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Hello everybody. I'm writing today to share with you, a way to masturbate and eventually take the level of pleasure WAY past where you would normally ejaculate, and blast into a penis based Super-O land. It takes alot of training and willpower, but you can do it. Hell, you already have the first part down. You already know that traditional orgasm and ejaculation is only a small fraction of the pleasure that your body is capable of. From there it's just a matter of training.

First, just masturbate for the fun of masturbating. Start thinking of orgasm as the end of the fun. It's something that only happens by accident. Always try to relax away from it for as long as you can without stopping. Even if that means slowing to micro movement on just the base of the shaft. For training purposes (and even at the height of super-o) the best time to stop masturbating is when the pleasure level dies down a bit, and before the rebound.

The next step is to 'ruin' every orgasm. When you pass the PONR, stop all sensation and focus all your energy into relaxing out of that first involuntary contraction. Even then, keep trying to stop. Eventually you will be able to basically piss out all the precum and prostate fluid that you would have normally ejaculated, (actually more than double the amount) but without actually orgasming. You'll be horny as hell after that too. But if you can ruin it successfully, take a break and allow yourself to fully cool down. ...Or just have an Aneros session.

Then the fun begins. Once you learn to cum without orgasm, you can learn to keep masturbating past the point where you would normally ejaculate, and enter an extremely high level of pleasure that can only be classified as a penis based Super-O. At that point, you can keep masturbating while you slowly drain the tanks of all fluids, without ever having an involuntary orgasm contraction. You will need alot of towels though, because when the tanks are dry, you'll just piss. ...Well, it's something. Thin, clear odorless fluid that isn't slippery.I thought it was piss at first, but now I don't think it is. ...Anyways, enjoy ^^


   
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Hey @Wandering_Smoke,

thank you for sharing. You may find this thread interessting as well.

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It's squirting that, I've had pebis super os from sex as well.


   
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That was a great thread @Unfug Thank you for the link. If I had read that first I would have posted this in there...and worded it a little differently. It does seem like my way is a bit different though. I've never had a dry orgasm, but I have had many wet, non-orgasms...if that makes sense. And I don't avoid the glans either. Anyways, I'll have to post something in that thread soon. Thanks again


   
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I have been working on this also. I will try your ruined O method and get back to you. Thanks for sharing.


   
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@brucemarkland Awesome. I hope you are ultimately successful. I've tried many different versions of the same basic theory over the years. This method seems to be the best for a couple reasons. A couple twitches from a dry orgasm seems to lower your base level of hornyness a bit and makes your dick softer when flaccid. But, holding in all the fluids will eventually slow production, and that lowers libido too. However, draining the fluids without allowing orgasm, both raises libido and keeps production up. Win win. ...It's maddening living with such extreme hornyness at first. But if you love the feeling, you will soon master the penis based Super-O.
Good luck!


   
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I tried a variation on this technique last night...I was having a wonderfully pleasurable Peridise session and was totally relaxed with slow deep breathing...could feel the Peridise bulb tickle my prostate...and trigger the building pleasure and arousal...over what seemed like 15 -20 minutes this total relaxation produced a deep pelvic pleasure and rising pulse rate usually associated with the onset of the PON for me...as my heart rate continued to build to a pounding level I felt this build up of fluid in my prostate and the strong need to pee...I took this cue to just continue to relax and breathe in order to stay in this state as long as possible...as the pee sensation became the strongest...I surrendered to my body and just lightly stroked my nipple and balls which resulted in the warm feeling of liquid streaming from my cock...but it was dry...then I lightly stroked the glans of my penis with the tip of my index finger and all of a sudden the flood gates opened up and this warm slippery liquid just streamed out for what seemed like 30 seconds and was extremely pleasurable...because it was dark I was not able to see the color of the ejaculation...but ithere was in a huge puddle in my bed...OMG...it was so hot! Had to sleep on a wet spot...but didn't mind at all...that little Peridise is quite a tool! Thanks Wandering Smoke for the relaxation technique...it really works for me...1st time I ever squirted with ANEROS inserted!


   
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Hello everybody!
This is my very first post in this forum. I found this thread by accident and was totally intrigued by the idea of getting to a higher level of horniness by training ruined orgasms and ejaculation without orgasm.
I wish I could find some further information on that technique, but google is no help for me in this case.
Has anybody of you made some new (or old) Experience with that? Or are there even some Videos about that in the Internet?
I would be happy to learn more about this theme.


   
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@Ralle I almost forgot about this thread, but I am glad to see some interest. ...As for your question, I don't know that there is any more I can say unless you have a specific question. I'm not very good at descriptive writing, unlike some of the people here, but I try to help when I can.

As far as the technique, well, that's highly personal. I've been perfecting it since puberty. The one thing you need to listen to is your body. But remember, when dealing with the penile masturbation, YOUR BODY LIES! You don't need to cum right now, unless you feel fluids move. If you do, then you need to ruin an orgasm and get something out to release pressure. That will maintain hormone levels. Ignoring it might cause a reversal, or blue balls. ...And no matter what, if your habit is to ruin orgasms, you'll feel the need to have one no matter how empty you are. So get used to it. Same as Aneros use. You WILL be perpetually EXTREMELY horny. It's like going through second puberty. No joke. But second puberty (Aneros) puberty is more intense. ...Just do your best until you learn how to live with it. Then enjoy the rest of your life....IMMENSELY! 😀


   
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Thank you for your answer! I wonder, how long it would take, to ruin the orgasms in the right way. How does it feel, if I ruin them "correctly"? If I try it now, there is still some kind of pumping motion left inside (but not as much as usual). I think I will have to stop that, too (?).


   
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@Ralle the ultimate goal is not to ruin an orgasm, it's to push beyond it, to what I'd classify as a penis based Super-O. But with that, you're in a very fragile state of extreme extacy. You can and will cum while masturbating, but without orgasming. It just runs out like a slow piss. It takes alot of practice and an extreme level of control to achieve, but you can do it.


   
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Hi Wandering_Smoke, after you directed me to this post when I was inquiring about methods to squirt Ive given this a pretty good read through. I agree with you that this approach and result might be somewhat different, but it still intrigues me as lately Ive been trying to open my mind and body up to any and all new ways to experience different pleasures and sensations.

With your method here.. you mention pushing yourself past the PONR over and over to give your penis a super-o. Some of the details regarding that approach interest me, specifically just going past the PONR.

I can remember a few years ago during one of my masturbating sessions I had gone slightly too far and felt the PONR, so I stopped all stimulation and hoped I wouldnt cum.. well I did, not the full amount maybe 25%.. but the refractory period didnt kick in and I remained hard.. if I recall I continued and just cummed normally. It wasnt until about a year later that I had read somewhere about something similar so I thought I would try it again.. I had also remembered that because the refractory didnt kick in I was still super horny which was awesome because from time to time I have a desire to taste/eat some of my cum but typically lose all desire once I have actually cummed.. so going past the PONR cumming, but not orgasming would still leave me with a huge sexual desire, so I could rejoice in the experience of trying my own juices.

It took me a few tries to get past it to happen again, but I managed.. masturbation just to or slightly past the PONR to trigger a partial ejaculation but no orgasm and no refractory period. Some of the tips I read to make this happen was to totally relax all my abdomen muscles (PC, Prostate, etc) to try and make it so it wasnt a full blown ejaculation and orgasm, perhaps even a reverse kegel as well.

Is this the same steps that you take to get to your super-o? just doing it over and over? I only would do one PONR and then afterwords just cum normally, but it sounds like this is the same approach you take to get to your penis super-o, is that right?

Also if you have any video of you performing this that would be great, or if youve seen a video of it that you can reference that would work too.


   
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You may find this thread interessting as well.

If you, too, couldn't open that broken link as well, try this one.

Cheers!


   
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Hey @SOwithoutAneros ,

If you, too, couldn't open that broken link as well, try this one.

Thx for pointing that out. I fixed the link. 🙂


   
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Hey guys!
I have tried this technique for a while, but with no success.
Here is the part, that doesn't work for me:

"When you pass the PONR, stop all sensation and focus all your energy into relaxing out of that first involuntary contraction."

The involuntary contractions will still happen, no matter what I try, to avoid them. I can keep them back for some seconds (without cumming at all), but then they will start with a normal Orgasm and cum shooting out.

Do you guys have any idea, what I could try to keep these contractions away?


   
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@Ralle a data-cke-saved-href="#" href="#" class="b-bbcode-user b-bbcode-user--has-avatar js-bbcode-user js-bbcode-user--userid56695" style="background-image: url("https://community.aneros.com/community/core/images/default/default_avatar_thumb.png");">frenchme236 data-cke-saved-href="#" href="#" class="b-bbcode-user b-bbcode-user--has-avatar js-bbcode-user js-bbcode-user--userid57051" style="background-image: url("https://community.aneros.com/community/core/images/default/default_avatar_thumb.png");">Ralle ,
I am familiar with this technique too. The thing is, you pass the PONR, but only very very slightly. If you time this right, you will have just one involuntary contraction, you will shoot one pulse of cum, but no more! The result is you will have expelled some of your fluids, but without having a full orgasm.
It is quite difficult to do this right, because if you overstimulate, you will end up having a normal orgasm. It is a matter of timing and takes a lot of practice.


   
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@Wandering_Smoke , like @frenchme236 , i am curious whether repeating the steps he described will lead to the super-o you described. I am able to repeate these 'ruined orgasms' you mentioned, but so far it hasn't lead me into a state as you described.


   
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I have done a bit of this method as well but not recently. I was able to reach the PONR and I think I just relaxed everything and stopped all stimulation but could still feel my body mix and do one PC contraction which ended up shooting out a stream of cum, I think I was able to do that 2 times in one session but I didnt really try for more and only did it one or two more times in other sessions.. I had just came across a post or video somewhere that talked about ejaculating without orgasm so I wanted to see if I could do it and I managed to.. I am however able to do this a slightly different way now during my edging sessions, I think I have built up enough strength now in my PC muscle now that during the first 5-10 minutes of edging I can feel myself getting close to the edge but somehow know and feel that its not going to be a full ejaculation so I let myself continue and just as that first feeling of the fluids mixing starts to happen I clamp down hard on the PC and stop all stimulation, after a few seconds I release and a stream of cum will shoot out.. I can do that maybe one more time but after that I think my prostate and PC are too stimulated or exhausted that it rolls over into a full orgasm so I cant quite do it.. perhaps the first method is the right one where you focus on relaxing everything.. maybe in a few months after Im done with my current goals I will try it again.. would love to hear more from @Wandering_Smoke as to his method and any extra tips.. really the whole reason I got into this was because of wanting to squirt and it sounds like @Wandering_Smoke 's method works to that end


   
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@Ralle, from my point of view it all is a matter of training, and well, I admit, I've done a lot.
*(Most following links are surely NSFW!)
If you like, let "edgemeplease.com" train you as it trained me. Read all the instructions on the main page thoroughly, then "Select your options, follow (further) instructions and start jerking off." At the beginning always choose "No, I will cum later". First it might feel frustrating, but after a while you will love to keep your arousal high and higher without cumming*. Search for "ruined orgasm", "tease and denial" and perhaps, if you like, "femdom" on tumblr and you will find many tips* and see a lot of videos* how to achieve these skills. Especially mean femdom women have learned a lot of skills how to tease a man without letting him cum. but "dr cumcontrol*" too is a male master* of desaster for ruining orgasms and draining the balls of his volunteer. Give up yourself, give in, let go, let increase your stamina and arousal to unknown levels and have the fun of your life!
P.S. Once when you will have improved your skills you can find out whether you can already cope with this challenge* of about half an hour or with this challenge* of even more than an hour and five ruined orgasms.


   
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