Sessions without porn, advice needed

Porn in general is cancer for the brain and shouldn't really be watched. This is coming from someone who watched vr porn and had to cut it out (this on weed is literally free basing dopamine and scary how real it is).

So cut the porn out cold Turkey and learn to feel the little sensations of the aneros. Learn to appreciate the small tingles and sensations. I prefer sessions listening to some sort of meditation music and just use the sessions as a quiet time away from the world.

Not uncommon to have an amazing session where you are just floating thru space in pure bliss for 90 minutes.

Posted by: @astronaut

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I don't have anything against porn but personally it makes me feel guilty and disconnected from the reality after. I know that arousal is the mental aspect. How do you fuel it during your sessions without porn?

You are correct in that arousal is very important to achieving prostate based orgasms using your Aneros device, please see Are you "aroused"?. How you achieve that without resorting to the damaging effects of pornography is another matter, please see the threads Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence/Semen Retention, 21 day challenge post & @divine_o 's thread Arousal building methods.for further information. You can do it without the porn but it may be a challenge to alter your thought paradigms to do so. 

Good Vibes to You!

Posted by: @astronaut

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How do you fuel it during your sessions without porn?

I grew up without porn, so imagination was always my default. But even that can be a distraction sometimes.
The most pure form of arousal I found was to take my session as a sexual experience in itself. It's a weird mental leap to make at first. It seems silly and almost sarcastic to rub your own body and think "Oh yeah baby, this is hot". But so much of porn and fantasy is about framing what you're doing in some other terms. Why isn't it arousing to simply be a sexual being, doing a sexual act on our own? I guess we get too bored of ourselves.

If you feel like you've burnt out on porn, but can't have aneros sessions without it, then take a break from the aneros too. There's nothing wrong with just taking a break from the whole thing. I'm just back from doing No Nut November, and it's amazing how little I actually need to masturbate, compared to how often I just want to feel good. You're not alone, there are plenty of people trying to reboot and shed their dependence on porn.

I am still very much a newbie on this journey and appreciate all the learning I’ve gained in this community.  This is a topic that is still very much on my mind - arousal and the use of porn… I’m roughly 8-9 months in and until November porn was a frequent part of my sessions, although not always and not always for the full session.  I participated in NNN and in addition to the NN part I also abstained from porn.  Still am.  And I had by far my biggest breakthroughs and success over November and now early December.  It’s a fair question if abstention from ejaculation and/or porn were key factors of if it’s just coincidental - but it did very much challenge my assumptions about arousal and what that meant in the context of the prostate journey.  

TO’s for me were always triggered by either porn, or my own visual fantasies sometimes as an extension of porn I’d watched.  So naturally that’s what I turned to during this journey - at least to get things kicked off.  Taking that off the table has been interesting for me as while I have used some mental fantasy during sessions, I’ve also had my best experiences not really visualizing anything sexual and obviously without porn.  It does seem like having experienced some Super O’s that the anticipation of that potentially happening again, along with the rituals I’ve employed (particular lighting, getting my bed comfortable and “ready”, getting toys ready, setting the temperature, noise canceling earbuds and music, and stripping) create a sense of anticipation that is arousing, or starts arousal by itself.  And a somewhat clear mind, has helped me.  But even before Super O’s pretty much any breakthrough, heightened sensations and feelings, serve as a springboard to want to try again and see where it leads.  This could all of course not mean a thing next session.  

I absolutely think porn is not necessary as that’s been my experience.  I do wonder if, however, transitioning from the TO mindset to prostate mindset is facilitated by starting with what you know and steadily moving away from the methods that led to success in the TO domain.  If you’ve only been aroused by porn you’ve gotta start somewhere but maybe start off but then turn it off, use it less and less only as a starter, and then give it up entirely.  Having said that the “cold turkey” approach worked well for me but I had at least experienced some p waves etc… prior to that and had a fair number of sessions, albeit many of them seemingly not going anywhere.  

In my opinion, porn is not a bad thing if you watch it in limits and you do it occasionally. But also just avoid watching porn while you are in Aneros session as it will be too much distraction. Your time with Aneros is a personal and meditative  time so there is no need for porn at that time. Just my 2 cents opinion. 

There are different models of these devices because each or us has our own unique peculiarities physically, but not to be overlooked, mentally & spiritually as well.

While it may be helpful to share our experiences, it may be dangerous to expect the exact same results as another.

If porn is not working for you, like everything else in life, probably best to limit it.

If it is working, enjoy the ride.

Remember that we are dynamic creatures and that what we choose today determines our destiny.

We all have the agency to change our own direction.

Thanks for the suggestion folks. For me personally porn is self destructive behavior. But I have very good success without it so far, but I don't want session to go for a very long time. It is only last a 20 min max. I will post here to document how it goes

@astronaut I applaud your decision to put porn behind you, I see it as only beneficial for you to make that decision!  Others have mentioned NNN and if you're up for it you don't necessarily need to wait til next November or even the beginning of New Year's for a resolution here.  The Mindgasm 30 Day Challenge is still up right now and they have a lot of encouragement on quitting porn plus some constructive exercises for you if you'd like to give it a shot!  It is also a great way to build up your muscles doing kegels and working more on your Aless.  Whatever you decide I wish you well.

@faith-manages porn is very destructive for me, it is unhealthy coping mechanism that triggers shame which leads to very bad thought patterns and disassociation. I can really say that I'm in a recovery phase and can expect relapses in a future so it will be never ending battle for me.

I'm very glad that I started my Aneros journey, it helped me to come to the conclusion that I'm trapped and drain myself away from fulfilling moments, happiness and peace that life can give. If you will read my old posts my awakening was really difficult and put tall on my mental health. Pleasure I received opened up my eyes to so many issues I have in my life. To be honest I only feel safe to quit porn because I have therapist that really helps to sort out and understand things.

Mindgasm is a very powerful tool, I have been using it for 6 month now, and I don't really need toy to experience same sensations that I have with Aneros.

The only reason I think I started to have hands-free prostate Os was because I quit watching porn while stimulating my anus and prostate. Major distraction. If you use porn to pleasure your penis, you're connecting your penis to porn very strongly. If you watch porn to pleasure your prostate...how is that supposed to work when you're supposed to NOT touch your penis?!?! I still used porn to pleasure my cock, but I was having hands-free Os within seconds after inserting any Aneros on the shelf so long as porn was off. 

I quit porn March 2021. Cold turkey just quit it. Poisoned my brain and body. Gave me crippling ED and I couldn't have sex with my wife, get hard without it on, cum without it on, nothing worked. Only porn. Six weeks after quitting every drop of it I was harder than I had been since my 20s, maybe harder; I "felt" my penis so much more; my sexual response alone and with my wife was 200% higher than I could remember; I was a steel pipe for my wife in seconds, every time I was with her; and, self pleasuring was exploratory, adventurous, fun, exciting, thrilling, and so gratifying and guilt/shame free. OP it sounds like you are quitting porn and its helping. My self esteem went up, my health went up, I smiled more, I complained less, and I got way way WAY more into my body than ever before.

I make love to myself when I stimulate my prostate. Its me, the toy, the room I'm in, and I'm breathing. That's my mantra. My life at that moment, living IN the moment. Being present. Its all about being present and "here" not "there". 

If you find yourself slipping, do some mindfulness for 10 minutes prior to a session. Just sit, straight spine, upright, breath deeply, push your tongue gently into the roof of your mouth, and listen to the sound your natural breathing makes. Really dig into your breath but don't force it too much. Tongue to roof of mouth stops your tongue from making micro movements it makes when you are talking to yourself. And it connects your root with your pituitary gland and 3rd eye. A circuit if you will 😉  Then, lie down and insert your toy. Continue the mindfulness as you begin your session. Its just  you, the toy, and breathing. Orgasms will flow.

@techpump 

This is such a good post. Noticed the same. Cutting our porn and masturbation after 2-3 weeks by penis felt full heavy and thick. Just totally different feeling and look. Also small things started to turn you on again and sex felt 10x better.

It is hard to get thru and easy to relapse. But the benefits are huge. 

Posted by: @jiji2000

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@techpump 

 

This is such a good post. Noticed the same. Cutting our porn and masturbation after 2-3 weeks by penis felt full heavy and thick. Just totally different feeling and look. Also small things started to turn you on again and sex felt 10x better.

It is hard to get thru and easy to relapse. But the benefits are huge. 

It was hard to get through for sure. It still is kinda hard, too. Every now and then, maybe every 3 months, I peruse a website I used to be on every day for updates, to see what porno pictures look like, what is considered hot currently, etc.. I'm not impressed at all anymore. Tastes and interests have changed a lot in 2+ years and I'm glad I'm not online looking at content for needs anymore.

My cock is heavier, fuller, more alive now. Glans is red/pinkish red and warm all the time. It swells up and gets fully erect now, big and glassy. Everything turns me on now. My wife, man, everything she does, wears, any skin she shows me on purpose or accident, I swell up. I thought I was horny before! Now? damn

Can do sessions with or without porn. Do not watch videos while doing a session but have my favorite downloaded pictures - mainly mature ladies of many different venues. If watching porn is a problem for you, then it’s better to abstain. For me, I enjoy watching a select group of pictures while maintaining my focus on my aroused prostate and enjoying subsequent Os and SOs! Do what works best for you!