Translating Japanes...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Translating Japanese Aneros Material


Zentai
(@zentai)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1470
Topic starter  

I stumbled on some Japanese Aneros instructional videos, and while the translating tools from Google are helping a lot, when some guy is going crazy on a whiteboard, it's just not working. I was wondering is someone here is fluent in Japanese and could go over some of these videos and give us a quick summary of the content so we can see if they contain any new, possibly ground-breaking info ?


   
Gulliver reacted
Quote
Zentai
(@zentai)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1470
Topic starter  

If you guys want to have some fun with this and explore a little : 

前立腺オルガスム : prostate orgasm

メスイキ : dry orgasm

Pasting these in your favorite browser will return never-seen-before (to me) diagrams,
devices and photos, there's bound to be some gold nuggets of knowledge to be found.

   
Helghast, Helghast, Helghast and 1 people reacted
ReplyQuote
Helghast
(@helghast)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1422
 

@zentai

Jesus,I can just about handle English never mind hieroglyphics 😉

 


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
Zentai
(@zentai)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1470
Topic starter  

That's where you need to use your imagination ! Seriously it's a brand new world of prostates with emoji faces on them. I also saw a picture explaining that men with smaller penises have larger prostates (??) and lots of head-scratching stuff. To be fair there's a ton of material but I don't understand 95% of it, I hardly know what I'm looking at. 


   
Helghast, Helghast, Helghast and 1 people reacted
ReplyQuote
Helghast
(@helghast)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1422
 

So small dick mf’s should have no problem with prostate orgasm and anal sex bahhahahaha! 
Im not so sure about that one.;)


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
Zentai
(@zentai)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1470
Topic starter  

@helghastà

Hehe I don't think it's true, but it was just super strange to see this, right or wrong it's a brand new information to me and I can only imagine what else is just (linguistically) out of reach.  

 


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
rumel
(@rumel)
Illustrious Member Customer
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 4069
 

I took a look at some of the sites and used Google translate to read their description about how to go about obtaining prostate orgasms. Most of the descriptions pretty much matched what we discuss here on the Aneros Forums. I did however find a few interesting facts. The Aneros is known as the Enemagra in Japan. The difference between the two is the manufacturer of the devices. Enemagra is owned by Kokando Co., Ltd. in Japan, Aneros is owned by High Island Health LLC in the United States. They have evolved to produce different designs of prostate massagers. A fan of the device even wrote a 330-page book called Enemagra Holy Scripture: The Complete Manual of Dry Orgasm. I'd like to see a translated version of that book.

I'm not inclined to go through the tedium of translating all those Japanese websites in hopes of uncovering some novel information to help my fellow Aneros users, I think we have plenty of good information already available here. I did view one porn site with videos of prostate massager use and it had clips virtually identical to those you can view on Pornhub or similar XXX websites, so there's not anything new there.

Posted by: @zentai

I also saw a picture explaining that men with smaller penises have larger prostates (??) and lots of head-scratching stuff.

I didn't see that but I think that's a myth generated to exploit fears associated with Alpha/Beta male illusory fantasies. I'd seen a similar claim in a femdom erotic story regarding 'sissification'. In fact, larger penis size correlates to larger prostactic volume, please see Correlation between the Penile Size and Prostatic Volume.

Good Vibes to You!


   
Helghast, Zentai, Helghast and 4 people reacted
ReplyQuote
Zentai
(@zentai)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1470
Topic starter  

@rumel

Posted by: @rumel

I took a look at some of the sites and used Google translate to read their description about how to go about obtaining prostate orgasms. Most of the descriptions pretty much matched what we discuss here on the Aneros Forums.

It does appear to be that way. I don't expect to see major differences but sometimes, just the way the information is presented can make a difference. Like when @Helghast put a different spin on the Anchored Tension idea, which was old news for some users, but just clicked for others. 

I was wondering about the relationship between Aneros and Enemagra. Some Enemagra models are really baroque, while others look more like variations on Aneros models. The Iguana model is certainly something I'd try...

Posted by: @rumel

I'm not inclined to go through the tedium of translating all those Japanese websites in hopes of uncovering some novel information to help my fellow Aneros users, I think we have plenty of good information already available here.

You're right, this is probably not worth it. Still, there are some fairly elaborate video presentations with people discussing technique, and I'm curious about what's in there.  While I can always skim articles with Google Translate and get a feel for them, with spoken words there's just that impassable barrier...   

Posted by: @rumel

I didn't see that but I think that's a myth generated to exploit fears associated with Alpha/Beta male illusory fantasies. I'd seen a similar claim in a femdom erotic story regarding 'sissification'.

I'm almost 100% sure this is a myth, too. It's just strange that I had never heard of this from the English or French side of the web, and it pops up in another language.  

 

 

 


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
rumel
(@rumel)
Illustrious Member Customer
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 4069
 
Posted by: @zentai

I don't expect to see major differences but sometimes, just the way the information is presented can make a difference. of good information already available here.
...Still, there are some fairly elaborate video presentations with people discussing technique, and I'm curious about what's in there.  While I can always skim articles with Google Translate and get a feel for them, with spoken words there's just that impassable barrier... 

I think there is a cultural aspect to the Japanese approach that we may not really comprehend. One thing I noticed in the Google translations I read was the repeated equating of prostate dry orgasms with female orgasms. While I have seen references like this in western instructions/information it is not nearly as prevalent as in the Japanese instructions/information. I think this is an example of a differing cultural attitude that I find interesting and perhaps some further reading is warranted.

Good Vibes to You!

 


   
Zentai, Zentai, Zentai and 1 people reacted
ReplyQuote
helical
(@helical)
Honorable Member Customer
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 273
 
Posted by: @zentai

or French side of the web

Hi, @zentai, not to detract from the Japan subject, but is there anything good in Le Traité D’Aneros , or elsewhere in the French site NXPL?  I can take this to a new thread if desired.  Thanks.

 

 


   
Zentai, Zentai, Zentai and 1 people reacted
ReplyQuote
Zentai
(@zentai)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1470
Topic starter  

Le Traité d'Aneros is quite good, I have a copy I printed years ago and I go trough it once in a while. I feel its aimed towards beginners mostly, covering toy selection, lube selection, what a Super-O is etc. The technique is straightforward and works good in my opinion, it's not wildly different from what you'll find in the Wiki. 

NXPL's "prostate orgasm" forum has good info, again the subjects are similar to what we discuss here from what I can remember, it's been a while since I visited. It's a respectful and friendly place just like here, too. 


   
Morexp, helical, Morexp and 4 people reacted
ReplyQuote
Zentai
(@zentai)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1470
Topic starter  
Posted by: @rumel

One thing I noticed in the Google translations I read was the repeated equating of prostate dry orgasms with female orgasms.

I saw this, too, also some tidbits about "dressing like a woman making it easier to rewire". Some strategies are clearly different than what we're used to, I wonder what else we can find. Also, the Enemagra book is intriguing, but it seems impossible to get one. The content will probably forever remain a mystery... 


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
Avatar for Author
(@divine_o)
Noble Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 902
 

@helical from what I recall, the traité (which I read twice as an introduction to prostate play three years ago) is a very user friendly version version of the wiki gspot, replete with emojis. It takes a more subjective stance, with the author Adam using “I” quite frequently.  I prefer the wiki gspot page because it fees more professional in its objectivity. In terms of cultural differences between France and America, there aren’t enough to warrant a fully different take on prostate play, and perusing their forum yields the same types of conversations one finds here. 

 


   
helical, helical, helical and 1 people reacted
ReplyQuote
Helghast
(@helghast)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1422
 

@rumel

Posted by: @rumel

I didn't see that but I think that's a myth generated to exploit fears associated with Alpha/Beta male illusory fantasies. I'd seen a similar claim in a femdom erotic story regarding 'sissification'.

Yes of course it is haha! On our reading up of anal orgasm challenges and the like,we stumbled across this too. They say small dick men are beta males with large prostates which are easily stimulated by large alpha dicks,resulting in HFWO from anal sex,sissygasms etc. I did chuckle. If anything,I’d have thought the alpha would be the one with the large gland packed out with dihydrotestosterone since it’s much more potent that garden variety test,giving him all his ‘manliness’ hahahaha. I read somewhere the Far East has the smallest dick size in the world. That’s probably how they connect small dick,aneros and gland size. And guys say it’s westerners with the hang ups hahahahahaha.

 


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
Zentai
(@zentai)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1470
Topic starter  
Posted by: @helghast

hey say small dick men are beta males with large prostates which are easily stimulated by large alpha dicks,resulting in HFWO from anal sex,sissygasms etc.

Aaah, I see what the concept is now ! Of course this does not make sense, I thought this was only some random idea/theory about prostate location, but then it turns out to be about alpha/beta stuff... 

 


   
Helghast, Helghast, Helghast and 1 people reacted
ReplyQuote
Helghast
(@helghast)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1422
 

@zentai

I would imagine all our glands are roughly the same size and roughly in the same location. Sure there could be some variety for heights etc. I don’t know,I find Japanese lean toward the feminine side of things. A lot of hentai stuff is quite child like too. It wouldn’t  surprise me if they see the journey as something other than ‘manly’.

 


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
Avatar for Author
(@bigglansdc)
Member Adventurer
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 1706
 
Posted by: @rumel

I took a look at some of the sites and used Google translate to read their description about how to go about obtaining prostate orgasms. Most of the descriptions pretty much matched what we discuss here on the Aneros Forums. I did however find a few interesting facts. The Aneros is known as the Enemagra in Japan. The difference between the two is the manufacturer of the devices. Enemagra is owned by Kokando Co., Ltd. in Japan, Aneros is owned by High Island Health LLC in the United States. They have evolved to produce different designs of prostate massagers. A fan of the device even wrote a 330-page book called Enemagra Holy Scripture: The Complete Manual of Dry Orgasm. I'd like to see a translated version of that book.

I'm not inclined to go through the tedium of translating all those Japanese websites in hopes of uncovering some novel information to help my fellow Aneros users, I think we have plenty of good information already available here. I did view one porn site with videos of prostate massager use and it had clips virtually identical to those you can view on Pornhub or similar XXX websites, so there's not anything new there.

Posted by: @zentai

I also saw a picture explaining that men with smaller penises have larger prostates (??) and lots of head-scratching stuff.

I didn't see that but I think that's a myth generated to exploit fears associated with Alpha/Beta male illusory fantasies. I'd seen a similar claim in a femdom erotic story regarding 'sissification'. In fact, larger penis size correlates to larger prostactic volume, please see Correlation between the Penile Size and Prostatic Volume.

Good Vibes to You!

@rumel, I second your recommendation of an English translation of the book, Ememagra Holy Scripture: The Complete Manual of Dry Orgasm. I wonder if we can commission the English translation of this work through an agreement with the Japanese author. I wonder if there sections in the book on using nipple diddling to create dry orgasms. As many of you know, I have that facility when I diddle my nipples for sexual satisfaction many nights in bed! 

This post was modified 2 years ago by BigGlansDC

   
ReplyQuote
Zentai
(@zentai)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1470
Topic starter  

@bigglansdc

I found this old thread : The Enemagra Bible

Now I wonder how good the book actually is ?

On a similar train of thoughts, the Enemagra's inventor has a YouTube Channel, in Japanese, where he talks about technique. There are several hours of videos. Maybe getting a transcript so we can  plug it into a translation software would be worth it ? I tried with the auto subtitles but had very little luck... I wonder if there is a way to contact this gentleman, but I also don't know about the intricacies of the relationship between Aneros and Enemagra and what they share, maybe Aneros team can help here ? 

 


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
rumel
(@rumel)
Illustrious Member Customer
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 4069
 
Posted by: @zentai

I found this old thread : The Enemagra Bible

Wow, I remember that thread now some 13+ years later, what I responded to then I still think today, it would be fun to see a translated version of it, if for no other reason than to get some chuckles from it.

Posted by: @zentai

Now I wonder how good the book actually is ?

In that thread @B_Mayfield indicated it was of limited value. Now remember that was 13+ years ago and in the intervening years there has been much new information promulgated on this Forum which probably exceeds the value of that 'Bible'.

Good Vibes to You!


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
Zentai
(@zentai)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1470
Topic starter  

@rumel

You're right, it probably would be a fun read if nothing else, and it would be nice to see what was "state of the art" (maybe ?) all these years ago compared to the knowledge we have available now. If it really held all the secrets to the Super-O, I guess it would be a worldwide best-seller... B_mayfield must be right, maybe the book's value is more as a conversation piece. Still, I'd be curious to hold a copy and see the wacky illustrations for myself. 

 

 

 


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
Avatar for Author
(@bubbaducky)
New Member Customer
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 1
 

Does anyone already have a copy of this book? I am intrigued. I do not read/understand Japanese in the slightest, but i can Google translate (with scanned pages). 

 

Also note: This book is not available in Kindle format.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/aw/d/B00HSF2VQG/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
Zentai
(@zentai)
Famed Member Customer
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1470
Topic starter  

@bubbaducky

I'm also curious, but can't find a way to get a (second-hand) copy delivered here in Canada for a reasonable price. It's just not worth $70+ to me without knowing anything about the content... 

Edit : You can read the first 2-3 chapters on the Amazon link. Chapter two is on nipple enlargement, obviously to make them more sensitive. A little extreme to start with permanent body modifications, on the other hand, if your life is focused on Super-Os and getting more and better ones... I don't know. It looks old for some reason, like a book written in the 80's rather than 2004. 

Google Translate gives me this on the author : 

Born in Tokyo. Publisher of Life Reinstallation Magazine "Six Samana". Debuted as a travel writer traveling in Asia in the early 90's. After that, he wrote books related to Western games, telephone, survival, and enemagra. He is also a crisis management professional who has encountered and survived various troubles such as robbery damage, burglary damage, fire, traffic accident (hit and run in Phnom Penh), etc.

The last "Six Samana" book was published in 2021 so at the very least, the man is still writing. That's about as far as I can get with 0 Japanese skill. 


   
Gulliver reacted
ReplyQuote
Share:
Skip to toolbar