Questions regarding arousal

Hey! Welcome to the forum.

That is already excellent progress you are making. Not many guys can get aroused and get an erection just through non-genitalia stimulation. Even if you are having trouble applying that arousal to your aneros play, you should keep working on it before your in-toy sessions. You can also continue doing it during your in toy sessions: nipple play, full body caressing, fantasy, etc.  Every time you touch yourself, listen to your prostate and see if there is a **ping** of sensation generated down there. Find triggers on your body that are connected to your prostate. And continue learning different light contraction methods and breathing techniques. One day it will all come together, and in the meantime enjoy the sessions.

As for it being necessary to be aroused for prostate pleasure, the answer is complicated for me personally, but it definitely helps a lot.

Posted by: @appronnygmail-com

...when i start with the inital session. I start to loose my aroursal.

If you are associating 'arousal' with your erectile state then what you are experiencing is well within the bounds of typical reactions. Here on the Aneros Forum the term arousal has a broader concept, please see the thread Are you "aroused"? for more clarity on this term.

Posted by: @appronnygmail-com

Now i want to ask is it even that neccecary to be aroused. my sessions are more like meditation than mastubation. i dont get this much feeling out of prostate, its like a mild pleasure.

This is a bit tricky to answer as it depends upon what your intention is. If you are just looking to get the healthful, therapeutic value of prostate massage then you don't need to be aroused at all. However, if your intent is to reach orgasmic levels of pleasure then arousal is very important, please see the thread Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence/Semen Retention for more information. I have frequently referred to my Anerosessions as "erotic meditations", so, in that respect, I think you are on a good path to move forward.

Posted by: @appronnygmail-com

Do i just need more rewiring time? And also is it ok to touch my body during prostate sessions excluding the penis?

Yes, patience is necessary for your body and mind to get synchronized into developing this (prostate massage) approach to orgasms. It is a paradigm shift in thought away from penile based stimulation of orgasms, please read @cockadoodle ’s thread Penis, NOT and @rook 's thread Whole Body/Whole Mind - the mental side & @SteelColdiron 's thread Aneros: The Essential Mind State for a little insight. It might also help you to read @Neros 's post The truth behind how to "rewire".

Yes, touching any of numerous erogenous hot spots (excluding penis) on your body is a good way to enhance and sustain one's arousal levels. Please see @divine_o 's thread Arousal building methods for more information on this topic.

Good Vibes to You!

Posted by: @rumel

If you are associating 'arousal' with your erectile state then what you are experiencing is well within the bounds of typical reactions. Here on the Aneros Forum the term arousal has a broader concept, please see the thread Are you "aroused"? for more clarity on this term

To me arousal is in my head. My penis does not play a huge role here. For me beiing aroused is when i have sexual desire. Its mostly in my head. And like i said i kinda loose this desire when i focus on what i do. 

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I defenetly want to do prostate massage for the pleasure it can give. I want to experience sexuality as a whole and not just my penis.but maybe i really just need more time for rewiring. In order for my body to get completely aroused ,just by itself and not touching my dick. Also can i even touch my balls? Or is this too distracting? they could help with keeping arousal. While leaving my dick out.

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Posted by: @appronnygmail-com

Also can i even touch my balls? Or is this too distracting?

There are no absolute rules here! If touching, fondling, caressing your testicles and scrotal sac helps maintain your arousal then use it as another tool. Just remember to stay focused on the sensations being generated by your Aneros as you use the peripheral stimulation to enhance your arousal.

Good Vibes to You!

Thanks a lot this will help

If it was me experiencing this, I would guess that I was focusing too much on contractions, positions etc. I would do some routines/exercises with my breathing, contractions, positions without any expectations. Then I would totally forget about the aneros and my prostate, totally relax and fondle my nipples and/or balls.

I would say some of my least successful sessions have been when I have been focusing on contractions and movements of the aneros. My focus goes on finding the starting sensation of an orgasm and amplifying it. Not all orgasms start in the groin, so you could be ignoring an amazing sensation building elsewhere. If my hands get a ‘dead leg’ type of warm swollen buzzing, I know I’m in for a good time!

• @dismantled well your rigth. I really shouldn't think too much about what im doing. I should shift more towards what i feel. Luckly ive been defenetly feeling my prostate. And it feels good. But its still really mild. Probably because im not quite relaxed enough. My ass sometimes tenses up by itself. But im shure ill get the hang of that. I will try to look for different sensations in my whole body. Maybe there is really something i havent noticed.

Posted by: @appronnygmail-com

• . And it feels good. But its still really mild. Probably because im not quite relaxed enough.

In my experience, it just takes time. With normal wanking the stronger and faster you go, the better it feels. With prostate massage it's not like that. If you go too fast, too hard - prostate goes numb. Rhythm is very important. Feelings that are strange but nothing special at first morph into pleasure after a few minutes.

Also, rewiring means you get more sensitive between days. Next session, and the same movements give me more pleasure than before. You can't force this type of orgasm. Making a session longer only helps up to a point - I make them 60-90 minutes.

When in doubt, go slower. Prostate trembles in anticipation before the next stroke.

Posted by: @appronnygmail-com

Now my problem is, my arousal is strongly attached to my dick. And i should not touch it during prostate play. But i tried now to arouse myself in other ways. Which works for shure i tried to touch my nipples. And the rest of the body. And i get aroused. My dick is usually rock hard by the time i insert my aneros. But when i start with the inital session. I start to loose my aroursal.

It always will be attached to your dick. Can’t switch that off completely. Erections aren’t completely necessary for prostate play,but often,it causes hard erections and the pleasure can be greater with an erection.  Erections can come and go during a session,erection cycling is quite normal.With experience you will learn to keep the pleasure going in between.

Yes,you can explore your body,you can find pleasure and sensuality in places you never knew you could.

I am amazed at how often erections wax and wane during a session. I experience intense pleasure and "arousal" erect and flaccid with an aneros massager in me. One of the fun things I find happening is when the aneros gets triggered and starts moving back in and in and in for what seems like a mile, and an erection also starts to grow slowly. I suppose the device is only moving 1/4 of an inch, but it just keeps going, and it becomes difficult to tell which is which-- the toy moving firmly in the back or the growing erection in the front!

@helghast for me i have found once i stimulate my prostate my erection subsides almost always.and it usually does not come back. but that dosent matter anyway.

Prostate play teaches that ejaculation is not the same as orgasm (cumming can feel disappointing) and arousal is not the same as erection. I often have a boner when massaging prostate, but it comes and goes. Sometimes my dick looks like veins are going to burst. You can be super horny with a floppy dick. When I'm at it, I don't want to stop, and I would suck any dick or hug any man even though I'm mostly heterosexual. As long as I don't cum after sessions, I feel super horny afterwards, want to watch porn, stroke my dick, selfsuck, have more erections and morning wood.

Prostate play is basically mega edging. I actually don't believe in prostate ORGASM anymore. The reason is that all the "orgasm" videos on tube sites have a cut several seconds before ejaculation, or guy used hands, or was receiving a blowjob, or was squeezing his dick between his legs, or his dick was bouncing up and down as he was riding a dildo. So I just treat it as a massage / edging / fun way to spend time. No expectations. It's stupidly easy with prostate play to edge forever and it feels like I'm just about to cum.

@airbag sounds really great, i also like edging a lot. I cant wait until it acually feels like this.