This product is a total disappointment

Well said Pan. I don't like jumping into these "mosh pits" as they usually lead nowhere. However, I arrived at some thoughts and I thought I would present them.

Kermis,

When I first learned of this product, I too saw it on what I will call a third party website, or a re-seller of others products. I was rather skeptical of their dubious sounding claims. So before buying I researched and cross-referenced as best as I could (no doubt far from exhaustive), and made sure I spent time reading about the Aneros from its source site. Then I was able to see the incongruent nature of the reseller websites; the actual makers of the product designed it as purely a health aid. I understand finding out all the information on a product on the Internet can sometimes be nigh impossible, however in this case said information was out there. If you restricted your reading to only the reseller websites I am sorry, but there is not much one can say to that (at least for now, keep reading). This statement is not to belittle your ability to research topics, believe me I've done the same thing from time to time, I think we all do.

Now I eventually took leap of faith and figured I would try it. I have been pleased with the results. But I understand that my results are not a guarantee for everyone. I think what we need to come away from this is that the old standby remains true: caveat emptor. Or more modernly: YMMV. I have seen and tried many miraculous sex toys over the years and have seen many of them as a waste of money and plastic. Every industry will do its best to advertise and promote its product, some resort to trickery sometimes; no where is this more evident than the Porn industry.

Sex sells. Sex and masturbation are powerful drugs and there are those that can become dangerously addicted to them. Simple advertisements of "quick and easy orgasms" can often push products out if people are powerfully drawn to those feelings. And then you open the box and you see this pathetic looking collection of plastic and tubes and realize you're just not horny enough to get aroused by it. And of course being the type of products they are, returning them for restocking is generally not an option.

So, I've pontificated for a bit and I'll wrap up to a point and hopefully helpful suggestion. What is it that you want to accomplish Kermis? May I humbly suggest that the method chosen thus far is probably going to be ineffectual at solving the core problem. And the core problem? Would I be safe to assume it is a strong feeling of false advertising? That you are being led on in a scam? In this case as in many others, issues aren't solved by being reactive but rather by being proactive. Instigating and fueling (I don't think that was your original intention) a flame war is what I would consider being reactive to the situation.

My thoughts on being proactive? If I was disappointed by false advertising I would see what I could do to change that. Perhaps emails or better still phone calls to the actual producers of the Aneros. I would see if they are able to divulge their marketing strategy and let you know what ability they have to control advertisement of their product. Perhaps there is a way for the company to revise it's agreement with its resellers that require a more valid description of the process, or at least require a link back to the parent company site. Perhaps it is out of HIH's hands and you need to contact the resellers themselves. I do not know what the solution is and I have a feeling that the battle for attaining true truth in porn advertising could be a long and arduous one. But if you feel real strong about this, why not work to get some advertisement rules changed? However, I don't think you can change peoples opinions that they had "enhanced orgasms" and as such, descriptions of that can and should continue to exist in the forums. If someone truly felt better during orgasm with the Aneros, I am sure their feeling is just as valid as your's is from not having an increase in orgasm quality.

Being overly reactive tends to breed more reaction, and like the chemists of old, you never truly know what will spring up when combining things together. Hence the erratic drift and tone of this thread. Myself, I can understand your pain and I feel that the advertisements you linked to are rather over-aggrandizing. They felt to me like they were trying to over-hype this new bandwagon so they could get a good jump on it. Frankly I was rather turned off by their descriptions, mostly because it sounded too much like a good thing (instant, no work orgasms). However, their descriptions of the pleasure achievable are correct (from my point of view).

I do not have the time or inclination to try and change this system; I merely try to keep myself abreast of the way it works so I can understand and hopefully spot falsehoods before I get burned by them. I hope you do not consider me lazy in this regard, it's just right now I have to prioritize other things in my life as more deserving of my attention.

*Edit: I just read your post detailing scams. And I can agree with your inclination to feel like this is a scam. Along similar lines as I discussed above, how might we all strive towards a solution that helps alleviate this perception?

I hope I made some sense here. Good luck. Perhaps you can help change the system for the better and allow future customers to hopefully have a more informed set of information.

Thanks for a well-written and thought-provoking post, Mindgasm. You are exactly right that it is the sense of false advertising that has motivated me. The site from which I purchased this neither posted my feedback concerning the product in their "review" section nor responded to any inquiries/comments I sent via email which does indeed reinforce the phase caveat emptor. In short, it seems their efforts were to completely ignore any dissatisfaction on the part of the customer. As for the reseller sites you mentioned, I suppose I should blame myself for allowing any of the grandiose claims found thereon to influence my purchasing decision.

Money spent (needlessly in my view) on this product is one small factor here; the time spent is of deeper concern. However, adding more time wasted onto the pile with more endeavors to restate my case on this forum won't change anything. I will take my grievances further with the appropriate parties as you suggested. I do not necessarily believe that any site which carries the Aneros will be persuaded to post detailed negative feedback in their testimonials section nor change their advertising to state "Some users have invested great efforts in this to no avail, so please keep in mind you may not see results." However, one has to look at what one can reasonably accomplish, make efforts to do so and then cut one's losses when the time is appropriate. The quote by Nietzsche regarding monsters comes to mind in these scenarios. Thanks once more for your insight.

To Kermis and all those who have responded to this thread,

I know that I'm coming into this late and at a time when this is nearing a resolution, but I spent some time last night getting up to speed on what took place here and I have a few observations to make.

First, it seems that we have a user (Kermis) who really wanted to be heard. Outside of some early responses that were dismissive, there were many thoughtful responses that demonstrated that he was indeed being heard, although perhaps not on his own terms at all times. I think the mistake that was made here, if there was one, was the assumption by many of our members that this was a learning issue, one that could be ameliorated by pointing out different approaches with the device (regarding mindset etc). Where that might have been the case for Kermis at one point, that time had long since passed. All posts that contained attempts at reaching him on this level merely frustrated the situation.

The reason for this, as I see it, is that this was really a consumer complaint issue from the start. This man had paid good money for the product, put in what he felt was more than adequate time with it, suffered frustration for it and was for all intent and purposes done with trying to learn anything more about it. His first post showed the finality of his decision, he told us that he had discarded the Aneros and even attempted to fend off any help oriented responses by predicting them beforehand.

As a "consumer issue" certain things need to be stated upfront. First, the marketplace of sexual paraphernalia is somewhat unique. While most manufacturers (outside this arena) use hyperbole to sell their products, with erotic goods, it is the hyperbole itself that is most often sold! Generally, all of the products are the same, it is the packaging and the hype that one is buying. I think that most of you know what I'm talking about, thousands of companies selling the same dildos made decades ago with an evolution of porn starlets on the packaging to draw people in. To be sure, this is not a world of explicit or implicit guarantees and warranties, so I think that any buyer needs to know what he or she is getting into before they invest their time and money in these items. While I would make the distinction that the Aneros is unique in this regard, in that it is new and different and that it does work, it does not stop some people from promoting it the same way they do with the other products in their inventory.

This question remains however, was the Aneros Forum really the proper place for Kermis to air his grievance? My answer is no and yes, lol. As he bought the Aneros elsewhere and was "misled" by the claims made by a reseller, the ideal place to have broached this would have been the site of the transaction. As others have said, such claims are not made here and we have a forum that contains accounts of users having difficulty with the product on a weekly basis. Although these accounts don't predominate, a cursory review of our forum will give any interested party an idea of the relative satisfaction of a good cross section of users out there. The Poll page in particular contains information that is very specific about the learning curve with the Aneros.

All of that said, what became clear in one of Kermis' last posts is that he felt like he had no other place to turn to. While I disagree that the Aneros company should be held accountable for everything that goes on at reseller sites, they might have been interested in hearing about it. My sense is that he would have done better to have taken this up with them directly, rather than vent his frustration to a group of users who have no power to impact his concerns anyway.

As Pan said, we should be big enough as a community to accept this type of criticism. However, by way of a defense of some of those users who responded so vociferously to this thread, this forum has become an oasis from what we like to think of as an unenlightened world. It can be difficult to come here and read disparaging comments about this product and not feel personally challenged by them. But I would say to all, that if we are truly interested in persuading a doubting world into accepting our point of view, we have to be as concerned with our level of communication as with the message itself.

I am indeed hoping that this matter can be put to rest. It is time for us all to move on.

Kermis, may you find your way as pleasant.

BF Mayfield

Hello Kermis
Nobody likes to buy a product that doesn't live up to the claims made of it. In fact in Australia it's an offence to make false claims of a product.

It seems to me though, that your issue is with the company you bought the product from, not HIH or Aneros. If you had bought the device through the Aneros site you would (more than likely) have had a money back guarantee.

Consider this...
The fact that Aneros offer a guarantee at all indicates that they have total faith in their products. Secondly, the hundreds of posts on the forum proclaiming the amazing experiences available add great weight to its credentials. After all, you'd have to agree I'm sure, it's unlikely every contributor to this forum is deluded.

When I purchased my MGX I did so with great scepticism; it's just the way I am unfortunately/fortunately. My 'journey' has been with mixed success, although I rate every session as enjoyable. Plus, in the short time I have had my MGX, while not reaching mind blowing Super-O's yet, I have had from time to time wonderful pleasure from the device. Basically, when it comes to Aneros, I'm a sceptic no more. I'm really looking forward to my future journey.

I suggest you do as others here have suggested and put it away for a while and calm down. I honestly believe that if you can free yourself from your negative attitude towards Aneros, you will one day learn to enjoy its many and diverse pleasures.

Cheers mate
MrBater 🙂

Hey Kermis,

As another positive for you, I think that you could accept from the number of 'good/positive' posts towards you in this discussion, that others in this group care about/feel for your situation! 🙂

I would just like to add that the site you purchased the device from is not the original Aneros company. What other suppliers say about a product is not the fault of the producer.