work here, as most of the stimulation should be on the prostate.  And this last time I tried it, setting 1 wasn't enough to get me there but setting 2 definitely sent me toward penis orgasm.  I tried to back off down to setting 1 but did it far too late to stave off ejaculation, though it did take quite a lot longer.  I could have taken it off and come down a bit before trying again but I just didn't have the self-control. 

The other night I was trying an Aneros session..felt good..but left me frustrated and disappointed as usual (I have only managed ONE HFWO).  I switched to my fake Njoy Wand and experimented with different spots.  I actually felt some feelings (like a 9v battery when you lick it) when rubbing the right side of my prostate area (directly to my right).  I don't know if I found a better spot to stimulate or if it was just something new..but I was enjoying.  After failing to orgasm I played with a small bullet vibrator..first on my frenulum (after reading iceman disciple's posts), but I had much more sensation from the middle bottom of my dick.

I gently moved the bullet vibrator around that spot (middle bottom of penis) with one hand while working the Njoy wand on my prostate are with the other hand.  That pushed me over the edge and I had a good wet orgasm.  Hardly hands fere..but not by jerking off at least. 😉

Last night I thought I'd try it again.  I put on a latex mesh sleeve toy with a tiny vibrator in the bottom middle.  The little vibrator had dead batteries so I crammed the bullet vibrator in along the bottom side my my penis.  I didn't turn it on yet..wanted to try the Njoy Wand a while first.  It felt good but didn't get me there.  Once I turned on the bullet vibrator I got hard and soon my Njoy wand prostate play drove me over the edge.  It was wet for sure but felt good.  Maybe doing this will train my body to more readily orgasm when using the wand.  I can't do much for prostate orgasms but maybe this blend will help get things going.  It's a small accomplishment to use my internal stimulation to push me to orgasm without jerking off at all...even though I did have vibrations on my penis.

@hankey01 vibration does nothing for me. Maybe try again and ditch the vibrator. I just use my fingers to very slowly, gently stroke and rub the lubricated frenulum area