Milking the prostate

OneEyedWillie,
While the term prostate "massage” and prostate "milking” are often used interchangeably, I believe there is a distinct difference we can identify. Prostate “massage” is the act of stimulating/manipulating the prostate gland for pleasure or medical purposes, it may or may not lead to release of fluids or cause an orgasm. Prostate “milking” is the release of fluids as a direct result of prostate “massage”. The Aneros devices are prostate "massagers”, they may or may not be used as “milking” devices depending on the individuals involved.

Self “milking” with the Aneros via ‘hands free’ manipulation is difficult as one usually needs to be very relaxed for the ejaculatory ducts to open and allow the fluids to flow out of the prostate. The stronger, more vigorous, muscular contractions needed to effectively move the massager create a level of tension which is antithetical to the relaxation of the gland ducts. It is possible to train the various muscle groups to simultaneously relax and contract to accomplish a “milking” but it will take practice. It is unnecessary to employ strong muscle contractions with your Aneros use as a “massager” to generate orgasmic feelings, hence you can employ it for many hours without triggering a “milking” response.

'Milking' your prostate of seminal fluids can be learned. You can read a short paragraph about Prostate Milking in the “Your Body” chapter of the Aneros WIKI. You can read a longer treatise on prostate milking technique and issues from Lady Lubyanka. There is also a well written blog by Andr. titled HOW TO MILK A BULL which gives step by step descriptions of the process.

My own experience has revealed the conditions need to be 'right' to accomplish a true "milking" using your Aneros and without using your hand to manipulate the massager. Generally, you need to be highly aroused, your prostate needs to be full and engorged due to arousal (an erect penis from edging is helpful but not mandatory). You should be on the high excitement plateau just before reaching the PONR (Point of No Return), then using your sphincter and PC muscles start performing very strong, rhythmic, slow paced contractions with total relaxation between contractions. It is important to maintain your arousal level, through penile stimulation if necessary, but don't take yourself to the point of ejaculatory inevitability (PONR). This may take a long time and be somewhat strenuous but you will eventually get the ejaculatory ducts to open and the drip, drip, drip of prostatic fluid. The process may not yield much fluid nor be intensely pleasurable in relationship to the amount of energy expended, it can be done, but Aneros devices (regardless of model or size) may not be the best tools for this particular activity. The best tool I've found for performing a real self "milking" is the Njoy 'Pure Wand'. I suspect having a professional masseuse do this would be much more pleasant as you could really just relax into the pleasurable release to be had.
Good Vibes to You !

Rumel, thanks for the detailed explanation! You confirmed most of what I thought about the idea and process of milking.

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@didymus
The larger end stimulates the prostate more, because of its size. It is also not a hands free toy.

didymus,

Yes, you are correct, the 'Pure Wand' does require manual manipulation. As such it is a decidedly different experience from using an Aneros for prostate stimulation.
Good Vibes to You !

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fun, fun http://prostatemilking.tumblr.com/

Some years ago (pre-Aneros), I learned how to have non-ejaculatory multiple orgasms (books have been written about various techniques for ages). One time, while in the shower after a dry multi-o session, I decided to masturbate a little in the traditional manner, but did so very slowly, just to see how much I could prolong the gentle pleasurable feelings. By paying close attention to all sensations and particularly focusing on relaxing everything in my abdomen, I found I could precisely control my arousal level and keep it relatively low and steady for an extended time. Then, at one point, it felt as if some valve opened, and semen just started pouring out, gradually and steadily, without any contractions, squirting, or spasms, and without any direct prostatic or anal stimulation. What's best, I did not feel at all refractory afterwards as I would have after a traditional spasmodic ejaculatory climax, so my libido remained high, I felt energized, I did not feel like resting or sleeping, and I could resume further sexual activity whenever I wished. As time went on, I found that I could consistently repeat this exercise after any dry multi-o session. It would therefore seem that, at least for me, it is possible to effectively milk my prostate without stimulating it directly.

@Thruster,

You speak as if in the past. It sounds like a wonderful ability to have!

Are you still able to do this type of exercise and, if so, how often?

Still current, not just past, about once a month for a fluid change. I can also do it with my wife -- ride the edge 'til the ducts open, with little or no contractions, convulsions, or spasms, but only after I've helped her through a bunch of her own orgasms and she can stay relatively still so I can control my state without being thrown over the edge. Afterwards, I'm less refractory than after spasmodic ejaculations. I never liked the spasms. My wife wanted me to have the traditional orgasms believing that they were the pinnacle of my enjoyment, but in reality, they were too harsh and left me wiped out and useless for the rest of the day, sometimes longer. Took some explaining, but we're good now.

That was all pre-Aneros, after much kegelling to delay ejaculation, without any tools, having read some books many years ago in the "new age" genre with tantric practices watered down for western consumption. I've only had the devices a few days and am eager to see where they'll take me and us!

@Thruster,I am truly in awe of your ability to do this. (Actually, I think I am slightly jealous since I am now 75 and probably a bit too old to teach my body how to do it)!

I am also reminded of a thread posted by @JMay in July last year, in which he described in some detail a process by which he is able to induce multiple orgasms by controlling his PC, BC muscles and what he terms his 'bladder sphincter', in a certain way that also had references to Tantric practice. (That thread became so long by November that it extended to two pages and I now find that I cannot access the first page of it (Apple Mac problem))?!

It was titled "The Key to sexual stimulation freedom (i.e. no risk of ejaculation and still get the cookie)".

I believe that his technique has a great deal in common with yours and I think you might find it interesting to read his thread if you can access it.

I would love to be able to master either of his your your techniques!

Thruster, I can do that too, release a slow stream of cum by edging. It feels wonderful and does keep me aroused. It took some practice edging, Pommie, but I'm 67yo so you're not too old. I do this while riding and orgasming for a hour or more. I feel like I'm balancing the urge to ejaculate with the intense orgasming sensations. I just had to learn what my triggers my ejaculation and relax or stop edging. Jmay also taught me this. I was wondering if this release of precum and cum and whatever can substitute for milking and prevent blue balls?

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@didymus he seems to go at it rather vigorously doesn't he. Much more aggressive that I imagined

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@didymus
Lol. Don't believe everything you read. When I milk my prostate, it involves way more pressure, than when I rub my eye. Light pressure will not yield a true milking.

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@Pspotsquirter I have always been very careful to be gentle.

@didymus

Firm steady pressure. But I'm never sore.

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@diddymus

About 2-3 times a month. No I do not edge.

@euphemistic,Thank you for your words of encouragement.

I took up edging following @JMay's thread and do it quite regularly now. I began (in true Tantric fashion) by working up to about half an hour each day, but found it was becoming almost a chore! (Can you believe that)?

I have now cut back to 10 or 15 minutes a day on most days, occasionally going on a bit longer if I find I don't want to stop. Still feel the ability to milk the prostate is eluding me at this stage but I doubt I would ever go to the (apparent) extreme that the fellow in @didymus's video seems to.

IMO, the methods suggested by you, @JMay and @Thruster would be much more pleasurable and would love to be able to follow suit.

I have come to the conclusion that milking and using dildos and other insertables is almost more pleasurable than just using the Aneros alone 🙁 I love the feeling and satisfaction of milking cum out of my prostate, and I can't get as much out with the automatic reflex movements of the Aneros. I know the Aneros very well, about 10 years now, and have gotten some milk out while using it hands free. But, being able to manipulate the head of a dildo directly on my prostate, and being able to slide it across it with varying amounts of pressure and speed, helps me feel more satisfied. Don't get me wrong, the Aneros alone does magical wonders for me and I wouldn't trade those for anything. But in terms of pure milking the P, I stand strongly in support of an insertable that has to be moved by hand. This backnobber looks very promising in that you don't have to reach around and bend to the side (I can't get as good contact/movement if I hold it between my legs) and being able to have such a long handle makes me want one very badly now!!!

I know there are health benefits to milking the prostate. If there weren't, it wouldn't feel so good to have something in your ass moving against it, and the fact that cum comes out from the massaging action may have something inherently related to the evolution of human males as a species (where anal penetration meant relieved stress and discomfort, and also draining the gland as a way of health). Its possible that human males need to be drained in this way, and this way alone, where normal coitus does not fully evacuate the semen completely. I get types of cum oozing out of me during milking that I never get out during sex, and I cum copious amounts all over my wife, shooting huge streams on her face and hair and torso when pulling out (she loves it). But the cum from milking, totally different. It feels relieving when it passes through and out, like something just happened that needed to happen.

Makes me want to milk now! This thread is a good one 😉

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@didymus
You could have bought a Mr. Swirly Dildo for $20.00 USD. A Backnobber II is really not a viable alternative to a Pure Wand. Njoys have no rough edges. There is a lot of truth in what @techpump said. Why would you stick something up your ass, that you have to sandpaper?

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@didymus
Mr. Swirly gives a more thorough and intense milking than a Pure Wand.

I think Pspot was just saying he agreed with me, sans sandpaper 😉

didymus, I just realized I've had the nJoy Fun Wand for a few years now and it is the best! I forgot all about that thing, it has milked more from my prostate than any other toy I've ever used (I've literally tried about 20). I need to get back on that thing, and soon! But, I still might try the backnobber, it looks like it has some ease-of-use benefits

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