Hi all. I'm pretty much a lurker here, but have read many posts. This is going to be a long post, so here we go...
I'm about 1.5 years in on this thing. I have a generic massager that I think is close to the SGX, the Helix Syn and a Progasm. And a variety of butt plugs that I bought for my girlfriend before we split and now I use them lol.
Basically I'm at a point of tiredness and frustration. I want to give up.
I've had in estimate, maybe around 40-60 session total.
I'm a straight guy and one of the obstacles has been to convince myself that it's ok to stick things in your butt and still be "straight". I have come a long way with that and feel pretty comfortable. I still admittedly have some small level of shame here though that I still need to work on. Telling my ex girlfriend about it as we were losing sexual momentum didn't help either. I hoped she would read the wiki links I sent her so she could understand what I'm trying to do and not just suddenly needing phallic objects in my ass. She never did make an effort and instead kind of gave me shit and teased me for it as if it's my weird gay or bi side that she's not a part of. (Meanwhile she wants my full effort with X, Y and Z done to her. Like I said now we are split.) But this was some time ago and now I'm happy with my own little private sessions and only have guilt issues or anxious thoughts maybe 10%-20% of the time. I know, still room to work on that.
I know it's maybe cliche but I want to vocalize, maybe so others don't feel alone, that I've had many times where I just feel like I've been duped. Laying there with a 40$ hunk of plastic in my ass, wishing something at all would happen for hours on end, days. And wondering, "Do these guys have the best scam ever running here? Probably a big profit on these things, and with a Man's desire for this "secret super intense hard to get pleasure" driving him like a drug addiction, have they just found a gold mine?!" With the relative scarcity of "mainstream" info on p-orgasms it then comes to personal accounts on forums like this, which also make me wonder "Is this shit even real"? But, then I read someone's account of a super-o, and another, and another and I gain faith again. Why would these people all lie? From a beginner's perspective though, and I'm sure many can relate, it's hard to keep the faith that there really is a pot of gold at the end.
So, that aside, I have felt some good feelings and had interesting sessions. Here's what I have felt and could perhaps be considered as progress in my 1.5 yrs:
- Using the Helix Syn and the do nothing method, felt a strange "falling" sensation in my pelvis. It was very brief and lasted only a second. I was not concentrating on anything at all. Not breath of energy or anything. It happened once again later, but not as much. It has not happened at all since.
- If I start with a fair amount of sexual energy sometime shortly after insertion, and with belly breathing and maybe/maybe not a small p contraction, I can get a raise of warm energy which feels like it's at the base of my perennium, but deeper. There's a moment where something happens, it's very minor, but noticeable enough that I have to open my mouth to breathe, which is a sure sign I think. However, despite trying "do nothing" as well as holding contraction, it goes away after maybe 15 seconds or so. After the first one it's usually harder to re-conjure. I've done these maybe, I don't know, 20 times?
- I find the Progasm tabs are too distracting. Or at least, the rear one limits movement too much. (Do people cut that off?) But there was this one time where it felt good to me to just contract hard and then push, in and out like that. My legs were shaking. So I guess you could call it an autofuck, but on the other hand I was controlling it. I also felt I could stop it at any time. I was doing it, just for the pleasure of the feeling. So I don't feel it was a super-o or even close. Rather I feel like it was just maybe some p-waves and a general good buzzing feeling. But maybe someone has input? I've not had a session like this since.
- One of my main concerns is I'm not making good contact with my prostate. I know, it's a cliche concern, but I have it too! I can get the "tingly, warm, have to urinate a little, feeling (which I'm pretty sure is it, right?) very briefly with the Helix Syn but it's not repeatable and only happens every 3 session or so. With the Progasm, I get a contact feeling at the halfway insertion point. So just the extra upward curved part of the end inserted. This makes me wonder, Is my prostate deeper up and closer in than other peoples? Or is that notion just a pointless common distraction?
- I've attempted a couple times to specifically target the prostate with a glass wand toy to try and accelerate waking it up. Actually I've had no real success there. In fact, I felt no contact sensations at all during these. This has given me the (cliche I know) thought of maybe my prostate is too small or in the wrong spot or just doesn't work like other peoples? I just can't wrap my head around why, if we are all basically identical physically, why then do some of us have these immediate big reactions and some of us struggle for years? These thoughts lead to frustration.
So at this point, I'm not getting great returns out of my sessions, and am a bit frustrated and tired of trying. It feels like a waste of time where I could be doing something else. Not all of them. Some are interesting and sexually hot. But most just don't go far.
I think I'm going to revert to "normal sex" for a while, but also do more meditation, which I think can really help, if you have a strong base there.
I'm also thinking of getting the Maximus. Maybe its larger size can produce some of the good feelings the Progasm does, but with more agility for movement like the helix. Thoughts?
Anyway, hi everyone and thanks for reading!
You're making me sad when reading your saga. You seem to have a great deal on your plate. My guess is its distracting you to the point that you aren't able to enjoy anything- not just Aneros.
First you are correct in the need to get past the whole "putting something in your butt" thing. You are correct in that it does NOT make you gay. Did you know that on the flip side not ALL gay men have anal sex either? I'm sure you know women who both do and don't have anal sex. It has nothing to do with anything with respect to sexual orientation. Its just how we get to the prostate for pleasure. And frankly, no one cares so you shouldn't.
Your girlfriend is now your ex as well. sounds like in the long run thats best for you. Not elaborating on that one.
I liken your situation to one i noted when at a show with a hypnotist. He started by saying it is impossible to hypnotize someone who doesn't want to be hypnotized, someone who is sitting there saying " i can't be hypnotized". It won't work- not that you're doing something similar, but as time goes on your expectation with each session is going to become one of anticipated failure, again, like the previous time. Not of one of success. You're mind set is negative before you start even if you don't realize it. From what you just wrote I can tell you it is. You get it? And justifiably so after a year and a half. Not that you need a cheerleader before you grab the lube but you need to plan it out differently. Suggest a little foreplay for yourself on a quiet early evening alone when you have several uninterupted hours to dedicate to the session. Not late at night when you're tired either. Then just let it happen. Focus on every little sensation no matter on how small. Reposition. Adjust. Use the handle on the helix and manually move it and hold it in one spot if necessary. Its there for a reason. Its not mandatory to be "hands free".
Another point. All men are not the same down there. Your prostate may be in a slightly higher location, or larger or smaller than others. Prostates can range in size from a large grape to a tennis ball. So when you get a sweet spot -keep it. From what you described sounds like you found it but mite need much longer to "get there". I have taken over an hour to start the prostatic contractions on occasion. Don't quit too soon.
Hope this helps. We're all on the same team. Keep the faith bro!
If you're trying to 'do nothing' as well as holding a contraction then you're far from doing nothing. You're holding a contraction.
Omgwtf- Thanks for the thoughtful feedback. I probably made things sound worse than they are. Im actually still enjoying sessions and having fun with it. I just havent posted much and wanted to vent that stuff. Your best advice for me I think is to change things up. Maybe a different time of day or different place. I do get some a-less buzzing feelings in my office chair. Also, Psychologically if I know im being hypnotized but want to be hypnotized would it still work? 😉
Jazzer- yes I know. I was talking about seperate efforts. Thanks.
The hypnotist was a guy named Kreskin who came to our college for a presentation long time ago and according to him -yes very much so. Your desire to be hypnotized is huge part of it. Almost a prerequisite. He's still all over you-tube by the way.