This is continuation of the previous thread that you can find here - https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/16567/the-truth-behind-how-to-rewire
I think this merits its own thread because there seems to be some confusion about the penis.
Let me state this - the penis is good and sexual pleasure in the penis during an aneros session, in aless sessions or just in day to day life is a normal part of super orgasms, dry orgasms and pleasure waves.
I have great sensations in my cock during aneros sessions and during aless sessions - in fact during aless sessions they are kinda what pulls me along into dry orgasms.
Let me explain:
Prostate orgasms, super orgasms etc. don't mean that the penis isn't involved at all. The only thing we don't want to do is tense our pc muscles and stroke/touch our cocks. That will lead to ejaculation for most people.
But sensations in our penis, sexual ones, are great. It's a combination of penis sensations, anal sensations and other sensations that when focused on and combined together create the super orgasm.
As you go through the steps from part 1 of this post - you will find that your penis starts getting hard. That's a GOOD thing. Gentlemen, when we get aroused our penis is going to respond.
In fact for most of us our arousal will START when our penis responds aka you will only notice you are aroused when your penis starts to respond.
BUT, here is where it differs. We want to keep our body and especially our genital area relaxed. Normally when we get aroused we tend to "help" our cock get hard by flexing our PC muscles and tensing down there so we can get hard to either wank or have penetrative sex.
With the super orgasms etc. what we need to do is keep relaxed as our penis starts to respond.
The magical thing here is that by keeping relaxed and NOT helping the penis along whilst we build our arousal through mental fantasies or reading erotica or watching porn you will suddenly start to feel all the subtle sensations that come with arousal and erection.
Suddenly you will realise that as your cock starts to get hard there is pulsing in your PC muscles. You never noticed that before.
There's a pressure/aching/throbbing/twitching in your anal passage behind your cock. You've never noticed that before. That's your prostate swelling.
By keeping relaxed you realise that even though your cock is getting hard, by staying relaxed you notice all of these sensations in your anus. You'll start to notice rushes of warmth or tingling excitment as your arousal builds.
Remember this - most of the time you will NOT notice your prostate, anal twitching etc. until AFTER your cock starts to respond. So the cock is kinda necessary to kickstart the other sensations.
BUT again - this is only the case when you allow your cock to grow slowly and naturally thanks to arousal from your fantasy or watching porn/reading erotica. Forcing yourself to be aroused by trying to get an erection won't work.
Also - more erection does not equal more prostate/anal/abdomen sensations. So once you start feeling those sensations down there don't think that more erection will increase the sensations - mental focus and relaxation will do that for you regardless of penile erection.
Now during an aneros session your cock may become flaccid again but that's not a problem because after a while it will do that if you've been at it for a while. Without any touching your cock will go eventually go flaccid but you might still feel delicious sensations in it.
Then as you reach super orgasm your cock might well get hard again.
The point is that your cock IS a part of your aneros and aless sessions - you WILL get hard and you WILL have sensations in there and that is GOOD and necessary.
As long as you don't touch it there is no problem with you having tons of cock sensation. Hell you might even have cock centered dry orgasms - which feel incredible btw.
So, don't think you are doing something "wrong" if you have pleasure in your cock during a session.
For me, during aless sessions I typically need my cock to be involved.
Sitting down is my favourite position as the tip of my cock is nestled nicely in the folds of my trousers (pants you for yanks). As I get aroused and stay relaxed my cock starts to get hard and I feel it rubbing the fabric which adds to my arousal.
And because I am relaxed and let my cock grow on its own with no physical help from me it grows SLOWLY and that enables me to pay attention to all of the feelings appearing in my ass, perinium and stomach as it grows.
These all combine and I have orgasms. Typically my cock is rock hard when I have orgasms aless and I have tons of pleasure in it as well because it is pressed into my trousers.
Conclusion
Don't think you've fucked up if your cock gets hard. It's normal and needs to get hard. BUT, just make sure you stay relaxed and don't help it along. This will cause your erection to build slowly and naturally as you get aroused and it's THIS slowness that will enable you to start feeling all the prostate, anal and other sensations that are necessary for dry, prostate and super orgasms.
I completely agree @Neros!. I might add that during a session, pleasure in any part of the body should be welcome. It is, after all, "Pleasurable". I, for one, feel amazing sensations in my penis. At times, it feels so engorged that I feel as if I'm about to ejaculate although, when I check myself, it is completely flaccid. At times, I feel pleasure in my feet, my scalp, my buttocks, even my tongue. I welcome the pleasure wherever it shows itself. I'm most certainly not going to be disappointing in pleasure in my penis, just because it may feel the most familiar.
Thank you again for your inspiring words!
-LS
Neros:
Your time and devotion to help other guys in writing so prolifically is appreciated. Yesterday I thought about posting to you to "synopsize" your instructions to us so that we can distill the essense of what we need to remember and today, here is your synopsis.
Thank you man for taking so much time and interest to helping guys on this forum. Again, it is appreciated.
@neros, more great stuff. thanks. Usually for me arousal always starts in my prostate and then later on the penis will respond. It will start to swell and feel pleasureable but almost always I uncontrollably flex my pc muscle. No matter how relaxed I cant help it. Is this just a sign I need to relax more? I have once in a while had an erection happen where I didnt flex the pc but this is rare for me.
@neros, argee somewhat with some of what your are saying, however, disagree with some of your post.
Arousal and erections do not have to be connected to have a very pleasurable experience.
For a lot of us I suspect progress initially was slowed because we put too much empasis on our penis and made it more difficult to zero in on the feelings in the prostate. Penis good feelings are secondary for me.
"As you go through the steps from part 1 of this post - you will find
that your penis starts getting hard. That's a GOOD thing. Gentlemen,
when we get aroused our penis is going to respond."
I frequently have aneros or aless sessions what I am not hard or only semi-hard. Sometimes I'm rock hard but even when soft I get pleaurable feelings in my penis.
"In fact for most of us our arousal will START when our penis responds
aka you will only notice you are aroused when your penis starts to
respond."
My arousal starts with the good feelings in my prostate. As I have these good feelings I frequently get wet with pre-cum but the good feelings did not start in my penis, my penis good feelings are a result of the good feelings that began in my prostate.
"Remember this - most of the time you will NOT notice your prostate,
anal twitching etc. until AFTER your cock starts to respond."
I thinkyou have this backwards. Most of the time after you notice pleasure in the prostate the cock begins to respond (hard or soft) At least that is what happens with me. I always begin (aneros/aless) by noticing feelings in the prostate and then concentrate and enjoy whatever starts to happen.
"Also - more erection does not equal more prostate/anal/abdomen
sensations. So once you start feeling those sensations down there don't
think that more erection will increase the sensations - mental focus and
relaxation will do that for you regardless of penile erection."
Agree complete but you seem to contradict earlier statements.
Everyone is different but If I initially concentrate on feelings in my penis I take much longer (if ever) to get to that wonderful O zone.Not saying you shouldn't try that, may work for some, but generally I found too much emphasis on the penis slows things down. My prostate heats up very fast, the penis is secondary.
Ive been saying this for a while, not so much that the penis rules the session (which i have said as well) but that it is an integral part of the session as a whole. I still fell 'more' feelings in my prostate when my cock is erect as opposed to when it is not. I have been told over and over that this is somehow wrong focus, but ive found focusing on this has helped me!
However unlike you during my aless sessions i never have an erection, its always soft, the mirror opposite of my sessions (interestingly the aless feelings are so different to my sessions with the aneros as well)
Relative to the controversy of an erection enhancing the rewiring experience:
I know one factor implicit in this matter is age. A couple of friends in their sixties (as I am) on this forum who are rewired report no erections whatsoever in their super Os.
I would expect a younger guy to be in better erectile health than an older guy. I know for myself, I can become somewhat engourged when my prostate is aroused, but I have had nothing more in the erectile department. I am hoping for more as for many years now, I have sought for the fountain of youth and what guys describe on these forums is the closest thing to the fountain of youth I have read about.
When I have gotten those semis with prostate arousal, like inhope, there was a psychological boost to the experience in pleasure and physicality, knowing that I was aroused.
I agree with @aquiescense. Almost always the pleasure starts in my prostate and rarely do I get an erection. If i do get an erection, or it feels like one, if I look its actually flaccid. I have also noticed over the years that I get less and less erections during my sessions. In the beginning they were quite often where it would go up and down, now its very rare for me to get any kind of erection, unless of course I stimulate my nipples, then its rock hard until I stop.
Well put, Aneros.
While my experience is very similar, it is unique to me and there are slight variations.
Thank you for being so succinct, yet thorough.
brine
@acquiescense thanks for your thoughts. I actually completely agree with most of what you say - I think I didn't explain myself too well so there's some confusion.
Remember - I'm explaining this to people that aren't as far into the journey as you are. People who aren't "rewired". Most of them aren't too aware of their prostate right now.
I agree that the more you are aware of the prostate the more you feel the arousal their first. But for most "beginner's" that's not really the case.
I frequently have aneros or aless sessions what I am not hard or only semi-hard. Sometimes I'm rock hard but even when soft I get pleaurable feelings in my penis.
Yep - even when soft you get pleasurable feelings. Absolutely. What I am saying is that instead of rushing from zero erection to 100% erection, people need to slow down as the BEGINNING of the erection is where we notice all of the prostate swelling, twitching etc.
What I'm talking about is people need to be hyper aware of the point their penis STARTS to stiffen SLIGHTLY as there are so many subtle and pleasurable sensations in the perinium and anus as this happens.
My arousal starts with the good feelings in my prostate. As I have these good feelings I frequently get wet with pre-cum but the good feelings did not start in my penis, my penis good feelings are a result of the good feelings that began in my prostate.
Great! I tend to be the same depending on how aroused I am. Again, most newbies won't feel this because they aren't very much in touch with their prostate and anus.
Remember of course that the exercise I talk of in part 1 of this post is something beginners need to start doing outside of sessions BEFORE they do it in sessions.
With an aneros inside you the prostate is hard to ignore once you've got a bit of experience but again newbies struggle with this. If they can locate pleasurable feelings inside their anus and on their prostate using just the exercise in part 1 without an aneros inside them then their sessions with aneros are going to really take off.
And typically for a newbie to have pleasurable feelings in the prostate without an aneros stimulating it then they need to get aroused and allow their penis to respond slightly as well.
I thinkyou have this backwards. Most of the time after you notice pleasure in the prostate the cock begins to respond (hard or soft) At least that is what happens with me. I always begin (aneros/aless) by noticing feelings in the prostate and then concentrate and enjoy whatever starts to happen.
Great! Obviously different people are at different points in their journey. Depending on how horny I am, I typically feel the pleasure in my prostate first too.
Again, I'm talking to newbies who aren't "rewired". Most of them won't have any awareness (or little) awareness of prostate pleasure during or outside of a session.
Again the exercise in part 1 is for people to use outside of an aneros session at first. Thus "unrewired" people will need some aroused penis hardening to feel prostate, perinium and anus pleasure.
Agree complete but you seem to contradict earlier statements.
Everyone is different but If I initially concentrate on feelings in my penis I take much longer (if ever) to get to that wonderful O zone.Not saying you shouldn't try that, may work for some, but generally I found too much emphasis on the penis slows things down. My prostate heats up very fast, the penis is secondary.
Absolutely. Not saying people should concentrate on their penis completely. What I'm saying is they should get aroused. Their penis should naturally respond with some stiffness/hardening and this process of the penis slowly getting a LITTLE bit stiff (lik 10%) will help them recognise all of the "hidden" sensations in the prostate and anus as they would normally blast through the early erection phase.
Once they've noticed those sensations they can focus on those sensations as well/primarily.
They will still feel penis sensations but the penis becomes secondary to the pleasure felt elsewhere in the perinium, anus etc.
Remember I'm not saying that a full on erection is necessary. I'm just saying getting aroused is naturally going to cause some reaction in the penis and newbies in particular can use the BEGINNINGS of an erection to notice all of the sensations that happen elsewhere in the AROUSED/HORNY erection building (as opposed to forced erection building through manual stimulation, PC muscle strain etc.)
Thanks for your points as they've really helped me clarify this for people who are reading.
The way you describe the slow building erection is something I've experienced in every session. I used to post lots about it here to the point where people were telling me it was kind of 'wrong' and to ignore it.
It effected me greatly in the sense that when an erection built I would almost get angry or down, now I realise that not only is it neccesery but it's awesome too.
I even got to the point where I thought the erection happened first then I would feel prostate response, it really confused me and made my sessions just....weird.
It's good there is somone saying the truth here.
@neros, keep up the good work, your information posted will be a benefit to all. I was just trying to point out a different experience that worked for me, made more progress when I just concentrated on prostate feelings and not penis.
The re-wiring journey is different for all, what works for some may not work for others. I think it's very important that new users understand that there is no single correct way, trial and error on many different techniques will get one to understand what works for them.