OK, After 18 months i'm confused

Hi VS,

First of all, I'm pretty sure that when you experience the Super-O you will indeed, find it worth writing home (or at least here) about!

As for the guy in the video - if it makes you feel any better, I never produce that much precum in my sessions. It's just my genetics or whatever. I usually only leak out a few drops over an entire session, no matter how many Super-O's I have or how intense they are. So trust me when I say, precum is not an indicator of orgasmic pleasure.

Now, regarding your practice and where you are, I have to ask some questions in order to get a rough idea, such as:

Can you describe what pleasures you *DO* feel during a typical session?

What did your BEST session feel like?

How do you know when the Aneros is massaging your prostate? i.e. How does it feel?

Have you ever felt any pleasure in your perineum? If so, can you please describe the sensations?

Have you ever massaged your perineum with your hands and some lube? Especially with the intention of finding your sweet spot?

Do you practice any sexual techniques (KSMO, Tantra, etc)? If so, can you please describe your experiences and what, if any, effect they've had on your Aneros sessions?

While we wait to hear back on all that, I do have one idea -

I'm wondering if you might benefit from taking a little break from the Aneros and enjoying regular, lubricated perineum massages in combination with gentle masturbation. My hope is that, as you increase your sensitivity in your perineum, it will add to the pleasure you feel in your prostate. More importantly, I'm hoping you'll discover, as I have, that perineum massage can be explosively orgasmic all by itself!

Also, you may have seen the recent "Prostate Cradle," thread. I decided to go ahead and order one, and I'll report on my experiences. But I wonder if something like that might also be a nice change of pace for you. After all, it sounds like a rather convenient way to massage and stimulate the prostate without all the preparation and clean up that an aneros session requires. It might be great way supplement to your practice.

Well, that's all I have for now. I look forward to hearing back from you and for gawd's sake, don't watch that stupid video or ever compare yourself to that guy again!

😉

Pan

Pan-

Excellent questions.

VS-

I would also be curious if you have tried a kegel exercise regimen?

Just so you know, i was stuck for a real long time. In my case, it was KSMO that unstuck me. I lost my dry-O virginity that way.

anyway, if you haven't tried kegels, i would definitely recommend them as an easy thing to try. there are instructions around the web. they will both strengthen you PC muscles so you will be able to power the aneros better, and they generally increase your sensitivity.

after a couple of weeks doing them, you'll be ready to try the "kegel aerobics" i described recently, which could really boost you.

darwin

OK her goes PAn

Funny as it seems my best session was last night. After reading posts on here someone mentioned that they imagine the tip of The Aneros as an 11th finger and they concentrate on that.Well that it was I did.
First of all I laid in the standard position watching some erotica. Full rthymic breathing. Deep breath in through nose, hold then release through mouth. No contractions. While doing this for about 10 mins I can feel the MGX twitching inside with the movement of mty breathing. The feeling is very subtle but enjoyable. As though it is hitting something that makes you want to do it again.
Next I moved onto my back with my feet raised on a chair. With this position i get full movement and I concentrated on the MGX being a 11th finger. As I breathed in with a slight contraction I could feel gentle pulses against what I believe is my prostate. This time I keep concentrating on those feelings while take another breath. I kept dooing this for sometime. The feeling I got next was unexpected but totally different to what I have felt before. As I contracted I could feel the pulses but this time i got a wave of Goosebumps in my prostate/perenium area. It happened a few times in 1 go then did it again a few minutes later. Very enjoyable and with it came an erection. If anything I found the erection to be very off putting as it dispersed the feelings I was after.
After that nothing much else happened but it was a different session in that I was able to concentrate and the feelings I got were very different to before.
The only thing I didn't get this time is a feeling of my prostate swelling, which I have done in the past but not been able to replicate.

I have been trying to do The Key Sound with a little success. The trouble is my household is very busy and I never seem to get anytime to myself to practise this. I will say that I have been able to get involuntary shaking in the legs when I have been able to do a session

Talking about the sweet spot, perenium pressure. I followed B Mayfield's instructions on how to find it but to no avail. I honestly can not say that any feelings I have had have been the response of the tab on my perenium.

Hope the explantaion helps. I'm sure you need more info then just let me know

VS

Hey VS,

It sounds as though you had a good session. Making some progress. I just thought I would add here that I have never really been able to locate my sweet spot either. It is interesting how it seems so apparant in some and so hidden in others.

Have a good one.

Buster

VS-

glad to here you had a new experience.

here's another thing to try.

coupla days ago for the first time i listened to music (headphones) while using the aneros.

believe it or not, the effect was incredible (duh). i had some tunes on that i was really getting into and i somewhat forgot about the aneros and just grinded around in my recliner to the music. i was pretty quickly totally transported (into the O-zone).

the key here was distracting myself and just feeling good old fashion musical euphoria. it felt wonderful in combo w/ the aneros.

(this session was ultimately kinda freaky as it lead to chain reaction super-Os which brought me to this ongoing state of orgasmic convulsions. it was absolutely unbelievable and a kinda scary. it definitely leads me to want to warn men w/ predispositions to seizure to be cautious.)

i sometimes think that the sideline stuff like nipple play, soft palate nursing, even the breathing, serve to keep the controlling part of our brain distracted so the primitive parts can get into what's going on down there.

darwin

Hey VS,

Congratulations on having your best session so far!

I'm glad to hear you're exploring KSMO and of course, I completely understand the challenge in finding the time and privacy to practice.

I also understand that since we're all wired differently, perineum massage may not be the best route for you at this time. Although I should probably mention that when I started with the massages, at first it actually felt a little sore down there, and took about two weeks of daily massaging before I even started to notice any real pleasure in that specific area. And it was another week before I finally found my sweet spot (or maybe it found me!) and experienced orgasms from stimulating that area. So, I don't know if it's an idea that appeals to you. But my general intention was to think of new ways for you to enjoy yourself that can add to your Aneros experiences, while also giving you a break from any feelings of needing to "achieve" something.

However, I really think Darwin's post makes an excellent point in showing that the simple act of losing one's self in the enjoyment of anything, whether it's the rhythm of good music, or an arousing fantasy, etc, can serve as a wonderful distraction, just long enough to allow the Aneros to work FOR YOU.

I believe Darwin's post illustrates a very important concept - achieving results with the Aneros (in my opinion) is 90% mental, emotional, and essentially SUBCONSCIOUS. Many times, it's simply a matter of learning to "get out of the way of ourselves," and allow our bodies to use the Aneros spontaneously without our minds consciously interfering. I believe this is why so many practitioners had their first Super-O by simply inserting the Aneros and going to SLEEP! It gave their bodies a chance to work uninhibited by any efforts to consciously control the device.

This is also mirrored by the what practitioners report at the multiples.com forum. For as long as I can remember, every single KSMO practitioner that reported their experiences in the Forum, said that their first multiple orgasm caught them completely by surprise. It always seems to occur when they aren't actively seeking to have orgasms, but simply enjoying their practice session. That's exactly how it happened for me.

I think there's a similar tendency regarding the Super-O.

So maybe some more important questions I should have asked about your practice are:

During a session:

Are you having fun?

Do you feel good?

Do you feel aroused?

Is any effort involved?

Do you have specific expectations or goals in mind?

Also:

How do you feel when you think about your Aneros practice in general?

Well, I hope this is helpful. And I look forward to hearing your thoughts on all this.

Best of Luck!

Pan

(this post was edited 2007-04-17 10:54:05)

So maybe some more important questions I should have asked about your practice are:

During a session:

Are you having fun?

Do you feel good?

Do you feel aroused?

Is any effort involved?

Do you have specific expectations or goals in mind?

Also:

How do you feel when you think about your Aneros practice in general??

Well, I hope this is helpful. And I look forward to hearing your thoughts on all this.

Best of Luck!

Pan

Hi Pan/Darwin/Buster,

Thankyou for your response.

Do I have Fun?

Yes I enjoy each session. When I first started I would kjeep going and going.Maybe 2- 3 hours. Now my sessions last between 30mins - 2 hours depending on how I feel in myself but I have learnt to stop if nothing is happening

Do I feel good?

After a year of using the Aneros I got to the stage were I just couldn't be bothered to go through the whole routine.I was close to giving up until I read a post saying that if it happens it happens but the feelings are still good. So yes I have fun especially when I feel something slightly different

Do I Feel Aroused?

My body tells me that they want the Aneros. I will be in the bath or relaxing. I will get twitches and then I'll start thinking about it and a session.
When I start my session I always watch a little erotica. I never contract until at least 15 mins into session. I can tell by doing just the breathing if I'm turned on enough to carry on

Is there any effort involved?

No. I used to try to force a reaction or go on and on in the hope of getting a new sensation. I know do my breathing. I am always relaxed and when I start getting sensations I keep to the breathing to let the feelings continue just like Darwin stated

Do you have specific expectations?

I used to have. I read so many people on here achieve a Super O straight out of the box. That is very annoying and frustrating but now I just get on with it.

Not sure what you mean by the next question
How do you feel when you think about your Aneros practice in general?

Am I embarrassed by what I do? NO
Do I think it is natural? YES

If you mean do I look forward to a session then YES I DO

I must add to my session the other night.

Darwin mentioned this in last post about turning off, thinking about something else. I listen to Brainsync which I feel helps. The constant pulsing tends to make my Anus twitch. I also like nipple tweeking. If I tweek my right nipple it sends shivers in my prostate. The only trouble is with this is you tend to concentrate more.

The one think I find hard to get to grips with is relaxing enough to pass over to the next stage.
I mentioned I got goosebumps in the perinium/prostate. These were warm like shudder feelings. Only gentle but I felt like i was on a path leading to????

How on earth do you let go? If you let go how can you carry on getting the feelings. This I feel is the barrier for me

cheers

VS

Originally Posted By: virginsoldier
(this post was edited 2007-04-17 10:54:05)

The one think I find hard to get to grips with is relaxing enough to pass over to the next stage.

How on earth do you let go? If you let go how can you carry on getting the feelings. This I feel is the barrier for me

cheers

VS

Hey VS,

first I think I'd like to point out that in most of your answers to the questions I asked, you describe progress and improvements that you've made over the course of your practice.

It seems to me that you've learned a great deal, and cleared away the most common blocks to success - such as having expectations or trying to force a response.

I like to think that you've spent the past 18 months "setting the stage" for allowing the Super-O's to happen. And now it's just a matter of some fine tuning.

As for how to let go and still feel the feelings...

Well, it's been my observation that there are 2 basic approaches to achieving the Super-O - Active or Passive.

Active ways of achieving the Super-O involve the use of specific muscles, positions, and concentration on precise manipulation of the device itself.

Passives include a wide variety of alternatives such as going to sleep with the Aneros inserted, visualization (such as the 11th finger method), or simple distraction like Darwin's experience getting lost in some good music while the aneros was inserted.

Personally, I'm in the Passive category, and my method of choice is simply to relax and focus exclusively on erotic fantasy, especially including the sensations of ejaculatory orgasm. The more I focus on those sensations, the more the associated muscles and nerve pathways respond as if it were happening in real life. This process eventually triggers the same spontaneous contractions that result in Super-O's.

So for me, this is the answer to the question of how to "let go and carry on getting the feelings." I am letting go by simply relaxing and closing my eyes. And yet, by actively fantasizing about being stimulated to orgasm, I am maintaining and increasing the erotic sensations that trigger the Super-O's. So in this way, I learned to relax my body while simultaneously using my mind to carry me over into the next stage.

I think it's also important to note that although I do allow myself to enjoy spontaneous contractions as I become more and more aroused, I don't actively use them to try to make anything happen.

Another example of letting go while remaining connected to the pleasure of the moment, would be hypnosis, which involves deep relaxation, but can also be used to induce feelings of intense arousal and orgasm at the same time.

I recently started using a hypnosis program called "Super Hypnotic Orgasm" by Victoria Wizell. It's composed of 2 programs, both of which are designed to induce orgasm while in a state of relaxation. It also includes post-hypnotic suggestions to improve orgasmic response and enjoyment during any sexual activity. Perhaps you'll find it worth checking out. I know I did.

Anyway, I think the important thing here is to understand that "letting go" does not necessarily mean physical "detachment." It simply means releasing the urge to maintain control while enjoying every sensation as it surfaces within your awareness.

I think the real question is, what is the most appealing way for you personally to do that? There are many options and I'm sure with a little brainstorming, the right one will come to you.

And of course, you've always got us here to keep coming up with new ideas!

Best of Luck!

Pan