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After 4 sessions of nothing I decide to have one today and immediately I am feeling amazing things with aneros inserted. Ok so the dry spell is over, finally, I then find I get so aroused from my prostate being massaged that I get to a point where I feel I am going to orgasm and also bring the house down around me, but once again it never developed into such a thing.

I then alternated my techniques and got up to the point of orgasm again and again, amazing feelings but nothing dry o wise. I noticed my legs were quaking and trembling differently, really nice. I also noticed a fluttering in my prostate and muscles morso than normal.

I found that I don't need to go above a 10% contraction anymore! I just do nothing! as well as maybe a few micro movements or clench until I get the warmth back and then do nothing. A few (lovely) hours pass of this happening.

I then decide to assume the doggy position on the couch and get so close to orgasm that I was writhing ready to take it, I also felt an amazing Buzzing in my ass, prostate and penis, wasn't sure if this was a dry o, but loved whatever it was. Also got a rising waves of 'fizzing' in m? ass, legs, and generally in my body each starting from prostate and radiating outwards through entire body. Had 4 of these but not orgasmic, just very nice.

There was an Electricity through my whole body and a 'warmth' through the entire session. I had to stop as it just stopped working but even now I feel an echo of the warmth and buzzing in my dick and prostate.

I can say that I loved this session, not because I felt all those awesome things but because I didn't get a part of it that was boring or where I felt nothing. I didn't orgasm but I don't feel frustrated either. Best 3 hours ever.

I'm not asking any questions, for once, just sharing 🙂

*edit* wanted to share this as well. I had a session the other day, not great but had some nice feelings and a build up of sorts, toward the end I 'pissed' out precum or something like it, really weak orgasm though. Prostate was still awake and once I again I was left (as usual) needing an orgasm badly, so I asked my fiancé to give me a blowjob, she did so, I had lots of leg trembling and prostate 'feelings' and when I came.... It was the best orgasm I've ever had in my life, it lasted twice as long as normal, and was twice as intense. The after glow in my prostate was amazing for 20 mins afterwards, just amazing.


   
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But I gotta know -what device are you using?


   
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Sgx, all the others do nothing for me (at the moment)


   
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That's awesome inhope !

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Cheers, felt vindicated today haha! Though I still have a ways to go, hereeeee dry-o *whisltes*


   
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@inhope, good to hear!!! :-bd


   
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Another observation: the intense heat and ever so slight discomfort wasn't present in this session, it all felt really lovely. Though I'm now unable to sleep because I'm extremely aroused!


   
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@inhope --- Congratulations! All the best to you! All things in their own time!

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@inhope,Let us hope that this is the breakthrough that you have been so desperately seeking.

Just enjoy it for what it is and accept the next breakthrough whenever that may happen.

Good Luck!


   
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From what I read I think you had some miniOs (or any other type) but didnt recognise them.

Also you keep talking of close to orgasm, and it always feels wrong. There is no such thing to me. If you are aroused and relaxed enough an orgasm comes or sometimes it doesn't. But one doesnt get close to happening. It comes unnannonced. Often starts so small it is barely noticeable but still hardly stoppable anyway. But it might be a small one (that barely registers) or even nothing comes or something totally different. We can enjoy it all the same. Let's be gourmets.


   
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if it was a mini-O in some way it lasted for maybe 20 mins, but I'm sure I've not properly orgasmed, this lasted like 20 mins and though awesome it wasn't as intense as an orgasm? So yes, a single mini o that lasted 20 mins perhaps? I seem to get lots of the aneros wiki checklist happening yet no actual dry o.

The edge I feel is so intense it is like the build up to a volcanic eruption but it fades quick then I can return to this point a few times. This cannot be orgasm it doesn't teeter over it just stops, that's says i am close to orgasm, I even get faster heart rate etc, it feels nice though and I'm enjoying that, but yeah I think there is an edge for some people, it's different for everyone right?


   
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I don't think miniOs for 20min. If it is like me they don't last long. But one isolated or more would be my guess from what you wrote. See, miniOs dont rock your world, they are much less intense than an ejaculatory orgasm (and don't feel the same anyway).

To me buildup to volcanic eruption sounds nothing like the beginings of a superO, seems lmore like the illusion created by excessive tension. And anyway from my experience when you feel the beginings of a superO it is already started.


   
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probably going to get told off for asking this but here goes:

Well ok so it wasn't a mini o or a dry o, so what was it? it was like an orgasm in the sense of a 'build up' lovely full body feelings, but no orgasm, not even a mini one. how can i be that turned on, that aroused.. that ready to go, prostate swelling, tingling everywhere, cock feeling unbelievable warm fizzing sensations and warmth, feelings like i am going to go out of my mind then NOT result in orgasm, even a mini one?

Also i did no tensing, in the sense that if i did it was very, very VERY subtle. During this phase ^^ i wasn't tensing at all just 'do nothing'

I'm happy not to label it and just enjoy it, as long as it comes back again of course! though i would like one day to be able to label an orgasm, not question what I'm feeling but to definitely know I've had one.


   
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I think I had the same thing many times earlier on (not so much now). Never ended with anything. I am now pretty certain this is not a buildup to anything. It is just tension, even if you think you were not tensed in the sense of tensed PC muscle. First PC muscle always have a minimum tension cause there role (holding the weight of guts inside) makes it mandatory, then there is involuntary tension, then there are all the other muscles, some of which don't even have nerves for feedback (like intestine walls muscles). If I am not tensed these buildups to a plateau never happen.

To me they were the result of my confusion with penile orgasms and about what orgasms really are. Read and try Mantak Chia's method to un-wire yourself from this ejaculation=orgasm trap, by experiencing non ejaculatory orgasms... You may then recognize you actually had some already, or had them building but stopped them.

Don't be confused by the videos and some tales of very graphic orgasms. The genuine one often happen in total immobility where sensations are easier to identify and action not hinderd. It is much more subtle.


   
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Interested @cancan got a link?


   
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To what?


   
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"Mantak chias method"


   
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The Multi-Orgasmic Man - Mantak Chia
http://www.amazon.fr/The-Multi-Orgasmic-Man-Sexual-Secrets/dp/0062513362


   
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Good to hear you're back from the dry spell so fast. And, adapting more to the DN approach.


   
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Had another session this eve, a late one! Will return to that in a second first something interesting... Today while driving I had a lengthy a less session (something I'm not used to doing, not even got my aneros sessions nailed yet!) seems I had no choice!

I tensed a little and had had waves of pressure, some hard erections too, almost as good as my aneros sessions are. Anyway back to this evening...

Session was like the other more or less but I've noticed two things I would like to understand or perhaps overcome? First is, when I get aroused from the aneors doing it's thing my cock gets super erect (super e) when it's fully erect that is when, and only when, I seem to get the prostate pleasure. (That's fine) but when it's fully 'up' the micro contractions I do no longer works because things become very tense inside my ass/penis (not intentional tense just the way muscles go when your stiff!)

Perhaps this will be less of an issue in the future? Or perhaps I may try a 10% holding base level contraction instead of my smaller micro ones when my penis goes hard, the micro contractions for me though generate sensation.

Secondly I found something interesting, when there was a lull In the session if I masturbated for a few seconds it wakes up the prostate again! Then I let go and carry on, pretty cool.

I ended the session looking at sexy pics of naked women, this got me to a level of pleasure in my prostate that was totally amazing, even had shivers of orgasm but again I feel that 'edge' that I know I shouldn't be looking for, and probably doesn't exist. All I know is when I'm at the height of arousal that's when I feel close to orgasm.

May try a totally do nothing approach for next session.


   
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One other thing; I'm worried about leaving a device in overnight. I've done this several times in the past however now that I'm more rewired than i was i don't want to put a device in and then my body get 'used to it' so that if i feel nothing when i wake up i then have an aneros session a few days later and i get no response because its not as 'new' a thing being introduced to the prostate, if you get me?


   
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Four things :

- your involuntary tensions while superE (as you call it) are to be considered as tensions all the same, they are unwanted. This is precisely when it is harder to relax that you should relax the more. Yeah, you'd wonder how this is possible. But it is. You can try breathing technique, mental technique, surprise technique, emotional technique... Whatever works. Keep trying.

- now this for me and I don't know if you are the same, but who knows. The superE usually happens during an orgasm not before. Orgasms to me start very very mild and build gradually, totally unlike an ejaculatory orgasm where they shoot all of sudden. Let's say my miniOs (all the other are more or less related to this) are more like slow strong waves (tsunamis? well that strong but kind of the idea) and the ejaculatory orgasms are more like explosion. Also the miniO are not called mini for nothing, they can be some mild you wonder if you had them or not. Now if I don't leave the miniO wash over me, i might get the barely registrable start (most of the time overlooked) then not the registrable orgasm (because i didnt let it free) but still the superE. On the other hand, leaving it be, the superE is at the peak of the miniO.

- to me the miniOs are the only "legit" way of building towards higher states and SuperO. It builds in steps, these steps are solid, you don't get what I had before in plateau effect, where relaxing would get you back to zero. Relaxing only gets you higher and if miniO to the next step or back to the step you were already on but no lower. So you stay wholly "energized".

- what you describe as "shivers of orgasm" is a sign you indeed had a miniO, however mild or incomplete it might perhaps be. To me these shivers are the miniO. Sometimes it is not shivers, all are different.


   
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Great Cancan

- Shivers of orgasm: i only experienced those for a few seconds, once. not sure how to repeat them.

- The super E however unwanted it is, is there weather i am as relaxed as you can be or not. The second i get that prostate contact, either through very mild contraction (i never go above 10% ever in a session now) or 'just doing nothing' the nerves from that prostate contact produces a rock hard erection. I am not even aware of my dick in my sessions most of the time except when i perhaps have a twitch and i noticed by gravity or some such that its super stiff. The feelings i have inside my dick at times when it is super erect are amazing, almost like an orgasm happening. I oft wondered if it was me doing something wrong in some way, because I'm expecting a release from that area (my body doesn't know any different as i have never dry o'd)

- the tensions are not involuntary, though when at the height of arousal i get involunatires going, when I'm not i don't get them at all. Tension is the wrong word, its more like this: because the blood is filling my dick and making it super stiff, this then produces skin tension on the outside, brings the aneros 'in more' toward the prostate, producing lots of pleasure and an even more stiff dick. its not unpleasant. Its actually close to an orgasm I'm feeling, so my body expects it. i don't feel close to anything orgasmic without my dick being hard. Except when I'm sitting or on all fours, i have a half erection but if i then micro contract i get these little slivers of 'orgasm feelings'

- these 'slivers', i get when i contract to 5-10% then immediately release. If i then hold it at 10% boom my dick is stinging with bigness, in my mind i am relaxed and focusing on the prostate, but there he is! trying to steal the show. The thing is; I'm sure if i could to the 5-10% micro contractions, plus a holding one at 10% i could get more sensation going, but when my dick gets stiff i cannot contract any more, there is too much swelling/tension everywhere inside there so the best i can do is a 10% holding contraction. The feelings then usually then fades, along with my erection.

- mini-os i need to master because if they are the foundation then i need it! but knowing what to look for is becoming tough.


   
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Your body expecting the orgasm is the effect of your muscle memory of traditional orgasms. The brain is confused here (and wrong). This should be no more once rewired.

Work on looking for the shivers instead. The miniOs you will get better if you try to prolong the shivers and let your body breath through it. The whole body produces the deep breath, not the mind. This will make it longer, deeper and more whole bodied.

You can picture the shivers do the breathing and also do the relaxing. Feel like every part of the body they go through they reverse even the most imperceptible of tensions (don't ever believe you are fully relaxed, this just doesn't exist). For a moment I used to see it as a reverse of polarity of my skin (but the image works no more). The common image that often works for me is "falling backwards". Let the shivers take you down.

Also don't "lock" the pleasure in your pelvic area. You must gradually fill the body with it (yes it takes longer). Otherwise it recedes too easily.

Doing wrong will intentionally get you up, then fade down, then up then fade down, again and again... with the bottom always so low. Doing correctly will unintentionally get you up, then fade in between, then up again, then fade in between, again and again... with the bottom rising all the time.


   
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Too much focus on your dick! try @beegee6 method - https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/15900/chastity-experiment-started-


   
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There is no focus on my dick, maybe when i masturbated it to get feeling back yes but 9/10 sessions i am not even aware of my dick as i say until something like when i move about a bit reminds me its there, but even then only for a second or two. Whatever is happening is subconscious, my prorate gets stimulated, my dick gets hard, even when my thoughts are clear and excited about prostate pleasure.

I had another session today. Oh my god. Epic. i felt instant pleasure, like the verge of orgasm for over an hour, small contractions, do nothing, all worked and it was amazing. However no orgasm, no explosion as one person wrote, just a feeling of lovely pleasure that lasted for the length of the session.

Then i went to work. Came home in the car, had the most intense a less session I've ever had, it was as good as the aneros session (every time i sit down lately i get it, wether i want it or not)

How can i be feeling such amazing feelings that are just awesome (warm, buzzing, surging, orgasmic-yet-not) without an orgasm? if a dry o is bigger than what I'm feeling i won't be able to cope! seriously i will make me cry like a little bitch! let alone what a super o must be like!!

Im even having a chair -aless session now, i have NO control over it, it started by itself and is getting bigger and bigger and more intense and more intense by the minute. pants on, not thinking of sex, dick away not in sight etc

I also found myself talking to myself in my sessions, saying weird things like "oh fuck" and "this feels amazing!!"

Pushing the aneros out in session is my preferred way of using it now, it feels amazing. i not unhappy where i am, very happy indeed!! just would be good to know what I'm aiming for (which means experiencing it beforehand) i don't know how this is meant to feel when it comes (if it comes) i don't know what I'm experiencing now but its great!


   
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Dry Os are not necessarily big. They can be, or not. They just differ from miniOs by having the involuntary pumping effect.

Really from what you say you either have orgasms (and don't call them that) or are unintentionally refraining which would be cured by relaxing more.

Anyway... enjoy!


   
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When you said 'involuntary pumping effect' I've not ever had that, so its not orgasms. The feelings i get last all session as well, not heard of a dry-o lasting for an hour (or two), have you?

I am super relaxed in my sessions, trust me 🙂


there is no 'peak' or release, or a difference in my pleasure i experience its just constant, no pumping or throbbing etc just the same base level orgasmic (can't say this the right word) feeling. Its hard to label.


The thing is at times it is more intense, i just assumed though that all this is just what everyone else goes through, its just 'nice feelings' ? or have i been orgasming? if so .... I'm a little disspointed, its not as good as a normal traditional 'gasm. I will try relaxed more though I'm pretty relaxed as it currently is.


I would love to know what a super O is like, if its more intense than where i am then i just know i will collapse under the feelings!


   
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You'd better get used to that disappointing idea. Cause if you had superTs most superOs pale in comparison in terms of intensity (but they are so sweet and so much longer). But as you progress they might take you higher and higher as you chain them (if you keep stepping up at each one). So try to have an open mind about this, otherwise no luck getting further.

No throbbing means no dryOs. Still could be miniOs or analOs (though your description doesn't fit analO to me)..

A dryO lasting for an hour, of course why not. I guess you would call it superO then. Many had long ones before, even longer than that.

You say you are super relaxed, and to trust you on that... As i said before, fully relaxed doesn't exist. So i trust you think you are, but trust me, you are not. Just one thing to keep in mind: the whole body is connected so to relax a part of the body as much as possible you'd want to relax all other parts too. There is always a lot of work on that, notably the muscles hate or impossible to feel.

Peak and release are concepts of the traditional ejaculatory orgasm. No such thing in the other Os I know (for now only mini, dry, super and anal).


   
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I don't like how some people here talk like things are fact, especially on such a subjective topic (i don't mean disrespect cancan, but it seems like labelling something sometimes is wrong, i am guilty of it as well)

I understand a super O is different and less intense, or whatever....but then i read again and again those people that experience super-o's that makes them SCREAM or cry with pleasure (most threads state they are more powerful than traditional o). This does not sound like 'less intense' to me. So labelling here is again not accurate.

So you're saying no throbbing means I'm not having dry-o's? ok, good. (for now, something i am working toward then) what is an anal-o? a mini o, to me was recognisable as an orgasm, surely? what I'm getting here is constant lovely warm, buzzing, some involuntary movement and 'peaks' of pleasure that are awesome but last seconds.

I think i am fully relaxed, i have calming exercises that work to a brilliant level, binaural tools as well i sometimes use.

No peaks you say? then I'm experiencing something no documented here, something new. I get big peaks (and tbh dude I've read others here say they peak too, one guy saying it build up and up and up and then boom orgasm super o, identifiable and "i couldn't believe i could cum that hard") where it feels like i cannot take it anymore, the pleasure is just amazing, then it drops, then i can peak it again, almost at will at times. Again labelling or saying no such thing exists, i think, may not be true or accurate. I guess its why when I'm seeking answers its hard to get them, because its different.

I appreciate your replies, i will try to get more relaxed and try to focus on release, letting go, (pushing out) and see where i get. So far though, I'm in constant pleasure which I'm happy not to label as anything other than that.


   
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