Progasm Mod

thanks dude. i'm gonna try your gloss mod.

i assume the 12000 is equal to the finishing board, right?.

not being too familiar with finishing, is there anything unobvious in how to wield the papers?

also, had a thought: wouldn't a lucite aneros be way cool?

(i assume lucite is super smooth)

btw, to check out a really nice lucite manual prostate/g-spot stimulator, google "Crystal Wand Deluxe".

darwin

I am going to try sanding/buffing the Progasm as you suggested. I didn't think of that one, but it completely makes sense, because Program doesn't seem to have a glossy sheen to it. I would think that anything that reduces the friction, the better. I'll post my thoughts on it after I do it.

I used a hacksaw and cut off the "shield" that extends from the base of the Progasm, and then filed/sanded it down. To me it served no useful purpose, and wouldn't allow you to comfortably sit with it in. Since I have done this, I am much happier that I can sit without a chair forcing it up into me.

(this post was edited 2007-04-04 19:25:04)

I did the mod, using 1500 grit sandpaper from the hardware store, then buffing it using a fingernail buffer as described. All I can say, this mod rocks. I would recommend it to anyone with the Prograsm. It "dances" inside you against your prostate and feels way better and comfortable when it is smoother like this. My only issue is I can't believe I didn't think of it first.

Actually I would recommend the makers of Aneros to come up with a buffing process, because I feel like I could get it even glossier. Maybe I need to get the 2000 grit sandpaper. Anyone else an expert on buffing a material like this?

Originally Posted By: darwin
i assume the 12000 is equal to the finishing board, right?.

not being too familiar with finishing, is there anything unobvious in how to wield the papers?

also, had a thought: wouldn't a lucite aneros be way cool?

(i assume lucite is super smooth)

btw, to check out a really nice lucite manual prostate/g-spot stimulator, google \\\"Crystal Wand Deluxe\\\".

darwin

Darwin,

Correct. The 12,000 grit is the finishing board. The only learning curve I had on the process was that the sandpaper or finishing board doesn't last long, so get some extra and check it regularly and replace it when it wears down. I cut the paper in to 2" x 4" pieces. Light pressure only, like you're using it on your fingernails, and just take your time. The FDA plastic is similar to a fingernail in hardness and how it responds to sandpaper.

I bought a single sheet of the 2000 grit, and used about half of it on the progasm. I bought 5 finshing boards and went thru 2 of them.

I think lucite or something with equal gloss would be great. I don't want to be too picky, but I was thinking that for $67, our buddies at High Island would take the time to buff these out better before shipping. I'm sure there's a fair amount of post-production sanding going on anyway.

I forgot to mention that I hand-rubbed it for awhile afterward with a dry cotton cloth which appeared to buff it out even more.

Originally Posted By: anonymous
I used a hacksaw and cut off the "shield" that extends from the base of the Progasm, and then filed/sanded it down.

Maybe I need to get the 2000 grit sandpaper. Anyone else an expert on buffing a material like this?

I also cut off the shield. I couldn't see a use for it aside for advertising. The link I posted above has 2000 and 12000 grit paper available.

My 1st experiment in buffing this was with a buffing wheel on a dremel tool. Way too high RPM, and I burnt the plastic immediately.

That's a good idea, I think I'll be sanding and buffing my Helix tomorrow or so.

Though, how does cutting off the handle help? You said it increases the responsiveness with light contractions. How is that? Just a little bit of weight removed helps that much?

I ordered the same sandpaper and finishing boards as BlueStone has recommended, and we'll see how that goes. I got pretty good results using 1500 grit and a "3 stage" fingernail buffer, but now I want super super glossy after feeling how much greater it is when smoother. I used it again last night, and all I can say is wow. Will post results when finished.

(this post was edited 2007-04-07 05:46:19)

Originally Posted By: GoodIdea
That's a good idea, I think I'll be sanding and buffing my Helix tomorrow or so.

Though, how does cutting off the handle help? You said it increases the responsiveness with light contractions. How is that? Just a little bit of weight removed helps that much?

Cutting the handle off won't reduce the weight to any significant degree.

Without the handle, there is no spring resistance against the forward tilt of the aneros when you make a contraction. Because of that, a lighter contraction is possible because you're not 'fighting' it as much. Also, there is no spring to draw the business end back when you release the contraction. These are felt as very subtle changes.

On my classic, mgx, and helix, I cut the handles off all the way up to the shaft, so there's no protrusion, and the aneros looks like a "J". Aside from the (in my opinion) better responsiveness, the handle is not there to interfere when lying on my back.

With the Progasm, it penetrates noticeably deeper without the K-tab. I wrestled with potentially ruining a $67 unit, but I'm very happy with the result.

These are purely my opinions, YMMV. As far as I'm concerned, these are very expensive pieces of plastic. Every time I take a hacksaw to one of these, I'm fully prepared to either buy a new one or do without.

Edit:
OK, I'm going totally overboard here, but...

I ordered the "Micro-Mesh Soft Touch Finishing Pads" from the link below - http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Finishing_supplies/Abrasives,_polishes,_buffers/Micro-Mesh_Soft_Touch_Finishing_Pads.html .

These pads give you progressively finer finishing grades from 2400, 3200, 3600, 4000, 6000, 8000 to 12000-grit. They suggest wet sanding, which won't clog the sandpaper, and it makes it last longer.

I just tried this on the base of the Prograsm wet sanding with all 7 grits. The area I finished with this process is now like glass. Now I just need about an hour to finish the rest of it undisturbed. It may not move any better than with the dang-near gloss I described earlier, but I'll rest assured that I couldn't have gotten it any smoother.

(this post was edited 2007-04-07 13:12:33)

I am like you, where I won't rest until I know I've gotten it as glossy as possible, so I have also ordered the 7 micro-mesh finishing pads so I can rest easier knowing I got it was glossy as possible, and make it the most responsive and comfortable it could possibly be.

All I've done so far is used 1500 grit and the fingernail buffer which has made a world of difference. I can't wait to get the other materials to get a "glass like" finish.

count me in... i ordered the 2000 grit paper and the set of 7 pads.

darwin

I got my Progasm by mail on Saturday, in what I thought was incredibly fast shipping time, especially since I live in a small town. I haven't felt the need to go through a complicated buffing routine, but I do have one suggestion for the manufacturer: Do something about the glue that fixed the aneros to the shipping card. It took me an hour of scraping, hot water soaking, dribbling GOOGONE fluid to get the residue--which was about three times what was needed--off of the aneros. I wasn't about to stick something like that inside me till I could at least feel that the residue was gone. Otherwise, a great product!

Hey Guys!

It is funny that some of my units are very smooth and some are not...

Maybe the production process has changed a little over the years???

I do agree, however, that my Progasm could be a little slicker for more movement. I may try your method. (anyone try steel wool or some polish or other???)

Oh well, sounds like you have your own R&D going??? LOL! Keep up the good work, Guys! Communication is Great!

Later, Hlaser

about the packaging glue on the progasm: i had the same experience. had to resort to Goof Off. I mentioned this as a "negative" in my original Progasm review.

about steel wool: i don't think that would work. this mod depends on very fine grain buffing, up to grade 12000. steel wool is much coarser than that (i think super fine, ie 0000, is equal to 220 sandpaper)

darwin

As Bluestone did, I also cut off (and obviously sanded down) the K tab on my Prograsm. I debated and debated, but I am glad I did. It put the focus more on the prostate, and makes the orgasms stronger in my opinion. But I will say the K tab had intriguing sensations. But if I had to do it all over, I'd still cut off the K tab.

I just wanna say thanks to BlueStone for starting this thread!

I managed to give my new Eupho a beautiful, glossy shine using only a 2 stage fingernail buffer and little elbow grease. When I test drove it afterwards, the results were simply amazing! It's so slick and mobile now, it almost has mind of it's own!

I ordered a couple sheets of the 2000 grade paper from the website you linked and plan to do my Progasm next. Who knows, maybe I'll even take off the K-Tab while I'm at it...

Thanks again for sharing such a great idea with the Forum!

Pan

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OK Guys!

Count me in too!

I was happy to see that the site is for Guitar Luthiers! I now have another source for these specialty supplies too!

I am, and have been, a guitar enthusiast for most of my life. (since highschool and the fond memories I have of our Rock N' Roll group and the special times we had way back when!) Now I am older and slower and play mostly blues and soft stuff???

Any way, thanks for the "Mod" and for the new site!

Later, Hlaser

(this post was edited 2007-04-10 09:13:53)

Originally Posted By: Pan
I just wanna say thanks to BlueStone for starting this thread!

I managed to give my new Eupho a beautiful, glossy shine using only a 2 stage fingernail buffer and little elbow grease. When I test drove it afterwards, the results were simply amazing! It's so slick and mobile now, it almost has mind of it's own!

I ordered a couple sheets of the 2000 grade paper from the website you linked and plan to do my Progasm next. Who knows, maybe I'll even take off the K-Tab while I'm at it...

Thanks again for sharing such a great idea with the Forum!

Pan

question: did you gloss the neck?

i'm wondering what the pros and cons of that are.

this goes directly to the question of what the design intention of the next gen neck are.

on the first gen designs, the neck is ribbed, presumably for gripping (or is it for stimulation?)

with the eupho, is it supposed to slide maximally in there or is gripping desirable to augment the power of the motion?

i know the neck is an hourglass shape. as somebody pointed out, it is possible that the increasing girth at the extremities is what drives the unit. (ie, the sphincter dilates a little at the extremities, forcing increasing grip there).

i guess the proof is in the pudding:
- did the increased mobility translate into improved feelings and arousal response?
- how about in the anus?

darwin

Hi All!

My SGX & MGX both have the "speed bumps" towards the end of the neck, but I don't know if this is good or bad...I just like it that way, I guess???

I intend to make my Progasm slick all the way down the neck and stop there! And I think the rough finish on the balls should be good for traction.

Also I use the "K" tab as a "P" tab, when I turn it around 180 degrees, so I will not be cutting anything off! I still use it backwards at least as often as forwards...

My 2 cents...

Later, Hlaser

Hi Guys,

yes I did gloss the neck as well.

Thanks for reminding me, because I *would* suggest leaving the neck unglossed for better traction.

I wouldn't say that glossing the neck "ruined" my Eupho in any way. It just made it a tad more difficult to grip and move with my sphincter.

However, the incredible increase in mobility and stimulation of my prostate, more than makes up for it. Of course, in hindsight, if there was some way I could "ungloss" the neck, I would. But fortunately, the Eupho is so incredibly thin and mobile to begin with, that the slightest contractions can still produce some wild results. I suppose glossing the neck on a model like the Helix might pose more of a problem?

As for whether the increased mobility translated into increased arousal and response? My answer is:

OMG YES! It's so slick and smooth, it reminds me of the first time I masturbated with Astroglide. After that, "dry jerking" was almost unthinkable! It's the same with this Mod. Once I felt the difference, I knew there was just no going back. I simply MUST do this to ALL of my Aneros models. LOL.

Oh and as a final thought, I have to mention after seeing it recommended in another thread somewhere, I decided to try a new lubricant called "Boy Butter." All I can say is WOW! It's incredibly slippery like a silicone lube, but washes off just like a water-based lube. Plus no more need to inject lube into the rectum ahead of time.

So as if the new mod isn't amazing enough, try combining it with Boy Butter and look out!

Enjoy!

Pan

Originally Posted By: Pan

OMG YES! It's so slick and smooth, it reminds me of the first time I masturbated with Astroglide. After that, "dry jerking" was almost unthinkable! It's the same with this Mod. Once I felt the difference, I knew there was just no going back. I simply MUST do this to ALL of my Aneros models. LOL.

If you think masturbation with Astroglide is great, you really need to try ID cream if you haven't. To me, it's easily the best thing you can put on your hand and masturbate with. Hands down. Honestly, it feels better than a fleshlight, and almost (but obviously not quite) on par with a blowjob.

http://www.idlube.com/cream/cream.php

Well, actually I was just using Astroglide as an example because I can remember a time when there seemed to be only two lubes on the market - KY Jelly and Astroglide. And everybody knew Astroglide was the one to jerk off with. LOL.

But I outgrew Astroglide and have since decided to see other lubricants.

😉

Anyway, haven't tried ID Cream specifically, but thanks for the tip.

I could see where you were going. But to reiterate, when you have the ID cream on your hand, your fingers will almost feel like tongues. I am not exaggerating. And it doesn't really dry out, so you don't have to constantly reapply. I'd compare it to vasoline, but 5 times better. It's not too bad to cleanup either, for something that is oil based.

Combine that with the Aneros, and lookout...

Originally Posted By: Pan
Hi Guys,

yes I did gloss the neck as well.

Thanks for reminding me, because I *would* suggest leaving the neck unglossed for better traction.

I wouldn't say that glossing the neck \"ruined\" my Eupho in any way. It just made it a tad more difficult to grip and move with my sphincter.

However, the incredible increase in mobility and stimulation of my prostate, more than makes up for it. Of course, in hindsight, if there was some way I could \"ungloss\" the neck, I would. But fortunately, the Eupho is so incredibly thin and mobile to begin with, that the slightest contractions can still produce some wild results. I suppose glossing the neck on a model like the Helix might pose more of a problem?

As for whether the increased mobility translated into increased arousal and response? My answer is:

OMG YES! It's so slick and smooth, it reminds me of the first time I masturbated with Astroglide. After that, \"dry jerking\" was almost unthinkable! It's the same with this Mod. Once I felt the difference, I knew there was just no going back. I simply MUST do this to ALL of my Aneros models. LOL.

Oh and as a final thought, I have to mention after seeing it recommended in another thread somewhere, I decided to try a new lubricant called \"Boy Butter.\" All I can say is WOW! It's incredibly slippery like a silicone lube, but washes off just like a water-based lube. Plus no more need to inject lube into the rectum ahead of time.

So as if the new mod isn't amazing enough, try combining it with Boy Butter and look out!

Enjoy!

Pan

i took receipt of my 2000 and 7-pack tonight.

i applied them to the helix and eupho (but not their necks).

i must say, i was expecting a higher gloss. i could feel that it was smoother, but not conspicuously, and visually they were unchanged.

pan, did you actually get a gloss?

what i did:
- cut the 2000 into 2x4 inch squares. sanded for about 3 minutes, using up two of the squares.
- wet the 2400 with soapy water. sanded/buffed for a couple of minutes
- and on down the line to the 12000

so, how did they perform?

see my post in My Best Super-O, that's how.

darwin

I'm glad to see that folks are getting positive results on this. BTW, I'm not affiliated with Stewart McDonald in any way...

I ended up spending about 30 minutes Saturday sanding/buffing my Progasm with the micro-mesh pads, starting with the 2400 grit. Used just a few drops of soap in the solution, and took my time. After I got to 12000, all the 'easy' areas to polish were glossy. There were areas that didn't polish up as well, and I went back over them starting back with the 2400 and working my way back up to 12000. I polished the entire thing except for the p-tab/ball.

I ended up using a fair amount of pressure, to the point where my hands hurt the next day.

Took it for a test drive Sunday night & though I can't say it was appreciably better than the first time I polished it, I'm very happy with the results.

Pan,
If you want to take the gloss back off the neck, just use the 2000 grit again where you want to rough up the finish, and that should take the polish off sufficiently.

Originally Posted By: darwin

i took receipt of my 2000 and 7-pack tonight.

i applied them to the helix and eupho (but not their necks).

i must say, i was expecting a higher gloss. i could feel that it was smoother, but not conspicuously, and visually they were unchanged.

pan, did you actually get a gloss?

darwin

Hi darwin!

yes, I did get a significant gloss compared to the previous look and feel before I buffed it.

When I received my Eupho, I have to admit, it had the worst surface condition of all the models I've gotten. It had a couple specifically rough patches, and I could even feel the molding seem along it's centerline.

After reading through this thread a bit, my glance just happened to fall on my wife's "EzFlow Pro Shine 2-Step Nail Shine" buffer. So I grabbed it and spent the next 90 minutes or so buffing away, until it was completely smooth, free of rough patches and molding seem, and had nice glossy sheen to it.

I have since ordered a couple of the 2000 grade sheets from the website BlueStone provided and plan to do my Progasm with the 2000 first, and then finish it off with a couple more of those EzFlow buffers (my wife says they cost around $3-4 each at Long's Drugstore) since it worked so well on my Eupho.

I'm not sure how much an actual glossy appearance matters. Maybe BlueStone will chime in here? But for me, it definitely seemed to coincide with the increase in smoothness and mobility.

Hope this helps man!

Pan

Originally Posted By: BlueStone

Pan,
If you want to take the gloss back off the neck, just use the 2000 grit again where you want to rough up the finish, and that should take the polish off sufficiently.

Thanks again BlueStone!

I'm expecting the sheets to arrive within a few days and I will definitely give it a try.

Pan

Pan and all,

I've been reading this thread with interest over the past week. Just as a side note, it's no accident that the finish of the Aneros is of a matte type, actually it is by design. The concept is that a surface with a small amount of texture serves as a better foundation for a lubricant to adhere to . The idea is that a smoother surface would allow most of the lubrication to be removed by the anus, almost like a squeegee, as it passes through the anal canal. In my opinion, if this was ever true, such an effect would be obviated by prelubrication, which is a fairly typical procedure for most users these days. Under these circumstances, a smoother lubricated surface would seem to be the way to go. Keep us posted.

BF Mayfield

The gloss mod was a good one! thx for the advise.

BTW if you want to "ungloss" the speedbumps, just get some coarser sandpaper and go at it. Id recommend buffing it up to 4000.

The aneros itself seems like it comes buffed to about a 4000 grit level, right out of the package. I used several grit sheets from 2000 up to 12000 and at 4000 it was almost the same as being fresh out of the box.

These guys definitely need to be sanding the units to a gloss before shipping them out! Its a really nice upgrade imho.

I did an SGX with the bumps and a helix in about 1 1/2 hrs going through about 6 grits of paper.

did anyone besides me use wet sanding?

geez, an hour and a half?? it took me about 20 min to do the eupho and 15 to do the helix.

i just felt like nothing was changing.

but, maybe i don't know much about buffing and as a result didn't get the shine the rest of you all did. maybe i'll go at it again.

by the way, all this work leads me to the question: how to store our shiny friends? used to be i just stored the whole gang, including syringe and lube in a tupperware, co-mingling. but now i'm thinking each one needs its own baby sock or something.

darwin

Wet sanding is the only way to go. The sanding surface will last much longer that way, particularly with the 12000 grit.

At the end of the day, I think sanding & polishing helps a LOT, but going for a total gloss finish (for me, anyway) just indulges my OCD. And now that my Progasm is all glossed up, I'll go back to my Classic & do the same to it, now that I've invested the $15 in sanding/polishing supplies.

I also think the occasional touch-up is a necessity, so I bought a few spares.

On to storage....
I store them in the same container, so they're only in contact with one another. Taking it to the extreme, I was thinking of a nicely cushioned box with a hinged lid, much like a humidor with separate compartments for each, maybe with a nice crushed velvet, say, purple... I wouldn't go as far as to customize each compartment's size for the particular device, but the choice of wood would be important. Mahogany or cherry would be nice, and I'd use my sanding supplies to provide a nice finish. Stew Mac also sells a fine variety of wood finishes, but my preference would be polyurethane. Gloss, of course. :0)

But seriously, my primary storage objective is to put them where my kids won't find them. Socks are good. The lube stays in my wife's toy bag.