Surgical procedures to achieve Super Orgasms

That's shocking! Let's say this is 100% safe and does not harm the prostate, which I'm pretty sure cannot be done: 

In my opinion, this would not work any better than using an Aneros, because most of the orgasm is about how you interpret and work with the feelings you are getting. Of course, maybe you could force more powerful feelings with such an apparatus, but then it would likely cause a prostate orgasm with ejaculation. 

In a way, this is very similar to another question I had, what if we could build a "robot finger" which we can program with the same moves the Aneros makes when a man is having a Super-O, would this work? No, because the Aneros does nothing by itself, it's piloted by the muscles, it's the result rather than the cause. The whole thing is constant back and forth, call and response, action and reaction.

If you do not respond well, perfectly in synch to the robot finger, or the programmed pulsing form your cybernetic implant, then no Super-O will happen. At least, that's where I stand on the subject right now. 

Hawt damn!! A surgically implanted device is a big difference from a clit vibe you stick in your wife’s knickers.

Big chance to take if your surgeon messes up and you’re left with reduced sexual function.

Then if someone has it done and it still don’t work ha! Everyone can easily stimulate their gland,but if the mind isn’t isn’t in sync,the implant won’t do Jack shit imo.

I agree with those two preceding me.  I suppose that genital e-stim, a real thing, has something in common with this fictitious prostate e-stim.  That is, if you’ll agree that prostate orgasm and even manual penile orgasm are learned responses.  I guess it comes down to “all roads lead to Rome”- many methods work for prostate orgasms- once you’re trained-up.  There’s no, uhm, magic wand.  But I’ll pass on the surgery.

And yet it is magic, tingling inside me, in my office chair, and I can grow it, but I will choose not to.  No external (or internal) agent or factors involved, except reading and posting today.  And @hankey01 has gotten as close to luck and magic as it comes with his third time’s a charm.  Thanks for the thought-provoking topic, @charlessmith .

    I can see some guy in Nigeria, holding your prostate hostage, cause he hacked your phone. lol

Posted by: @charlessmith

I'm surprised that as far as I know nobody offers any surgical procedures which would enable men to enjoy guaranteed super o's anytime or place at the press of a button. 

@helghast wrote: "Everyone can easily stimulate their gland,but if the mind isn’t isn’t in sync,the implant won’t do Jack shit imo."

Perhaps the surgery would have to be on the brain (like installing an on-off switch activated by inserting a finger in a light socket)... LOL Im just being silly here

All jokes aside, if you remove the quasi-cyberpunk or transhumanist angle, this is not so different than an older thread of mine:  Let’s say there’s a Super-O pill… – General Discussion – Aneros Forum

The question stays the same, what if you could have Super-Os on demand, what would you do with this power? 

@zentai You think Fentynal is a problem. There'd be whole new asylums, to house all the people having SO's.

@tbob 

Yea i gotta agree here. Plus,it was no doubt be engulfed with addictions issues,and mental health problems too. 

Posted by: @tbob

@zentai You think Fentynal is a problem. There'd be whole new asylums, to house all the people having SO's.

Posted by: @helghast

Yea i gotta agree here. Plus,it was no doubt be engulfed with addictions issues,and mental health problems too. 

That's what I think, too, chaos in the streets and everything. Now, why are our own homebrewed Super-Os not creating problems, while the "synthetic" ones would likely create issues ? 

@zentai 

Because we have limited data from the limited number of journey men we know. There have been sporadic negative reports on the forum like the guy a few weeks back getting ready to top himself. You’ve shared some woes too. There’s been 1 or 2 reports on MG too. And they’re the guys who report back. A few more will have had issues that we don’t know about. Plus,most ppl don’t have super o 10 times a day. Some get one,and spend ages trying to get a second. Others have the mental discipline to control it. Others just won’t be affected no matter how many they have.

Now imagine like 3 billion men have an implant for instant super o. I believe there would an epidemic larger than covid. I actually believe it would complete damage and alter society.

How many ppl would throw sick days,how could they be productive in their job when such instant gratification would be a simple button press? How it would affect reproduction and relationships. In fact,I think it has the potential to threaten us with extinction.

@helghast 

Let's say I'm a mischievous billionaire philanthropist and I get myself 3 billion Aneros and start distributing one to every adult man on the planet. Is that safe or not? 

@zentai 

No problem - some guys would use them to poke holes in the soil for planting in the spring and store it on a shelf the rest of the year! 

😉

@zentai 

I think the reason why the masses aren’t on it is that it’s probably too much power to wield species wide. If the o’s are guaranteed,we’re fucked.

Posted by: @helghast

@zentai 

I think the reason why the masses aren’t on it is that it’s probably too much power to wield species wide. If the o’s are guaranteed,we’re fucked.

I agree that automatic Os for everyone would potentially destroy civilization as it would be very similar to having everyone hooked on drugs and no one sober enough to get anything done. Anyone creating an automatic Super-O device would be some kind of supervillain. 

I don't feel like "naturally occurring" S-Os are quite the same kind of menace for humanity. Otherwise, we would need to be a shadowy organization that is trying to keep Super-Os away from people (or is it the opposite?) for their own good, and that would be quite wacky. 

Posted by: @zentai

Otherwise, we would need to be a shadowy organization that is trying to keep Super-Os away from people (or is it the opposite?) for their own good, and that would be quite wacky. 

Don't we already have such an organization, dampening opportunities for men for learning about prostate orgasm?  Generally, I'll posit, it's society.  Social norms, and unfortunately, societal prejudices and learned personal biases are such that it's not as easy as it should be to share and stumble across good info. in real life, or explore.  Hope that's changing for those reaching adulthood nowadays.

@helical 

This could be quite the discussion.  While Super-Os are not limited to being prostate Os, it really does feel like prostate stimulation with a dedicated prostate massager is THE easiest way to get there in the first place. Trying for a completely Aless path is likely much more challenging, when it can be done. So, for most folks, S-Os will be anal Os. 

In pornography, at least, there is a lot more hetero backdoor content than there ever was, that is not portrayed as female domination or BDSM, and is instead being depicted as something "average couples" would do.      

But I don't really feel this translate to society at large. I'm pretty sure that if I decided to give presentations or classes locally, this would bar me from other forms of employment. I don't think this is strictly from this being an anal thing, and more closely related to being a "masturbation instructor". It's 2022, everyone jerks off, everyone looks at porn, but discussing how we jerk off? Now that's out of bounds. 

I don't know how strongly society is "pushing back" against Super-O and how much of it is only a vague anti-masturbation sentiment. No Nut November, NoFap, these are young guy's ideas. Anal masturbation has the added baggage of "being dirty" or "being gay" and that does not help even if everyone is supposedly super open to diversity and difference. I do not think that the approach that says : "Sadly, the best way to reach S-Os is by anal stimulation but it's only a minor inconvenience" is the right one, either. 

Posted by: @zentai

It's 2022, everyone jerks off, everyone looks at porn, but discussing how we jerk off? Now that's out of bounds. 

We seem to be speaking quite freely here, and a ton of other websites. I see alot of people pushing the boundaries everywhere,if anything. If I remember correctly, a week or or so ago about, buying for teenagers. I think on the whole were all taught to keep our sexual practices secret, and not just for religous reasons. Wev'e been taught that sex is special, private, and has boundaries that should be respected. And levels of tollerance differs from one indidvual to another. I think I could make the argument for either side. All the way down the line. The really good side to all this, is I being someone with no problem with prostate play can come here and speak freely. Because I would never feel comfortable talking to a group face to face, I just couldn't, I'm far to shy.  

@tbob 

Yes, good arguments can be made for both sides. I don't want sex and masturbation and Super-Os to be forced on people or to be everywhere. But I think it should be at least well known to everyone that men can experience multiple orgasms just like women can, then if they want, they can further their knowledge and see how it can be done. This does not mean we should all be having Super-O parties. I completely agree that sex should be as private and special as someone wants to make it. 

Meh I think y’all are making it sound scarier than it is.  Be it a pill or an implant, people remain human. Some would take it, some wouldn’t, but society wouldn’t screech to a halt. 

Women already have access to insane orgasms with vibrators. Men already have unlimited access to porn and can jerk off all they want.  Gay men can have casual hook ups extremely easily in many major cities by going to saunas or going on grindr. Yet the world somehow keeps plowing ahead (to its doom). Orgasmic pleasure is great, but many other aspects of life are great as well. Some people would get addicted, just as some people get addicted to drugs, porn or sex. The rest of us folk would simply have an enhanced sexual experience.

In any case I don’t think an electronic implant would do anything because as zentai says it’s how you interpret the feelings.

Posted by: @divine_o

Some would take it, some wouldn’t, but society wouldn’t screech to a halt. 

Who said anyone gets a choice? Mwahahahaha! 

Posted by: @divine_o

Women already have access to insane orgasms with vibrators. Men already have unlimited access to porn and can jerk off all they want.  Gay men can have casual hook ups extremely easily in many major cities by going to saunas or going on grindr.

I think it's about effort, reward, drive and dosage. I experienced free "at the push of a button" Super-Os, and while there was no strong addiction mechanism, I'm forced to admit that there was nothing else I wanted to do, therefore that was pretty much all I did. Could I still go out for groceries, clean the house, pay my bills? Of course, but the Os displaced most non-essential activities, because absolutely nothing was as much fun.  I'd say this would be a more likely outcome than the "chaos in the streets and death of humanity" scenario. More like everyone being on their Os all the time instead of being on their phones, 100% pure dopamine chasing. Things would still get done, sort off. 

I also hope I'll never get to see if I'm right or not. I'd be worried that for example, a combination of VR, hypnosis and Haptic technology and a bit of E-Stim could lead us there much faster than surgical implants, this is something that is already in the works, but price is the main issue. Add some designer drugs to the mix, brewed to enhance immersion, and you have a cyberpunk dystopia! 

I'd rather stick to not 100% sure prostate Super-Os.

Edit : All of this is keeping with the original theme and might not reflect any actual risk to humanity from Super-Os. Viewer discretion is advised. Still, I don't feel this is a silly discussion, either. 

Posted by: @divine_o

In any case I don’t think an electronic implant would do anything because as zentai says it’s how you interpret the feelings.

Yea, I went through all the body shaking legs doing weird things , I think my 3rd session, but it wasn't connected to my pleasure center. Oh how I wish my body would take me back now that it knows where the pleasure lies.

Posted by: @zentai

I experienced free "at the push of a button" Super-Os, and while there was no strong addiction mechanism, I'm forced to admit that there was nothing else I wanted to do, therefore that was pretty much all I did. Could I still go out for groceries, clean the house, pay my bills? Of course, but the Os displaced most non-essential activities, because absolutely nothing was as much fun.

That is your experience. Not everyone would have the same experience as you had. I sure didn’t, nor did plenty of others here upon discovering practically instantaneous orgasms in abondance (im not knocking your choices, btw, i think everyone should do what they want!). I have trouble seeing a majority or even a significant minority of people going the route of abandoning all but the essential aspects of life in order to chase orgasmic pleasure.  I agree that this is an extremely pleasureful part of my life, and I am in part defined by it. But there is also love, friendship, family, hobbies, careers, etc that make us feel good in all sorts of ways. If you made me choose between love and prostate pleasure, or friendship and prostate pleasure, then I would take the former in both cases. 

Posted by: @helghast

@zentai 

Because we have limited data from the limited number of journey men we know. There have been sporadic negative reports on the forum like the guy a few weeks back getting ready to top himself. You’ve shared some woes too. There’s been 1 or 2 reports on MG too. And they’re the guys who report back. A few more will have had issues that we don’t know about. Plus,most ppl don’t have super o 10 times a day. Some get one,and spend ages trying to get a second. Others have the mental discipline to control it. Others just won’t be affected no matter how many they have.

Now imagine like 3 billion men have an implant for instant super o. I believe there would an epidemic larger than covid. I actually believe it would complete damage and alter society.

How many ppl would throw sick days,how could they be productive in their job when such instant gratification would be a simple button press? How it would affect reproduction and relationships. In fact,I think it has the potential to threaten us with extinction.

Well put! As it stands, most of us have had to pay a considerable price of admission in terms of time to get consistent results. For me a Super-O is not to the point yet of being a sure thing. I believe this elusive nature tends to weed out those with an addictive personality, looking for a quick fix. It's almost like an artistic craft coaxing the pleasure. If it were too easy it would loose its special character and become polluted with pleasure junkies.

Posted by: @divine_o

That is your experience. Not everyone would have the same experience as you had. I sure didn’t, nor did plenty of others here upon discovering practically instantaneous orgasms in abondance (im not knocking your choices, btw, i think everyone should do what they want!). I have trouble seeing a majority or even a significant minority of people going the route of abandoning all but the essential aspects of life in order to chase orgasmic pleasure.  I agree that this is an extremely pleasureful part of my life, and I am in part defined by it. But there is also love, friendship, family, hobbies, careers, etc that make us feel good in all sorts of ways. If you made me choose between love and prostate pleasure, or friendship and prostate pleasure, then I would take the former in both cases. 

You're right, everyone's experience is unique, and some guys are more proficient with the Os than I am and they're doing fine. There is also an element of timing, as my negative experiences mostly happened while it was actually illegal to go out and see friends and family and most activities were closed. Even then, I would say that it felt more like finding a new hobby that draws you in completely. Introverted people tend to do this, not all, but some do. 

Actually, we know some guys get Super-Os during all or almost all sessions, and they did not quit everything else to go live in a cave, neither are they obsessed by their sessions. I think that's because the sessions follow a natural pattern where your body won't give you orgasms all the time to the point where it becomes a problem. This is in fact, self-regulated, maybe in a hormonal way, arousal, energy, how much you can repeat the same experiences before getting bored, and how much free time is available. Also, how much you can do it before you start thinking it might be excessive, if you are withdrawing from other activities or people, etc. 

I also assumed that in our scenario, activating the implant gave powerful, intense Os, and you can just activate it over and over.  After all, we did not decide on any parameters, and we don't know if it's a subscription service where each O costs a dollar, or anything else. If you can force Os well after your body is "done" with the session, then you could be getting into hormonal issues, possibly serotonin issues like with MDMA, and actually changing how your body works and perceives pleasure, even how it produces motivation. This would be like living in a Skinner box. 

In a scenario where I'm forced to choose between Super-Os and something else, I can see several where the Os could go. Man, I could see myself giving them away so the cat can live 5 more healthy years. But in real life, it's all about equilibrium...  

I think some guys are missing the crux of the post,we aren’t talking about in interpreting feeling or experiences etc. the implant GUARANTEES super o at the touch of a button. I’ll stick by what I said,if this was the case,we’re screwed. Enough ppl would be fucked up by it to cause serious problems within society and probably reproduction. How many guys would just skip women to play with their gland. There’s already been cases on the forum.

@helghast 

To be fair, at the very start we were wondering if an implant would work, before it turned into the Super-O pushbutton thing. If it's guaranteed, and there is a mechanism that stops you from hurting yourself, whatever that means, then I guess we would still see a lot of people looking like they like to party very hard.

Without any failsafe, where it works 100% of the time and hits hard over and over and over and you cannot stop it, then I guess it could even be used as a torture device... In that case, yeah, it would be like a hard drug epidemic. 

In a society where you are programmed to want but not told how to want, and nobody teaches contentment, the button pushing zombies would be everywhere. By the way, I think the end goal of Super-Os is contentment, but it might not be what we expect or even what we desire. The push-button Os would not lead to a path of understanding and there would be no personal growth in them, in my opinion. They would be unnatural and a great prompt for a horror novel. 

@zentai 

Well,I mean,if it has to charge up between sessions,then maybe. Still a lot of grey areas though. I’m not sure the super o is designed to be attained so easily. 

Posted by: @helghast

Well,I mean,if it has to charge up between sessions,then maybe. Still a lot of grey areas though. I’m not sure the super o is designed to be attained so easily. 

I'm sure people would find a way around this, if it was limited to 30 minutes a day someone would hack the system in less than a week. I think the Super-O is designed to be in synch with your body, and as long as you keep to naturally occurring ones, things are going to be fine.

But when men decide they're going to chase something until it works, no matter what, history shows we often get a huge mess.