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Prostate vibrator doesnt cause milking or orgasm , will an Aneros be any different?


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i have been using this prostate vibrator for 6 months and after use it does make my erections stronger and intensifies my ejaculation (from masturbation after), but when using the prostate vibrator, i dont leak any cum or have any pleasurable feelings, i dont even know if its even touching the prostate, i just go in around 2 inches, with the head pointing towards my balls/front, ive also tried going 1-4 inches inside with no chnge

ive tried using it for up to 15 minutes with zero pleasurable feelings or milking/cum

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https://www.amazon.com/Joel-Prostate-Massager-Waterproof-Vibrating/dp/B008HXDIV0

So im thinking of trying an Aneros toy, but with no vibration, how can i achieve a p-orgasm or even milking?
my hands/arms are weak so wouldnt be able to manually move the toy around for very long

i saw a video of guy getting huge sensations just lying on bed and not touching the toy, so thought there must be vibrations to stimulate the prostate rather than a firm toy just resting on it


   
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Hi christay,
the aneros is not comparable to any other toy. It slides inside you and fits perfectly, applying Just enough pressure against your prostate to induce feelings of pleasure and orgasms. By performing strong anal contractions, milking is possible as well. Personally, i am able to have handsfree wet orgasms with the aneros as well. No vibrations needed!


   
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@christay I bet I saw the same video! I used all sorts of anal toys, including some expensive vibrators. And the results were the same as yours—disappointing. I then discovered Aneros through an xtube video. Although I had to be patient with it, the results have been overwhelming. I now get ecstatic orgasm from my prostate that I can repeat over and over again. But you must be patient. It doesn’t happen immediately but nevertheless even the earliest sensations are well worth it. And it only gets much better. (FYI, I am not an employee of Aneros Corporation. ).


   
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thank you for the replies
It's good to hear that im not alone with the prostate vibrator failure

I see you there are different levels/sizes of the Aneros , but as i am used to the p Vibrators I'm not intimidated by using the bigger ones, especially as i dont have to do anything (move it around once its inside)

So will the bigger size bring better results then say the small size?

cold you be a bit more detaile about having to be patient with the aneros? how long do you wait with it inside until yu have pleasurable feeling? do they quickly occur one after another or are you waiting 5+ mins for the next enjoyable feeling?

what % of the time would you say you milk / leak cum?


   
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@christay, my experiences affirm what @simeonh reported. My Nexus G-Rider was as expensive as useless and soon found its place in the cabinet. Some years later I gave Aneros Eupho Syn and Helix Syn another chance, and found pleasures beyond belief. After rewiring I tested my Nexus again and received much more pleasure than before, but nothing near to the bliss I get from Aneros or even Aless*. As I would guess, the stimulation of our prostate must be uncomparable more sensitive to not overlay the subtle vibes sent out from there. Later, when you have learned to read, it's less important that every letter is lined out perfectly. Distractions aren't as confusing as before. Similar to reading, playing instruments or many other motor skills your ability to distinguish finest differences will grow with your prowess. Then your vibrators may earn a second chance. (FYI, only another (satisfied) customer.) Good vibes to you!
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@christay To answer you questions. I started in 2011, lost patience when I didn’t get instant results, and returned to the useless vibrators. Then I saw the video about 15 months ago and tried again. It took almost a year to get to the point where I have multiple orgasms of incredible intensity. But as I said before, even in the interim, the pleasure got better and better. When I started I would insert my helix and just relax for a half hour, paying attention to the wonderful sensations. Then I would get the engine started with a few kegels (see the wiki) and the sensations intensified. Now all I do is put it in and I get my first mini orgasm in a matter of minutes. But it took patience (I know I’m repeating myself). The major orgasms then last several minutes with maybe five minutes in between. These are guesstimates because it’s difficult to look at the clock when one is in ecstasy. I begin leaking precum right from the start, but I have always produced quite a bit. But now I soak myself. Hope that answers your questions about my personal experience. But really all of our experiences are probably individually unique. So have fun.


   
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So will the bigger size bring better results then say the small size?

My experiences concerning the size of Aneros tools:
A matter of size?
Devilish little Eupho taught me a lesson.

... cold you be a bit more detaile about ...

If you think of Aneros tools as a plug and play solution providing a "do this and get that" manual, I'm afraid I must deceive your hopes. Instead the best way to get to the benefit of the Aneros tools is to first unlearn everything you learned about orgasms and the way to get there. Only if you are able to get rid of your expectations and become open for something absolute new and unknown, you will have a chance to find and to stay on your path. And as we all are absolute unique individuals our journeys will vary. Statements of particulars like minutes and percentage will nourish expectations and at the same time will be the biggest hurdle to fulfill them. Take care!


   
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Totally agree with @SOwithoutAneros. I have a nice vibrating prostate massager sitting in a closet. IMHO, they are noisy, distracting and not "hands-free". Aneros tools are not masturbation aids---they are used to provide subtle amplification (sometimes not too subtle!) of prostate sensations. Proper use takes time and patience. It's not fair to "short-circuit" the Aneros approach to prostate pleasure!


   
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Yes vibes no no not good l have 2 in the draw wast of muny min have lot's of different speeds and paternsp
the only way for me is to relax and wayt and sum tims a legal exercise and then bang it starts but this can take hawers iispeshly lf it's bang bang bang sorry can't think of a better word. It can go on a bite.


   
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I see, this is very new to me,

im probably going to buy the Progasm model first as the size doesnt bother me,

i read before how frequent prostate milking is good for prostate health and potentially help preve prostate cancer
is this possible?

as some say during use, they become more horny and i was curious if most masturbate and ejaculate after using the aneros? to "finish themselves off"?
if so, i assume the orgasm / ejcuslation sensation is amplified?


   
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i assume the orgasm / ejaculation sensation is amplified?

First you should learn to separate both. Only thus you learn the way to experience multiple orgasms without ejaculation. Only without ejaculation you can avoid the refractory period along with lower arousal. Only with higher arousal you will get all the benefits your new tool can provide you. And believe me, the best is yet to come and it's not any more only cumming. 😉


   
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so would you say having an orgasm (without ejaculation) with the Aneros feels as pleasurable as a traditional ejaculation from sex/masturbating?

if you had to put a number on it, what would it be?
e.g ?


   
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So im thinking of trying an Aneros toy, but with no vibration, how can i achieve a p-orgasm or even milking? ... i saw a video of guy getting huge sensations just lying on bed and not touching the toy, so thought there must be vibrations to stimulate the prostate rather than a firm toy just resting on it

The path toward achieving prostate based orgasms is very different from traditional masturbatory practices, it involves a paradigm shift in thinking and practice. See the threads Penis, NOT and @rook 's thread Whole Body/Whole Mind - the mental side & @SteelColdiron 's thread Aneros: The Essential Mind State for a little insight here.

Aneros devices are prostate massagers which may or may not be effective as 'milking' tools. Self “milking” with the Aneros via ‘hands free’ manipulation is difficult as one usually needs to be very relaxed for the ejaculatory ducts to open and allow the fluids to flow out of the prostate. The stronger, more vigorous, muscular contractions needed to effectively move the massager create a level of tension which is antithetical to the relaxation of the gland ducts. It is possible to train the various muscle groups to alternately relax and contract to accomplish a “milking” but it will take practice. It is unnecessary to employ strong muscle contractions with your Aneros use as a “massager” to generate orgasmic feelings, hence you can employ it for many hours without triggering a “milking” response.

'Milking' your prostate of seminal fluids can be learned. You can read a short paragraph about Prostate Milking in the “Your Body” chapter of the Aneros WIKI. You can read a longer treatise on prostate milking technique and issues from Lady Lubyanka. There is also a well written blog by Andr. titled HOW TO MILK A BULL which gives step by step descriptions of the process. If you're interested in more information regarding prostate milking here are some links to articles/websites I've run across over the years which I found helpful in my learning.
1.) Self Prostate Milking for Health and Pleasure!
2.) Prostate Massage/Milking

With regard to vibrators, IMHO they are limited in their functionality. In short time use, they can be effective at increasing arousal levels but extended use tends to desensitize the nerves with diminishing pleasurable returns. I'm in agreement with @simeonh, @SOwithoutAneros, @goldenboy & @joneskennk in their comments.

So will the bigger size bring better results then say the small size?

NO, not necessarily, many men even find the diminutive PERIDISE superior at generating orgasmic sensations.

how long do you wait with it inside until yu have pleasurable feeling? do they quickly occur one after another or are you waiting 5+ mins for the next enjoyable feeling? what % of the time would you say you milk /leak cum?

This is impossible to predict as each man's response is different and it even varies from session to session depending on a number of factors. As you become more experienced you will see the variations in your own responses.

i read before how frequent prostate milking is good for prostate health and potentially help prevent prostate cancer is this possible?

While there are scant few (if any) scientific studies regarding any health benefits from prostate milking, common sense logic and anecdotal evidence suggests that prostate massage in general is a healthful practice. Whether 'milking' is healthful is more ambiguous.

as some say during use, they become more horny and i was curious if most masturbate and ejaculate after using the aneros? to "finish themselves off"? if so, i assume the orgasm / ejcuslation sensation is amplified?

Some men do choose to finish off their session with a Super-T. However, as @SOwithoutAneros noted, orgasm and ejaculation are separate events and learning to separate the two will increase your pleasure sessions immensely.

so would you say having an orgasm (without ejaculation) with the Aneros feels as pleasurable as a traditional ejaculation from sex/masturbating? if you had to put a number on it, what would it be? e.g ?

You question is somewhat like are apples better than oranges?, is chocolate better than vanilla? Sometimes YES, sometimes NO, and trying to assign plus/minus percentages is really just a foolish exercise because your experience will be individually unique to you. You can label it as you wish but comparing your experience to others will only be frustrating as you will never be able to match someone else's experience (however you may very well exceed their's).

Please read through and follow the many links I provided in my introductory PM to you, I think after you have done the suggested reading you will be much better informed about the Aneros journey you are about to embark upon. Good Vibes to You !


   
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Thanks to rumel merely anything to add.

Only again, @christay, concerning your repeated questioning about percentages: I couldn't put a number on it.

Which of all my different experiences with traditional masturbations, orgasms and ejaculations should I choose for comparison? And how could I put a number only on them alone? Haven't there been great ejaculations with little arousal and few orgasmic feelings as well as euphoric orgasms with minor ejaculations? This alone already prooves that our traditional jerk off as well consists of an orgasm on the one side and of an ejaculation on the other side as two different parts that aren't as chained as their often nearly simultaneous appearance wants to make us believe.

If you want to learn more about this difference and how to handle it, edging* is a recommended masturbation technique, because it helps to spread the scale between low to highest arousal, orgasm, point of no return and ejaculation. Combined with so called ruined orgasms** you really get the clue, because you learn to provoke an ejaculation suppressing the orgasm, paving the path to the opposite, multiple male orgasms without ejaculation.

And if you will have got there you will forget any questions about percentages.

@rumel is one of the wisest forum members and gave you good advice and reading matter.
Read, read, read and you will get what you need. It helped me so much to inhale all this stuff!

Best wishes, Mart

*edgemeplease.com or search for "C*ck Hero Frenzy" on p*rnhub (Jack-off-instruction-video, NSFW!)
** search for "ruined orgasm" or "dr cumcontrol" on tumblr or p*rnhub or elsewhere


   
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I can't use vibes in my ass anymore because once I do it has pretty much ruined my session. It makes my prostate numb and dull feeling, and sometimes after just a minute. But, it feels kind of good during that minute! I've spent plenty of time trying with vibes and it's not worth it for me. Now dildos on the other hand, that's how I milk my prostate. Only if I'm extremely horny, like I'm getting hard just thinking about using the Aneros, then do I get fluid from Aneros. Sometimes I'm so charged up that upon insertion of whatever Aneros I choose first, I get a bead of prostate fluid, not precum, instantly. But for real milking, g-spot dildo all the way!

I wish Aneros would develop a range of dildos based on their Aneros body shapes but with some tweaks so they aren't exactly the same. I would LOVE a Maximus dildo, for instance...


   
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I find the opposite, I came to Aneros rather late, after learning to have prostate orgasm with N-joy, Tantus and Lelo massagers. I find the Lelo vibrators even more effective after Aneros "rewiring", indeed, all my "toys" are more effective now!


   
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thanks everyone for your detailed replies, ill spend the weekend reading through the recomended inks

thank you


   
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