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03/18/2021 4:43 am
I got carried away answering a question on the Aneros reddit (asked on a throwaway account by a fairly new user), so I thought I'd post my answer here as well, lest it vanishes. I'm also really interested in all your own theories. Trying to stay open to fresh perspectives 😉
The question was:
What would you say the difference is between a P-gasm, P-wave and a super-O?
v My answer v
These three terms, let's be honest, are intentionally vague in order to not be exclusionary of someone's experiences. They're more like categories. Especially "P-wave" and "Super-O". Each person will develop their own definition of them as a metric of their progress and way to communicate (We're humans, we love to label things.)
Defining one of these terms by it's relation to another is less useful to someone who has not experienced any of them. So I'll stick with individual definitions.
P-wave (pleasure-wave) At it's most basic it is simply sexual sensual pleasure, which we are all encouraging to continue and blossom within ourselves. As we're talking Aneros here, it's generally originating in and around your prostate. However, if you feel distinct pleasure in your abs or elsewhere, just go with it.
P-wave is still a useful term as it helps you picture something that grows and spreads, ebbs and flows. A sensation that could be continual rolling like the sea. I've read and heard many different descriptions over the years. Warm, buzzing, pulsing, jolting, tingling, trickling, all are valid. In time you will come up with your own interpretation. Looking at the milestones in the Aneros wiki gives a rough idea of at what stage in someone's journey these tend to happen.
P-gasm (prostate-orgasm) is easier to narrow down. It's a... prostate based orgasm, as you might imagine. By most accounts, it feels very different to a traditional penile orgasm and expecting it to feel the same is a mistake that, by their own admission, has held a lot of people back. Orgasms in general involve loss of control in the related muscles and your brain 'flooding' with feel-good hormones and neurochemicals. In that aspect, it shares elements with a traditional orgasm.
Super-O (Super-orgasm) is the hardest of all to accurately describe to someone in a way they can personally use to predict their own version. Experience, strength, etc is very varied between users. Many people use Aneros seeking an orgasm which is 'better' that a traditional one. So will only say they have had a Super-O when they have a truly memorable experience. It won't be exactly what they were expecting when they started their journey, nor will their first Super-O be the pinnacle of said journey, but it will be powerful enough for them to feel they 'have made it' for want of a better term.
It does not have to be prostate based. Most people end up having other parts of their bodies incorporated along with wherever the orgasm began. Many techniques to have a Super-O don't use the prostate at all.
It is a more powerful version of smaller, mostly non-penis-based, orgasm/s.
This next part is my own theories, so take it with a hefty pinch of salt:
I think the reason people categorize this experience separately is that at a certain point the regular conscious and subconscious elements of an orgasm completely overwhelm you.
Consciously, we are willingly giving ourselves over to these sensations, submitting to them, until at a certain point the 'submission' is no longer voluntary, a self-perpetuating cycle of pleasure which we have limited control over.
Subconsciously, many things change when we approach orgasm. The logical part of our brain is less active while the 'millions of signals' determining, touch, heat, pressure which our brain normally filters out are more noticeable and active. It can feel like a switch is flipped, especially if the experience is new. The sheer intensity for some can cause anxiety. Though, as you may have noticed, during orgasm there is a moment where fear drops away. At the same time, things like Oxytocin are released, which is linked to how we interpret love and bonding. So it is possible to feel like your stress is suddenly replaced with love.
Sooo.... by all means, read accounts of other Super Orgasms. It's motivating to do so :). Just be aware that your experiences will be unique.
Good advice? Bad advice? Too much advice? What do you think?
03/18/2021 6:32 am
I think these are good definitions for those different sensations we encounter in our sessions.
I find the idea of Super-O having different levels of quality or intensity particularly relevant.
The first time I had an intense orgasm that also extended a bit to my abs in addition to my prostate area, I thought "hey! Is this a super-O? "It felt so good!
After the session, I had a doubt, but for me it was definitely a Super-O. And then, a few sessions later, I had another Super-O, a little better, even more intense and invading my body a little more. Ah, I thought, so the first one wasn't really a Super-O since this one is even better! Then I noticed that better and better Super-O's were coming every x sessions.
Today, I have come to terms with the fact that there is no real peak in this scale of pleasure and that I will continue to have regular Super-O's that I call "the best orgasms of my life".
Like everyone else, I placed a lot of importance on labels and definitions at the beginning of my journey. But today I am less likely to want to label and analyze the quality of pleasure I get from my different massagers.
03/18/2021 6:39 am
Nice clear and inclusive way of breaking it down.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: my view of all of this is that there is no super orgasm, just orgasms of varying strength and duration in various parts of the body and mind. I even think that “pwaves” are on this spectrum. I am not saying that this should be everyone’s view, I just don’t understand where the threshold of “mini” and “super” are passed for myself, and don’t care. Of course, as I have been convinced by others, it can be useful for those rewiring to have these psychological stepping stones, and so I understand why they exist. Thus the above text is a good description of where one can place boundaries on the spectrum of pleasure.
03/18/2021 6:52 am
@kazama, very good attempt at describing the characteristics of the 3 categories. I think that any experienced individual in the subject will be able to appreciate the explanations but the less experienced or clueless might have more questions or miss the boat entirely. Unfortunately, we're dealing with sensations and pleasures terms that are totally unknown to the majority of the human male species.
My hat's off to you for trying; the more we spread the word, the better.
03/18/2021 10:32 am
@Kazama, I pretty much concur with your descriptions. I discussed some other aspects of 'orgasm' in the thread What's an Orgasm? and I think the Aneros WIKI definition for a Super-O is sufficiently adequate to cover the wide ranging experience it is. My only pedantic quibble was this statement ->
P-wave (pleasure-wave) At it's most basic it is simply sexual pleasure, which we are all encouraging to continue and blossom within ourselves.
I would rather categorize a P-wave more generally as sensual pleasure. In my own experience, it may or may not be attached to sexual thoughts, feelings or activity.
Good Vibes to You!
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03/18/2021 10:57 am
Morexp, Divine oblivion & Ggringo thank you for the feedback.
Today, I have come to terms with the fact that there is no real peak in this scale of pleasure and that I will continue to have regular Super-O's that I call "the best orgasms of my life".
That is the realisation I have come to as well. A promising one thankfully. (Though I'm still probably not as proficient as many other regulars here.)
When starting out on your journey a fixed destination seems so important, yet now the idea that there are always going to be unexplored avenues of pleasure it ever exciting.
@divine_o I largely agree with you that it's a wide spectrum of magnitude with plenty of other varieties spicing it up on the side. Certainly far more than the picture that regular terms "Mini-O" and "Super-O" paint. (I must make a note not to use those on reddit anymore.)
In fact I think it was reading some of your posts that got me thinking "So why is there this JUMP in pleasure for some people?" A notable jump from 'simply' amazing to mind-blowing/uncontrollable/out of body types. 'Like a switch is flipped'.
but the less experienced or clueless might have more questions or miss the boat entirely.
This is sort of what I was afraid of.
To put the reply in context, there were a handful of people already describing what their own 'best orgasm' had felt like. The kind of info that is really simple and perfect for motivating someone relatively new.
I still preach set 1&2 of your Kegel workout to anyone who is interested btw!
Something about aiming for percentages of contraction creates a healthy focus on pleasure in the area. It's not too complex for a passing conversation either 😉
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03/18/2021 11:00 am
@rumel Thank you too 🙂
Much of my understandings are based on your musings so I hope it's no coincidence that our opinions are at least similar.
I will update my response with that suggested change!
(In hindsight it would have been a really good idea to re-read the Aneros wiki entry before I typed that all out XD. Oh well, such is life.)
09/09/2021 2:22 pm
@rumel while I have had somewhat slow progress with the aneros, I can generate pretty decent P-waves with one good A-less kegel. While I have not pushed for any A-less O's yet, one good squeeze can make my shoulders quiver, lol.
It's like I've made more progress Aless than in my actual sessions.
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