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 Tbaz
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Hello all,

I recently got my Aneros on last Thursday, and have used it 3 times so far. I wanted to describe a bit about what I've felt so far, and if I'm making any extremely stupid mistakes - and then I had a few questions about the rewiring process, and how often one should use it.

The first time I used it, I didn't feel anything (not unexpected really, and not frustrated). I did finish off and the cum was a lot more than I've had for awhile.

The second time I used it, I spent a *lot* of time to try it (3+ hours, kinda split up a bit). I've had one time during the time where I got an erection within 10 seconds or so, a bit of tingling and back down again. I also could feel the area being massaged "down there", and it felt quite good. Going from the wiki, I'm climbing the ladder pretty well.

The third time, I used the information from the second time and found that lying on my back with a pillow on my lower back was the best. I couldn't go near as long as I did the 2nd time (not due to time, but due to penile stimulation ejaculation without actually climaxing - was kinda odd). I didn't quite feel the same tingle, although I did have a few spasms on the upper portion of my legs.

Given kinda what I mentioned so far, I was curious of a few things.
- Am I doing this too much? I kinda worry because is this like masturbation that if you do it too much that it's more "painful", or the stimulation just isn't there? I'm thinking of waiting until Wednesday to try again, but the weekend affords the opportunity to spend a few hours working on this, so I'd rather try again this evening even.
- With the rewiring process - penile stimulation is all I know, which may sound odd perhaps, but it's really hard when looking at erotica to not stimulate the area. The wiki mentioned to not stimulate the area at all, well until way further into the exercise. How did you rewire yourself in this area?
- One of the problems I had last night is that I had to pee a few times, stopping what I'm doing and going pee is a pain. Is it harmful to walk with the aneros in to urinate and return again? The problem for me in this area is I have to "go" more often than others mostly do. I have a smaller bladder perhaps, not sure. I know the feeling of peeing is common, and the first time I attributed it to the newness but the second night I went and I actually had to pee.
- Another question I had was about how the instructions are laid out. Basically, from reading it you:
1. Watch some erotica or get horny
2. Wait to soften, then insert and relax fully.

The part of the problem I'm having with this is the mood is pretty broken when relaxing for me at least - also when relaxing, besides deep breathing, what could one do? I read some listen to music, some watch porn. Should this happen after the 20 minutes of relaxing, then after the exercises? Which option is really best? I know this is up to interpretation - for myself, I get bored pretty quick. Unfortunately watching TV, reading, or whatever, probably won't help me orgasm (found that out the 2nd night). Opinions on activities for here would be really helpful.

Sorry for the long post..there are a lot of questions I have as you can tell. The most important ones are about the frequency of use. I don't want to "over-do" it, but I am pretty happy with the feeling in general even though I don't climax so I don't mind the feeling. I just don't want to hurt the prostate, or diminish my ability to achieve results because I use it too much. This is really the most important thing I'd appreciate help with.

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Tbaz-

here are some quick answers. hope they are helpful.

darwin

Hello all,

Given kinda what I mentioned so far, I was curious of a few things.
- Am I doing this too much? I kinda worry because is this like masturbation that if you do it too much that it's more "painful", or the stimulation just isn't there? I'm thinking of waiting until Wednesday to try again, but the weekend affords the opportunity to spend a few hours working on this, so I'd rather try again this evening even.

personally, i'd recommend going easy at first. it takes time in between sessions for your body to integrate the new neurological stimuli.

- With the rewiring process - penile stimulation is all I know, which may sound odd perhaps, but it's really hard when looking at erotica to not stimulate the area. The wiki mentioned to not stimulate the area at all, well until way further into the exercise. How did you rewire yourself in this area?

use erotica to get in the mood, but then leave it aside for the rest of the session. instead concentrate on your body and the subtle new feelings

- One of the problems I had last night is that I had to pee a few times, stopping what I'm doing and going pee is a pain. Is it harmful to walk with the aneros in to urinate and return again? The problem for me in this area is I have to "go" more often than others mostly do. I have a smaller bladder perhaps, not sure. I know the feeling of peeing is common, and the first time I attributed it to the newness but the second night I went and I actually had to pee.

the "need to pee feeling" from prostate stimulation is a little different than really needing to pee. it is more like a need to pre-cum. if you need to pee, then definitely pee. a full bladder is a distraction. i personally don't like walking around w/ the aneros as i feel it can cause a little internal irritation, but others might not have that problem.

your bladder is not smaller than normal. frequent peeing can be from a bunch of minor urological conditions, including BPH (enlarged prostate), detrusor overactivity or bladder neck dysfunction. there are various extremely effective medications, as well as more "natural" approaches, that can really help, if it gets to that level. in some cases, the earlier you attend to it, the easier it is to manage, so a trip to your local friendly urologist might not be the worst idea. if it is BPH the aneros may well help, as that it was originally designed for.

if you are finding you need to pee a lot during aneros use, you could keep some kind of bottle or whatever to pee into near your bed, to save the trip to the bathroom.

- Another question I had was about how the instructions are laid out. Basically, from reading it you:
1. Watch some erotica or get horny
2. Wait to soften, then insert and relax fully.

The part of the problem I'm having with this is the mood is pretty broken when relaxing for me at least - also when relaxing, besides deep breathing, what could one do? I read some listen to music, some watch porn. Should this happen after the 20 minutes of relaxing, then after the exercises? Which option is really best? I know this is up to interpretation - for myself, I get bored pretty quick. Unfortunately watching TV, reading, or whatever, probably won't help me orgasm (found that out the 2nd night). Opinions on activities for here would be really helpful.

there are two roads: sexual frenzy or relaxed introspection. both work and are even good to alternate, as they offer different advantages. as long as you can keep your hands off your weenie, the erotica is ok. the whole idea of the aneros is to discover the wealth of erogenous possibilities your body offers besides just your penis.



   
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 Tbaz
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Thanks darwin for the help,

A lot of what you posted makes sense and really helped answer some of these questions I had.

For the small bladder, I think a lot of it comes down to that I am a big tea drinker - so lots of water and tea I drink 🙂 You're right, it could be a medical condition, if it got really bad (I "go" about once an hour or so, usually more in the afternoon after a morning of drinking stuff).

The new neurological sensations that you mentioned explain why I feel a "tingle" sensation around my prostate area right now. Feels good actually, just a little tingle.



   
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(one thing to ask yourself: what is the volume like each time you pee? i don't know what the "normal" amount is. but, the conditions i mentioned would feature low volume per pee. -darwin)



   
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rumel
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Hi Tbaz,

Welcome to the Forum,

Darwin gave you some excellent advice and what I have to say below should be interpreted to be in accord with his advice.

I’ll give you my opinionated answers to your questions, but please understand there are no real “rules” when it concerns learning to use these wonderful little devices.
“Am I doing this too much?” – I believe you should give yourself at least 1-2 days break between sessions and to limit your early sessions to 1-1½ hours max. Too much stimulation to an area, actually desensitizes it and the body needs recovery and time to assimilate the learning.
Many men use the Aneros as an enhancement tool for traditional masturbation, which is fine if that is your desire. However, if your goal is to achieve a Super-O, then I believe you need to divorce yourself from penile stimulation to more quickly establish the “rewiring” necessary to generate Super-O’s. Once you have the ability to have a Super-O then penile stimulation can be reintroduced.
Before you begin any session, I recommend you drain your bladder so when the signal normally associated with urination occurs you know it is from your Aneros massaging the prostate.
One of the keys leading to a Super-O is a heightened arousal state. Any means which facilitates your arousal can be employed (except penile stimulation), those avenues may be visual, written, olfactory or audio erotica, your own fantasies, self or partner touching of erogenous zones, etc. all can be aides to increasing arousal. Whether you remain flaccid or become erect does not seem to matter.
Relaxation is important to calm yourself to the point of being able to focus on the initial very subtle sensations that the massager will invoke from your prostate, this is almost a meditative state but with high levels of mental arousal and desire for sensual release. Muscle tension in other body parts can sometimes be a distraction.
A prostate based orgasm is a different type of orgasm from a traditional penile based O, you need to do some re-learning and re-programming of thought processes (the “rewiring”) to allow yourself to experience this different orgasm. You need to understand that you can not force this type of orgasm to occur like you can a penile orgasm.
This learning process should be fun, enjoyable and unhurried in the journey as you learn many things about your body and psyche you may not have been aware of before.



   
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 Tbaz
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Thank you very much for the help and all.

The problem with the aneros at this point is that it's way too addicting for me to stay away. Today..again, for about 2 hours. During that time, I reached the same pleasure that I normally have while doing penile stimulation (not quite orgasm, but lets just say it felt really really good). I've tried a few different positions today - on my stomach a bit, on my side like the directions - but nothing compares to just lying on my back.

I had to get up and urinate twice, but walking with the aneros wasn't uncomfortable to me in the slightest.

Not sure totally, I thought my reservations for using this device would have been a lot more than they are. I'm *really* enjoying the feeling so far of it - even though I don't think I quite got over the feeling from the normal penile orgasm.

The milestones are pretty interesting in that I've been all over them so far. Involuntary muscle twitching (all over the body lately, especially if watching some erotica during the session [tried it a bit today]), and the "long stroke" - which I wouldn't count as totally "fun" quite yet.

One really odd feeling I'm not so sure about yet. There's a small "itch" area kinda, I mean..a tingle, maybe, near the prostate with the aneros in. Feels fantastic really. During the long-stoke (and i can't really control this), the feeling of the prostate goes almost away. All I can feel is the aneros going in and out for the most part. I've been trying the tantra breathing, which seems to work extremely well..maybe I need to force myself to hold still 🙂

I will say one thing - this thing is fantastic, and addicting. I want to do more tonight....really bad, actually.



   
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rumel
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Tbaz,

My sympathies to you friend, Mistress Aneros has already got you hooked, hasn’t she? You’ve become addicted like so many of us, as she starts to re-write your neural code, the “rewiring” is upon you and now you're powerless to prevent the sweet seduction of her siren call. She’s planted the “itch” that is so difficult to scratch.
Well, if one must succumb to an addiction, at least this one is manageable. You may want to read about some aspects of this in the "Health Issues" section of the WIKI, see - http://wiki.malegspot.com/index.php?title=Health_Issues#Your_Psyche for more information.



   
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 Tbaz
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Thanks for the link.

I definitely decided, after having the entire night not dedicated to what I should have been doing, that I'm going to have to set aside specific times to use this thing - say twice a week. As the wiki mentions, the time lapse is insane. An hour goes by almost a snap of the fingers for me right now. It's really unfortunate because I do lead a very busy life, and would like to use this more often.

haha..well, organization I guess is kinda key for me. Was a very fun weekend though.



   
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i am having issues also, i cant seem to get the involuntary twitching and contractions to begin, so im not geting any of this warm tingling etc stimulation through my penis and rest of my body, i follow the instructions step by step but i really want this to work! i haven't ever had an orgasm by anyone else (masturbating me, oral, intercourse) nothing. dr. says it's probably sexual anxiety. but im trying everything i can to be able to achieve the same level or orgasm my boyfriend has when i hit his prostate, he can barely contain himself and then his orgasm is so explosive he almost passes out. help, 8 years of this bullshit of never climaxing (by someone else) sucks so much



   
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 Tbaz
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tjh,

I wanted to mention something that *really* worked for me. Basically I started getting results early - but what really helped me feel this more was:

1. Dropping all expectations. Easier said than done, but I now do other things while the aneros is in. If I feel something great, I just stop what I was doing and enjoy it. Kinda against the directions of concentrating on the aneros - but I think it's more effective for me because it gives me the opportunity to feel more. I also leave each session thinking "that was fun", regardless of what I feel and don't.

2. Really try not to push it. Something that really worked for me was to not use the sphincter muscles in any way - and really concentrate on *not* letting the muscles move. I found that really the muscles there longed to move the aneros after a bit - which a nice harder flex and then relaxing increased the sensitivity a whole lot. This goes with #1 - gotta be patient, very very very patient - and the more you try to go to it - the worse off it'll be.

3. Try different positions. I tried the ones the instructions came with...lying on my side with my leg up - and yeah, that sucked. I hated that position with the upmost hatred. I felt nothing at all, and actually was a bit painful in that area. I also tried lying on my stomach. Not too bad, but still not for me. I tried lying on my side with both legs up to my chest. That's better than the instructions. The one that worked for me the best? Lying on my back with a pillow under my tail. I like this position better because it's the most relaxing for me - and allows me to forget what I'm actually trying to accomplish. The relaxation I'm finding is key..and most stuff happens in this pose.

I've begun to have orgasms to the point that I'm really squirming on the bed - no climax yet, though. Took a little under a week to get where I'm at, but I sunk at least 10-15 hours in this so far. Probably 6 of those hours was doing something else (reading, watching TV, studying, whatever). You gotta enjoy the journey too, don't look to the end...enjoy each step, your pleasure will increase I'm sure doing that.

I hope that helps, and gives a bit of what is working for me at this point. I have a lot to grow yet, but that's where I'm at.

Edit: one last thing I wanted to really reinforce. I didn't start to feel anything until I stopped looking to the end. Rereading this I don't think I made that clear enough. If you drop the expectation of the Super-O, this device is fun every time you use it. In fact, right after being on the computer a bit more I plan to head to bed to read with this in again 🙂



   
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 Tbaz
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Well...an update I guess. Not sure what the heck happened.

This evening, was trying it again, and it came to a point where I've never had a feeling quite like this. Every muscle in my body was tense - and I *never* makes a nose during penile orgasm - was making involuntary noises..way too loud too. Scraping at the bed and so on....

I don't know what to say. This is definitely a new level. Super-O? Dunno...definitely an orgasm that I've never had before. Even though penile feelings were there in great detail, for the first time I focused on the aneros 100%. I had about 3 of them in a row, with a bit of a break inbetween. I couldn't stop..as hard as that is to admit saying, I had to finish myself off - not because it felt better than what I was experiencing (it amplified what I was experiencing, but definitely wasn't near as good by itself), but to get myself to stop. I have a bit of a headache now..hit my head too many times on the headboard.

Amazing is all I can say, I'm really at a loss for words on really describing the intense pleasure of this.



   
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Tbaz,

Congrats!! I believe you just had a Super-O!!

I never made any noise before using the Aneroses, now I yell, scream, and wimper.
I often have to use a towel, or pillow so the neighbors dont think something bad is happening in the house. 😀
As others have said, this is very addicting, but you will learn to manage it i'm sure.

You also gave tjh4904 some great advice. What you have said is right on, and it is the thing that most new people just do not do.

tjh4904, use the advice from all the experts here, plus what Tbaz just recommended, Do not get frustrated, as that will lead to not getting to where you want to be...



   
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