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Perhaps some of the members here already have experience with this, but I felt this would be a semi-interesting discussion. Hopefully, this can also be useful information for a few of the members here who seem to have a jealous attachment toward the orgasmic capabilities of females.

There is a phenomenon of Male Ejaculation which is close to a Female Ejaculation, rather than an ejaculation in the traditional sense.

There are several instructional DVD's in the Japanese AV market regarding this matter.

The most straight forward method to reaching the Male Version of a Female Ejaculatioon is described as follows:

- 0. Preparation:
- - - BM beforehand
- - - Drink plenty of fluids
- - - Keep lube handy
- - - - - Water based lubes work the best in reducing the friction as much as possible
- - - - - Oil based lubes create too much friction

- 1. Sufficiently arouse the male (Likely the same role as relaxation in an Aneros sense)

--2. Induce a traditional Penile Ejaculation

- 3. Immediately following ejaculation, with an EXTREMELY WELL LUBED HAND, either knead the Glans/Head of the Penis like you are rolling clay or dough into a ball (particularly the very tip of
the Glans/Head of the Penis, namely the urethral opening) using the Palm of your hand,
enveloping the entire head of the penis with your palm, OR quickly graze the tip of the Glans/Head in a horizontal fashion with the fingers OR continue to vigorously/quickly rub/stroke the Glans/Head of the Penis, focusing on the ridge and frenulum. There are many ways to stimulate the penis, but they all focus on the penis head.

** Description on guide **
- - Heavy pressure is required for the palm method, so oral stimulation is not useful here.

** Description by sex workers in Japan **
- - Light pressure with very quick motion for the grazing method.
- - Light pressure with very quick motion for the rubbing/stroking method.
- - If possible, strokes should be quicker than what you used for normal ejaculation.
- - -She says light pressure is the key, other girls who applied too much pressure did not successfully induce ejaculation. Also, stimulation needs to be non-stop. Switch hands if one hand becomes tired.
- - -Bonus: They say stimulation after the T-Orgasm must feel like torture for the male... O.O

- - - - - > There are varying descriptions of applied pressure, so you may have to find out what works for you.

- - The non-stimulating hand holds the penis firmly in place so that the penis is immobile.

** Recommendation on guide **
- - The male should also feel like he is pushing out his anus during the entire event to promote collection of fluids from the bladder (Thus the BM).

- - Note: Immediately following ejaculation, as all of you already know, the Glans/Head of the Penis is extremely sensitive. Therefore, this type of vigorous stimulation to the Glans/Head of the Penis will feel like intense suffering to the male. (^^) Perhaps not recommended for the faint of heart.

- 4. After a few minutes, you will begin to feel some dull pain as well as a suffering sensation in the Glans/Head of the Penis, along with a slight urge to urinate.

- 5. Eventually, you will feel a definite feeling like you are going to leak out urine. Continue to stimulate the Glans/Head of the Penis until you end up feeling like you are leaking.

- 6. This leaking constitues the male version of a female ejaculation. It should feel luke warm, just like wetting your bed. The clear fluid (pre-urine state?) will come out in quick squirts, like a female ejaculation, not a continuous, medium stream like urine.

A description of the flows/releases of the different types of fluids from the penis:
- Urine: Slow, steady stream
- Traditional Ejaculation: Medium, pumping pulses
- Squirting: Anywhere from medium, pumping pulses (slightly longer) like a traditional ejaculation to a full jet stream (like some female ejaculations).

Some males squirt within the first few minutes, while some males take 30 minutes or more and still do not squirt. This depends on various factors, just like a female orgasm.

Some males end up ejaculating traditionally 3 or more times before they end up squirting.

PS: The muscles in use here are the muscles responsible more for urinating, rather than ejaculating,
so trying to recreate the sensations during ejaculation is the wrong way to go.

This type of ejaculation is described as being 2-3 times more intense than the traditional counterpart.

The legs may end up shaking constantly during and after.

A traditional ejaculatory orgasm feels pleasurable during the moment of ejaculation, but the male version of the female ejaculation feels pleasurable during the build up to the ejaculation. The ejaculation itself is merely a product of the build up of pleasure, and not necessarily the means to an end.
A traditional ejaculatory orgasm is "ejaculation providing pleasure", while the male version of the female ejaculation is "pleasure providing ejaculation", or something along those lines. Basically the other way around.

Some people have developed this technique to the point where they can "switch" between a traditional ejaculation and a male version of the female ejaculation just by varying the type and location of stimulation of the penis.

It is not necessary to ejaculate beforehand, but this seems to be the most entry level method to reaching female ejaculation. The non-(ejaculate beforehand) method would be to stimulate the very tip of the Glans/Head and the urethral opening, avoiding anything that brings on a traditional ejaculation. The rest is the same as above.

This is partly a translation of someone else's guide, as well as some regurgitation of educational material.

Hopefully you guys don't "Cheat / Fake it", misinterpretting urination for squirting, which would be very easy to do here.

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Accounts of Squirting without Ejaculating Beforehand (Direct Translations):
Time: About 15 minutes
Place: Bath
Body Position: Kneeling while sitting on a bath stool
How to: After applying conditioner, lotion, or baby oil on the penis, lightly grasp the penis with your off hand so that 2/3 of the penis head is showing. Now Rub, Rub, Rub the head with your main hand.
Tip: Hold the penis with your off hand in a manner such that the main hand palm rubs against the index finger and thumb of your off hand as well as the head of the penis.
The Pleasure: While you rub the penis head, the pleasure become so great that you feel like you are going to pass out (everything becomes white in front of you), then you squirt out clear fluid, but the squirting itself is not pleasurable at all.
A completely different type of pleasure than a traditional ejaculation. Somewhat of a "frustrating, trying, and emotionally painful" sort of pleasure.

Some guides/forum posts (Japanese) for anyone who is interested:
- How to Easily Male Squirt: http://zabitann001.hp.infoseek.co.jp/newpage7-4.htm
- How to Masturbate, Male Squirting Extisted...: http://yokudou.livedoor.biz/archives/28871642.html
- Squirt like Women, Presenting Male Squirting: http://www.ura-akiba.jp/archives/2009/02/post_1897.html
- Male Squirting: http://kyouyablog.blog105.fc2.com/blog-entry-69.html

I will translate the links if there is enough interest.

Some AV's/"educational" AV's:
http://www.dmm.co.jp/mono/dvd/-/detail/=/cid=1rct062/
http://www.dmm.co.jp/monthly/sod/-/detail/=/cid=1rct00109/

You can download these AV's off of P2P programs such as WinMX, WinNY, Share, or PerfectDark which have a decent amount of Japanese users.

Male Squirting in Japanese: "男の潮吹き"

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I will continue to edit in missing information.

-Uso

Hey, please, all of this is very interesting, please could you translate more content from those pages?

I'm sure most of us will thanks to you this work!

Thank you!


   
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I tried this yesterday night and focused on my head (Before standard ejaculation, not after) and felt like I was getting somewhere but never fully "squirted". I wished I could have gone on longer but my penis was actually getting sore.

Anyone have any useful tips n going all the way?


   
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Hi all again, I have found a site where you can find some videos regarding this topic:

http://asa.tv/

Make a search with the keyword:

男の潮吹き

I hope you like them!

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So I tried this again but this time AFTER ejaculation. I used lube for masterbating (which I rarely do, like maybe a few times a year) and damn was it easy to cum this way. Anyways right after cumming I lubed up the head and went at it rubbing it as fast as I could. WOW. It's like I want to stop because it's just too much but at the same time want to keep going because of this. Well it took maybe 15 seconds before my first squirt and I had to cut it short because I was peeing all over myself (I was actually sitting in my chair not in a bath tub). So while showering I peed everything that I could out of me and then continued in the shower and each time it would take maybe 5-10 seconds to squirt again. Even when I felt my bladder had to be empty I could keep doing it.
Anyways not something that I'll do often because as intense as it is, it's still not that pleasurable. I'd rather be experiencing full body multiple orgasms instead.


   
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Mmm, I have been trying this for an entire hour and I can get no results...

i'm starting to think that is not possible for me... maybe some men are able to do this and some do not...

What do you think?

Maybe I'm doing something wrong (it's difficult to make a mistake with this 🙂

I'm not using lube, just saliva, can this be a possible cause of my failure?

Any idea will be welcome.


   
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Mmm, I have been trying this for an entire hour and I can get no results...

i'm starting to think that is not possible for me... maybe some men are able to do this and some do not...

What do you think?

Maybe I'm doing something wrong (it's difficult to make a mistake with this 🙂

I'm not using lube, just saliva, can this be a possible cause of my failure?

Any idea will be welcome.

Are you ejaculating before you try? For me I rub my head very fast with just the right amount of pressure and relax my genitalia as much as I can. Like try to do the opposite of a PC contraction. Then I feel a quick build up and SQUIRT!


   
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Weird in the preview post it's different than what actually posts. In the preview post it shows Kily's words in the quote box but it's just not wanting to post it like that


   
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Weird in the preview post it's different than what actually posts. In the preview post it shows Kily's words in the quote box but it's just not wanting to post it like that

Hi Billy, thanks for your answer, I have tried both ways.

After ejaculating I usually have lost of interest, but when I tried, I was about 5 minutes and nothing happened...

Before ejaculating, I usually get a traditional orgasm.

Maybe some mental state or relaxation would help?
Do I need to be relaxed and don't wait for anything to happen to let it "happen"?

Thanks!


   
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I have used this method on about a half a dozen occasions now since this thread was posted. To date, I have had quite a few Super O's and several very intense ejaculations as a result. Try as I might though I've never experienced the " squirting" that I've seen in these videos. Then it occurred to me, that there's really no point in going any farther anyway. You see, according to the thread author it is not the squirting that produces the sensations.... but the stimulation leading up to it!

So what is it like? Frankly, it's pretty consistent with the Super O's that I've had in the past with the exception that it takes quite a bit of work....and I mean real "work" to achieve. This route involves the use of intense and fairly unpleasant penile stimulation. So unpleasant that one wouldn't think it would trigger anything pleasant at all. The thing is for me though, I'm able to arrive at the same place without going through the discomfort, so I doubt that this will ever become something that I practice routinely. This combined with another experience that I had last month have been somewhat of a revelation to me about the nature of stimulation and orgasm. I will be posting a thread on it soon.

From all appearances the proponents of this technique seem more concerned with the "pyrotechnics" of fluid squirting out of a penis than anything else. For me, sessions are about exploring new sensations and making a spiritual connection with body and mind. When the authors of this material discuss an orgasm that is "much more powerful than a traditional orgasm" they are most likely comparing an ejaculation to a Super O... which is true. I don't see any completely new experience here but rather a new way of triggering something that I'm already familiar with. I'm not knocking this method for anybody that wants to try it. I would just submit that there are more elegant methods for getting there. In so far as fluid coming out of your penis, that's not difficult at all, drink a beer and wait a little while ....you'll see it soon enough.

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Hi all again, just to give my oppinion about this.

I don't think that the only interesting thing is the "Pirotechnic" squirting.

I believe that this has to be more with the fact that men are discovering that we are not as simple (sexually) as we thought we were.

Now we are feeling that there are many ways (like women) to give ourselves many types of pleasure. Through aneros, or through estimulating glans in order to squirt as well (like females). So, everything that give us new ways to the pleasure, it's important for us.

That is what I think.

BTW, I still haven't success with this techinque, I'll keep trying.

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Kily,

I agree with you that this method does help to expand our concept of what men are capable of, which is always a very good thing as far as I'm concerned. Again, I don't mean to be negative about it either. I just feel that there are easier ways for approaching this, ones that avoid the unpleasantness of rubbing one's glans in this manner. If you have not done so already, I would encourage you to try the Aneros!

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Hi Billy, thanks for your answer, I have tried both ways.

After ejaculating I usually have lost of interest, but when I tried, I was about 5 minutes and nothing happened...

Before ejaculating, I usually get a traditional orgasm.

Maybe some mental state or relaxation would help?
Do I need to be relaxed and don't wait for anything to happen to let it "happen"?

Thanks!

I don't think I can really help you one this one. For me I "squirt" pretty easily especially if I do this technique right after ejaculation.
The feelings leading up to the squirt are very strange to describe. For me it's almost like a tickling sensation that's almost too much to bear but somehow I can. The squirt itself really isn't much. Really just feels like peeing.

So you ejaculate when doing this?

Try using lube and after ejaculating. The lube may be the trick.


   
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I can' get it before orgasm. I literally felt like I was on the edge of squirting for 30 minutes. Tonight, I will try after orgasm.


   
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My little secret has been rediscovered.
I did this when I was 14 or 15.
Rubbing the glans until it felt I was going to faint.
then a squirt of clear liquid.
I thought I was the only one on the planet to have done this. LOL.
Thanks for the memory.


   
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Kily,

I just feel that there are easier ways for approaching this, ones that avoid the unpleasantness of rubbing one's glans in this manner. If you have not done so already, I would encourage you to try the Aneros!

BF Mayfield

This is quite true.

Compared to the Aneros experience, this "Squirting" route does introduce a bit of agony along with the added intensity.

In terms of the sensations, it may be delving into the realm of a soft S&M fetish.

Japanese mainstream culture is *heavily* into whether someone is an S or M (mindset), hard or soft, while the US is not. Therefore many of you may shy away from this sort of play.

Whether you enjoy this type of sensation or not will depend heavily on the type of person you are. From an S(giver) or M(receiver) standpoint some people may "enjoy", in the mental sense, getting this treatment from a partner.

If that is the kind of thing you are into, great.
If not, you may want to try something else, like the Aneros! ~~

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I tried the "kneading the glans" thing right after cumming from traditional masturbation but it was just too intense (a tickley type of feeling), I lasted only 2 maybe 3 seconds before I had to stop...not sure I would describe it as pleasurable.....ha ha


   
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This is quite true.

Compared to the Aneros experience, this "Squirting" route does introduce a bit of agony along with the added intensity.

In terms of the sensations, it may be delving into the realm of a soft S&M fetish.

Japanese mainstream culture is *heavily* into whether someone is an S or M (mindset), hard or soft, while the US is not. Therefore many of you may shy away from this sort of play.

Whether you enjoy this type of sensation or not will depend heavily on the type of person you are. From an S(giver) or M(receiver) standpoint some people may "enjoy", in the mental sense, getting this treatment from a partner.

If that is the kind of thing you are into, great.
If not, you may want to try something else, like the Aneros! ~~

-Uso

Hi All, I'm agree with that idea that both are you talking about, honestly, I get better sessions and better sensations using Aneros.

But I'm still interested in this kind of orgasm, it's strange and I'm very curious with it.

Usonomo, I will thank you very much if you keep posting information about this. I have tried to find it, but it's not easy, however, it seems that japan pages have many references to it.

Many many thanks and take care!
Kily


   
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woooow this seems really interesting! cant wait to try it! hehhehehe


   
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I really thought I had it yesterday but it just became a normal orgasm... I might be able to get it after I have a traditional orgasm, but that "lost interest" you know.


   
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I had a squirting experience yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised, as I wasn't even trying for one. My orgasm was a squirting orgasm, meaning I didn't have an orgasm prior to squirting. I can tell for certain it was the squirting type because I have been masturbating fairly frequently lately to the point where I have very little ejaculation with my orgasms. So, the two very long, bursting streams that flowed out of me were very different that normal semen cum. My version of this orgasm varied in two ways versus the ones described. First, mine was the initial orgasm, not a forced squirting after a traditional orgasm. This allowed me to continue to have more orgasms with direct penis stimulation. Second, it was very pleasurable! Most of the responses I've seen indicate an over sensitized cock due to post orgasm response. This in turn makes going for this phenomena very unpleasant and almost painful. I had fantastic sensations directly involving the penis for about 30 minutes. It was wonderful.

I used a very slick lotion and a little bit of WET lube once the lotion absorbed into my skin. I used the palm of my hand and rubbed my head slowly in all directions with stimulating my shaft with my fingers, which were draped over my head. I just used a nice slow pace and did whatever felt good. I was surprised that it resulted in this type of orgasm. I wasn't expecting one given all the feedback and advice on how violent almost one has to get. Anyway, just wanted to share.


   
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hmm, interesting, has anyone tried it with a fleshlight, just shallow strokes, just stimulating the head of the penis, coz that's the method right? or is there more?


   
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Some AV's/"educational" AV's:
???????????????????????? ???????????????? - ????DVD??
????M??????????? ???????????????????? - ??????????? ch

-Uso

hi again,do you know if this videos are full uploaded on torrent or direct downloader as rapidshare....?
i am searching but i dont found (i dont know japanese and i am unable to know the title of them)
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here's one vid:

FC2 Videos?Adult?

this shit amazes me. I can't seem to do it to myself- it's too intense! I'm gonna need my wife to tie me up first.

Thanks for your links, mmmniple. There's not much out there about this, is there?


   
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Hmm, the dick's made fuzzy in that Japanese video. Here's one that was in one of mmmniple's links

video2.xtube.com/watch.php?v_user_id=AphroAlex&idx=5&v=59cea-J133-&cl=VD1lZ-J133-&from=&ver=3&ccaa=1&qid=&qidx=&qnum=&preview_fl ag=


   
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hi again and thanks for the link.
They are not many info ,almost i have not found in spanish (my native language) or english.
it seems in japan is some less uncommon ,almost 2 vids :p

the author of the xtube's vid is selling a book about this,i can not comment this because i have not read it :
Machine Gun Orgasms:The Ultimate Orgasmic Experience For Men
Five Ebooks From Machine Gun Orgasms - The Ultimate Multiple Orgasmic Experience For Men Only!

i also hope found more interesting info about this,maybe someone could traslate the links posted on first page? Thanks


   
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hmm, interesting, has anyone tried it with a fleshlight, just shallow strokes, just stimulating the head of the penis, coz that's the method right?

Yes. When I masturbate normally the main focus of activity is the head of the penis. The shaft gets very little attention because it's not that sensitive. With a Fleshjack I find there is more reason to insert fully but I still usually cum by just stimulating the head. I am uncircumcised and one way I enjoy masturbation is to use a condom to hold my foreskin back whilst I stimulate just the head.

I have never noticed that I have ever ejaculated anything other than normal cum.


   
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True, I bought a STU recently to try out some exercises in MultiOrgasmic Man(Chia)...Unsuccesfully up until now 🙁 I can move the Chin Chi around my body when not engaged in sexual activity but when I am even the PC muscles and the 'cool draw'don'' t work and thanks to trying to locate the million dollar point I've lost more cum than I'd want to loose in a lifetime).
Still there are benefits with the STU compared with normal masturbation. Eventhough the head is the most sensitive, the whole penis adds to the sensation and apparantly different parts are linked to different organs for healthbenefits. Another piece of trivia in Chia's book was the inclusion of the balls in stimulation as it's meant to increase spermcount and testosteron as well as being pleasant.

Also since I've started using my fleshlight it's like my Aneros sessions have improved, which is contrary to what I was expecting

Anyways I tried it a few days ago as well just stimulating the head, but I just ejaculated, what I didn't realise then when I wrote the question was that you're meant to continue stimulation kneading the head/frenelum(see the first post of this topic)or other techniques, so there's obviously more to it than just stimulating the whole head. It's perhaps an obvious thing if youre circumcised, it just seemed like that was all the boy in the video was doing to squirt.


   
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hi.I also bought chia's book and i love it.The only part i dont like is millon dolar point.I prefer use other point called "ping-i" i saw on other books.If you are interest on it i can upload a file with a full description about this.

a question what is "STU"?


   
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Great, show us your 'ping-i' 😉
STU= The Stamina Training Unit.


   
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