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I am still new to Aneros (one month) and learning as best I can. The discussions here have been really helpful in guiding me as a total novice. I have a question.

I have found there are two phases in my experience which alternate. When I relax totally between the intense moments when the helix moves by itself, I experience warm waves that pass through me. My whole body becomes totally relaxed and passive, letting itself sink into the bed. These are quite different from the intense feelings in my prostate when the helix pushes hard against it. But after a time that subsides and all my muscles relax again and the helix retreats. In this retreated state I have these warm feelings pass over me. They can become intense in their own gentle way and seem more emotional than physical. I feel I could just bathe in them endlessly. But they gradually set my heart pulsing again and then then Helix begins to stir once more, leading to intense physical pleasure as the helix slowly quivers and pushes.

Can anyone say anything about these two phases? I ask because at first I thought the relaxed phase was just an intermission from the intense phase. And because I thought it was a 'waiting time' for things to start again I ignored it. But now it seems I should bask in this as much as in the intense phase.


   
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Are you practicing the 'Do-Nothing' technique? Or are you actively performing contractions? Maybe a combination of the two? If Do-Nothing, IMHO it is normal to vary between auto-f*** contractions "the helix moves by itself" and the true resting "warm feelings" phase. Just remember don't try to 'analyze' the session while it is happening. Just sink into the pleasures of the session! Keep your mind open to all possibilities. Quiet the brain and just experience! Also remember that your next experience may be ENTIRELY different from a previous one. Be prepared for a surprise! Good luck!


   
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Tho I am over two years into the Aneros experience, I am relatively new to the Helix. It appears to move more freely than the Vice and Progasm that I am used to. I love the autof$%^ing feeling that I have experience with all three of my Aneros products. I have also experienced it with no-aneros products as well. I agree with Glodenboy, try not to analyze i to much because each session can be wildly different than the one before. Happy riding !


   
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Thank you Goldenboy and awired50 for your thoughts.

Yes, I have adopted the Do-Nothing technique. This is partly because at the beginning I was trying to 'make something happen' by performing contractions. I think at first I was not knowing what would happen and so it was hard to simply lie back and see what happens. It was only when I read about the Do-Nothing method that I was able to allow things to take their own course. Even if nothing happened.

I take your advice not to analyse a session while it is happening. Again, as a total beginner it is hard not to do that. It is only in time that I will be able to just allow things to occur. I suppose analysing is the sister mistake to trying to attain the Super-O. I think I at least avoided that one.

I am still curious about the emotional side of the experience, as distinct from the pure pleasure side. One of the members of the forum posted an amazing account of how his experience went to a kind of mystical love for all humanity. This seems to connect the practice with types of yoga.


   
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As usual for me, as a str8 male, it's difficult to find the words to describe most aspects of Aneros sessions.

I offer my adopted label though for the rather constant "warm-waves + passive relaxation" phase. I call that "Calm Seas" because @brine used to label one of this "extended" phases with those words. I think @Voyager might have also used the term.

For me it seems to be a 'resting phase' sort of mode...like up-shifting and lugging the engine to cruise in Overdrive. It's a nice place to hold for several minutes before starting a stim routine that will perhaps lead me into a "Kundalini", "full body" or 'low core' dry-O. Calm Seas is a fairly easy state to maintain with just a bit of soft belly breathing, gentle nip work or slow shaft or testicle touching.


   
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Thank you rook where you say:

For me it seems to be a 'resting phase' sort of mode...like up-shifting and lugging the engine to cruise in Overdrive. It's a nice place to hold for several minutes before starting a stim routine that will perhaps lead me into a "Kundalini", "full body" or 'low core' dry-O. Calm Seas is a fairly easy state to maintain with just a bit of soft belly breathing, gentle nip work or slow shaft or testicle touching.

Your experience is very helpful to me as a novice. It is very hard to get beyond the stage of wanting something to happen for beginners.

Here is an update on my experience, where I have taken on board your advice. I have had some very nice sessions, some more intense than others. The other day I had a bus journey to make for about an hour and I found myself roused almost all the time. I am not sure if it was the sensation of travel or some very good looking young people (either sex) on the bus that set this off. But I had a boner the whole journey and could feel fluttering and buzzing in my groin and balls. Also I could feel my heart beating harder. It was a bit embarrassing and I had to keep my hands covering my lap in case anyone say my swelling. This only happened because I have been practising with the syn. I was not expecting it to have effects afterwards, let alone in public.

In the evening when I returned home and after a meal I had a session. I thought all that feeling on the bus would contribute to provoking a strong session. I was quite wrong. After an initial stirring after the Syn was in all feelings faded away to nothing. I waited patiently – because I prefer the 'do-nothing' approach – but still nothing happened. So I tried the other practice of gently using my muscles to move the Syn slightly, but even this made no feelings. So I gave up after an hour and accepted this was a session my body was not ready for or interested in. It seems that being aroused does not always make for a good session.

After this I thought about something that has been a bit of a question from the beginning, my position and how to completely relax. I have found the only position that works for me is lying on my back, knees raised and legs apart. I notice quite a few members here adopt this position. In this position I feel open and exposed and already that feels sexy. Lying on my side or belly does not feel sexy at all, but closed in and a turn off. I think there may be an element of being ready for a partner on the position I like, so that I could be caressed and kissed.

But there was a problem with this position. It seems almost impossible to completely relax my legs because some muscles are gently holding them in place and so my groin is not completely relaxed. So I wondered how I could take this position without any muscles holding at all, so that every part of my body could be totally relaxed and sink or fall into the soft bed, so to speak. Thinking about this I wondered if my legs could be held in that position with support. I thought I would try putting a box on the bed on which I could rest my raised legs. I tried this, with a cushion on the box. This made a huge difference.

In this position I could now lose all tension in my body, yet with my legs raised and apart so that my buttocks were free and exposed. So I just relaxed in this very comfortable position for about 10 minutes, doing nothing at all, not even thinking, but just enjoying my whole body completely without any stress. Then some tingling started in my scrotum and around my buttocks. Even my feet felt a nice tingle, which was something entirely new. I maintained 'do-nothing' and just left my body to do its own thing. This meant resisting the temptation to tense slightly around my anus or in my tummy. I just let these slight tensions go, like letting my muscles fall into passivity. My legs resting in the box made this much easier. The stirrings increased as I relaxed more, and swift, faint tingling sensations shot around various parts of my body. These were quite new and extremely enjoyable.

The syn then began to flutter and slowly seeks its way inside, touching different points hard to describe, as if moving from side to side or even rolling round. I began to get an erection but kept my attention on staying relaxed and on the Syn inside, rather than on my penis. The more I kept relaxed the stronger the feelings. Also my erection felt different. It was powered by itself and had no force of mine in it. I think it is a male characteristic to put force into one's penis when erect, as though driving it oneself. But here it swelled by itself with my groin muscles completely relaxed. It then felt more a part of my whole body and was surrounded by a halo of warm feelings.

After a time this state subsided and my penis went flaccid. But as all these feeling subsided, and the syn retreated another kind of feelings began to stir in my abdomen and my chest and my heart began to race. Then a huge wave passed through me, almost too much to bear. This was mingled with feelings like my first masturbation as a teen. It was innocent feelings, feelings given as a gift without any desire. I simply submitted, allowed it all to be, still maintaining the relaxed state of my body. The feeling of being relaxed fused with the feeling of being sexually wide open. Yet this felt masculine, not feminine, and maybe questions the popular stereotypes.

This amazing orgasm – I think I may now say I had an orgasm – repeated thee times and then I felt fulfilled and it was enough, even though I believe it could have occurred perhaps a few more times.

So now it was time to go properly to bed, so I cleared up and went to bed. I should perhaps mention here that I wear pyjamas in bed at night. Our family all wore pyjamas, so for me they are part of the ritual of bed time. But they are also part of my ritual of teenage masturbation, when part of the excitement was to lower the bottom half of my pyjamas to play with myself. So pyjamas have a sexual connotation for me of undressing for sex, and dressing again afterwards. I have never slept properly naked in bed.

I mention this because becoming aroused has lots of small contributing associations. Sex for me is not blatant but a mystery, a gift from nature. That is why I find most porn totally unsexy, where partners bash each other to pieces with insane physical force. They are pretending to enjoy and you can tell it is fake and that they do not really know much about sexual feeling. The only porn that I find arousing is amateur porn of real sexual encounters. But I would rather look at photos of natural beautiful bodies for arousal, male or female. I mention all this because I feel, at least for me, it is all bound up with sexual feelings and enjoyment and intensity. Trying to take sex by force is the opposite of real sexual feeling.

I was very lucky yesterday to have been given such an amazing experience. And it is very helpful being here reading everyone's advice on this forum, which is the only place I have found where men talk about their sexual lives sanely and without crudeness or showing off. I hope what I have said is useful to other beginners, most especially about how I found a way of completely relaxing.

Looking forward to learning more from this nice family.


   
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