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(@peter49)
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Hi,

I've been married for nearly 40 years and we only have straight penetrative sex. My wife is very traditional and is not keen on anything different. She does not like me touching her butt at all, and she will not touch mine. It is only recently I have been able to get her to start giving me a hand job. Over the years I have tried a vibrator I used to have up my back door, but it never became a habit. A big problem I have is a spinal injury called Cauda Equina Syndrome (CE) which is nerve damage near the base of the spinal chord. This has given me some E.D. for which I use Viagra with varying results. However for the last few months I find it almost impossible to climax. Sometimes I can ejaculate, but it is quite rare. In a month I am due to see my Sexual Function nurse at my Spinal Injury Unit to see if she can help with the problems.

I bought an MGX this week to see if this might help and have tried using it on Thursday and today. The sessions have lasted about an hour and I use Maximus Anal Lubricant. So far I have not been able to feel any sensation in my rectum, but I wonder if that is to do with my CE. When I have an anal douche before starting, I can only just feel a slight sensation of anything inside me. I think I am relaxed during my sessions but wonder if it is a problem with arousal. Before the session I have been reading the forum and watching some videos. I may have an erection when I insert the Aneros, but it goes flaccid soon after.

One thing I wonder is if I am getting the wrong type of contractions. I mean using my pelvic floor, instead of sphincter muscles. Any help on making sure I am doing the right ones please?

Also I find lube getting onto the P-tab. As this can then slide a bit on the perineum acupressure point, will this stop the Aneros working properly?

In the Learning Centre one thing said is “During this practice you can lie on your back and push your hips down against a surface if you like. This helps the Aneros add more pressure against the prostate and the perineum.” Sorry, but I don't understand how you push your hips down against a surface. What do you do?

One last thing, even with the Aneros in position at the end of a session I cannot even maintain an erection to ejaculate.



   
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rumel
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Peter49,

Welcome to the Aneros Forums, your best source of information for learning about using the Aneros prostate massagers. I am sorry to hear of your spinal injury disability. Due to that injury, it is problematic whether you will be able to detect the subtle pleasure sensations the Aneros massagers normally induce. However, there are a few issues I can clarify for you.

I may have an erection when I insert the Aneros, but it goes flaccid soon after.

This is a frequent experience even for non-injured men, your erectile state has no effect on your ability to obtain pleasure from your massager.

One thing I wonder is if I am getting the wrong type of contractions. I mean using my pelvic floor, instead of sphincter muscles. Any help on making sure I am doing the right ones please?

It is better to think in terms of effective & non-effective versus right & "wrong" when discussing any techniques. You may need to do a lot of experimenting to find the right combination of contractions and stimulation to build orgasmic energy. The Instructions are just a suggested list of beginners guidelines (not rules) for starting the learning process or "rewiring" as it is frequently referred to here on the Forum. The path/journey toward the Super-O is more than the attaining of a certain state of sensual/sexual/physical arousal. This process involves your "awakening" your prostate, listening to your body, becoming more attuned to the many subtle feelings being generated and then gently nurturing those feelings into heightened physical and emotional states. Each person is unique so the steps along the pathway will differ for each one of us, there is no ONE formula for progress.

Also I find lube getting onto the P-tab. As this can then slide a bit on the perineum acupressure point, will this stop the Aneros working properly?

Minor P-tab slippage shouldn't significantly impair the functionality of your massager and it is a simple matter to use facial tissure to remove any excess lube affecting the perineal area. For some men, locating the perineal acupressure point ("sweet spot") is elusive at best, you need not be overly concerned with this issue as your device will still function as intended despite some imprecision for the P-tab.

In regard to pushing one's hips down while reclined on your back, I think they are referring to a slow rocking motion of the pelvis with the buttocks as a fulcrum point, you alternately flex (arch) and relax the lumbar section of your spine, which has the action of raising and lowering the hip bone.



   
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(@peter49)
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A bit of tissue wrapped round the P-tab has solved the problem thanks.

After relaxing more and trying to gently tighten sphincter muscles I am making GOOD progress! Managed to several times get my anal muscles to spasm. VERY nice feeling as the Aneros hit the spot for me. It felt like a finger gently tapping away. My only complaint was I could not keep holding the position for the spasm to last more than about a minute each time. It may be because of my spinal condition I start to tense up because I can easily get back pain. Any suggestions for keeping the spasm going?

I am willing to do more homework to improve my performance. 🙂



   
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(@peter49)
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Forgot to say, I wonder if getting enough lube in the rectum may have spoiled my previous sessions. So an applicator should arrive by post tomorrow. I know this will not make things worse, but do you think this will improve my chances of getting better performance from my Aneros?



   
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I don't inject lube, just apply a thin coating of it into the anal canal and onto the Aneros. This allows for more than adequate movement of the massager to produce dry orgasms in my case. Opinions will vary on this issue however. The best contraction method for producing results I have found is getting very relaxed (I do best on my back with my knees up and relaxed apart some) and doing gentle PC muscle contractions, like the gentle "pull" you would use to cut off urine flow midstream. Lightly tickling my nipples while doing this really accelerates the sensations and the resultant orgasms that follow.



   
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(@peter49)
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It may just be that I am getting the right muscles working and the re-wiring is starting, but I found the Aneros was being pulled onto my prostate much more easily now. Perhaps I will try not injecting on one session - provided it doesn't spoil my enjoyment!



   
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(@peter49)
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Thinking about being aroused during a session. I know that if I get any change in sensation in my penis my thoughts immediately get drawn to my penis and perhaps start to focus on just this. (wonder why, after all, its only a penis)

Am I correct in thinking this focussing on the penis, even if there is no direct penile stimulation, is not very helpful, or should I just not worry about it?



   
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(@slimjm)
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Nothing wrong with thinking about it, just don't touch it as almost invariably that will lead to traditional penile stimulation touching which blocks out the subtle feedback of sensations upon those nerves overlying your prostate that the Aneros stimulates through your rectal wall.



   
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(@peter49)
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The old joke about wearing boxing gloves comes to mind.

Thanks. I will try to bring the penis thoughts into harmony with all the other sensations, but see if I can stop it dominating everything. Hopefully this will keep me aware of all the subtle sensations that are occurring.



   
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(@peter49)
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I am making good progress and enjoying the ride!

A side affect of having CE is my bowel and bladder function is not very good. Particularly I have difficulty feeling if I have gas or solid in the bowel. I use a bulb type douche before a session to clean out the rectum but often find this is not very effective. Would it be an idea to try a water bottle type enema?



   
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I am making good progress and enjoying the ride!

A side affect of having CE is my bowel and bladder function is not very good. Particularly I have difficulty feeling if I have gas or solid in the bowel. I use a bulb type douche before a session to clean out the rectum but often find this is not very effective. Would it be an idea to try a water bottle type enema?

Congratulations Peter on the pleasure you are achieving!

As far as a more aggressive enema routine is concerned, that's probably a question best addressed to your Nurse at the Spinal Clinic.

I'd guess that maintenance of good bowel function might be high on your list of priorities. And, that rather precise measurement of fluid volume might do well to get the desired result without overdoing and creating a habitual dependence on enema.



   
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(@peter49)
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I cope OK with my bowel function normally. It is just it sometimes spoils a session. That is why I wondered about using more volume in an enema.



   
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Following some advice rook had PM'd me, I tried using my bulb type douche twice before evacuating to get a greater volume of water inside. I did this twice and all seemed clear. I then lubed up and had a session with my Aneros. All went well until about an hour and a half when I had a sensation I might need to have a BM. I need to point out that often I don't know I need a BM, only that there is a "sense" I might need to. This was what I had, a "sense" I needed a BM, and I was correct.

As I had been having such a pleasant time in my session, I decided to clean up and continue!

I wonder if I need to consider an enema that uses a colon tube to clean further inside, or if just a greater volume of water will achieve this anyway?



   
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Following some advice rook had PM'd me, I tried using my bulb type douche twice before evacuating to get a greater volume of water inside. I did this twice and all seemed clear. I then lubed up and had a session with my Aneros. All went well until about an hour and a half when I had a sensation I might need to have a BM. I need to point out that often I don't know I need a BM, only that there is a "sense" I might need to. This was what I had, a "sense" I needed a BM, and I was correct.

As I had been having such a pleasant time in my session, I decided to clean up and continue!

Ninety minutes is well within the range of session length for most Aneros users; and, we all experience an occasional "surprise." To me, that sounds like an improved sense of your bowel fullness and that's a good step along your path. I would take this milestone as a success in your path of progress. Remember to optimize your fiber intake so that your bowel habits are rather predictable from day to day.

Were I in your situation, I'd proceed gradually in making changes in fluid volume. Try the same volume for several sessions before you increase or decrease the measured volume.

If you continue to sense urgency to defecate during a session you might be sensitive to the lube contents. Over 1/3 of Forum members have some sensitivity to glycerin in the lube they use. If you continue to get "surprises" you might check on the contents of your lube and make another choice.

I wonder if I need to consider an enema that uses a colon tube to clean further inside, or if just a greater volume of water will achieve this anyway?

Remember that the objective here is to use just a sufficient volume of water to clean your rectum and avoid introducing fluid into the sigmoid colon or further up your lower GI sysem. So, routine use of a colon tube for pre-session douches would seem to be a step in the wrong direction.



   
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(@peter49)
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Is there any link between penile and non-penile orgasm?

I ask because it is nearly impossible for me to have a penile one at the moment because of my CE and I am worried I may miss out on getting any form of O! 🙁



   
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