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Hello newbie2009, 🙂

That link was both fascinating and creepy to read. Whether there is any truth to it I found the following line quite interesting:

1. Believe in lactation. Males should try to imagine their nipples producing milk. Often, a rhythm of doing this works, modeled after the feeding times of a normal wet nurse.

I'm gonna go out on a limb now...

Believe in super orgasms. Males should try to imagine the feeling of having super orgasms. Envisioning the incredible pleasure from multiple non-ejaculatory orgasms during their Aneros sessions.

Sorry for going a little off topic.
But does anyone think this is an important part of achieving super orgasms?

To get on topic again.
Is it possible that nipple play during a session can get in the way? My point being that sometimes the pleasure from stimulating my nipples is more pleasurable that what I feel in my pelvic area. To the point where it gets difficult to concentrate on whatever subtle pleasures are being generated in my prostate and anus from my Progasm. I find my concentration divided between the two. Any thoughts? Thanks

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Believe in super orgasms. Males should try to imagine the feeling of having super orgasms. Envisioning the incredible pleasure from multiple non-ejaculatory orgasms during their Aneros sessions.

My 2-cents… Only thing is that if one hasn’t experienced a super orgasm then he really has no idea what feeling he should be envisioning.

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Is it possible that nipple play during a session can get in the way? My point being that sometimes the pleasure from stimulating my nipples is more pleasurable that what I feel in my pelvic area. To the point where it gets difficult to concentrate on whatever subtle pleasures are being generated in my prostate and anus from my Progasm. I find my concentration divided between the two. Any thoughts?

Don’t know about anyone else, but for me nipple play too early in a session tends to “short circuit” that session. But once the session is well under way and I’m experiencing that “incredible, euphoric, erotic, heart-racing, panting, moaning, whimpering, laughing, toe curling, deep down inside of me pleasure feeling” nipple play starts to take on a life of its own. So yes, Love_is, nipple play can get in the way if initiated too early in a session.

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PS: I'm not really happy with how I worded this post, but it'll have to do.


   
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Some AMAZING information here. I think I'm just the opposite though?

My inability to "get it up" on a moment's notice is age related. (I'm 66, probably double and then some your age, AW. Enjoy those instant and massive boners while you can).

I am going to try not to stimulate my nipples for a few weeks and see what happens.

Good luck with that! (I'm trying it as we speak and keep falling off the wagon. But I HAVE cut back)!

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....... My point being that sometimes the pleasure from stimulating my nipples is more pleasurable that what I feel in my pelvic area. To the point where it gets difficult to concentrate on whatever subtle pleasures are being generated in my prostate and anus from my Progasm. I find my concentration divided between the two. Any thoughts? Thanks ...

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Short answer, Ditto.

My cut. Overpowering. The nip stim is totally overpowering the prostate-stim. But, if I could get my finger nails directly on my prostate, it might be a tie. My nips are as close to virgin as they come.

From here on out my personal grooming takes a new turn. Finger nails will be trimmed much shorter. (Hmmm, I've always wondered why some guys seem compulsive about keeping their nails very short. DUH ! )

Until this morning I thought that the clothespin and paper-clip people were some sort of wackos.

Perhaps it takes the Aneros to light the nip-fire. Donno.

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For AW and SWW -- since you're rewired, you know the orgasm you're headed for and follow the correct road signs to get there and if you miss a roadsign, you know to not fall into potholes. Like Darwin, nip-stim and p-stim are just two different on-ramps to the same highway -- and in Darwin's case, it's an Autobahn.

For those of us still playing Monkey Football, the cues arising from p-stim and nip-stim seem quite different and we don't see the common ground between them. My first nip-stim efforts have been very, out-of-control. This is much like I got from what I now call, "vigorous masturbation of my prostate" several sessions ago.

As SWW might say, I don't produce 'cat scratch' erections unless I'm very well rested and highly stimulated or have taken an ED med.
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Here's whahoppen yesterday and today and how I think I'll proceed.

First, I'm not rewired. Probably a work in progress at about the 20-30% completion point (and going slower since I'm having a heluva lot of fun catching up with 60 missed years of anal play.) Second, I'm still on the compulsive side of the fence -- not yet ready to just to do "a Darwin" and allow the orgasm to come to me. (Side note -- don't take someone like Darwin up on racquetball. That sort of guy will make things come to him and run your ass all over the court.)

Yesterday I did two separate Helix sessions. Each failed early when I ejected the Helix, nvoluntarily. On the second session, I did my first serious nipple stim (Aside for some wear and tear a decade ago from a running singlet, these babies are virgin territory !) With the Helix in place I got both nips erect within two seconds of first touch. Amazing!!! (A later check the following day confirmed that speed of erection. With no Arenos, the time stretchs out to about 15-20 seconds.) This confirms for me what other posters have said about the connection between the nips and the prostate. It agrees with decades of 'studying' female nips as a direct path to the g-spot. Yesterday's nip-stim was definitely exciting and it was faster to get me panting than any prostate stim I've done to date. The nip-stim was early in the Helix session so I didn't get a chance for an encore.

After two involuntary Helix ejections in one day, I broke into the Father's Day present to see if I'd do better with a Progasm. That's a separate report but the bottom line is that the Dame "P" is a slower moving critter and easier to control in situations which would eject a smaller Aneros. I spent a full two hours with Lady-P and had two nipple stim evolutions. Going along with SWW's post, the first was light years better than the second. So, a single nip-stim, late in the Aneros session is where I'll go in the future.

Plenty of panting and sweating. No erection (however I do not erect with an Aneros inserted -- other than an occasional "anticipation-chubby" just before insertion.) The response to the nip-stim was pretty much pre-orgasmic, perhaps 30% of the way up the hill. (My best with Aneros is about 50-60%). Anyway, the Progasm session was a winner and very educational. The most pre-cum I'd produced in years (until, see below). Lotsa lube leakage but I was also on my first go with Shea Butter and had overdone on tool lube.

Got tired and called it quits with an intent to wait a few days, do a couple of Helix sessions then a Progasm session, all spread over two or three days.

After a short nap and a couple of hours telecommuting, I got the urge to do some more nipple stim. (Why? I don't know but it was a very purposeful call from within.) So curled up in a warm spot and, sans Aneros, lit up my nips. They screamed for more. No doubt that there was an orgasm shouting for release but I wasn't wired to make that happen. On two compulsive tries to climb the hill I was total sweat and desire. Through the tee-shirt or inside it I was struggling to assess how much pain I wanted and I'd swap back and forth between inside and outside the shirt. This is from a guy who's tried BDSM a couple of times and has always turned his back on it.

Anyway, after maybe 10 minutes time, I was half way up the hill and edging with panic. Still limp dick but I was getting one of those very warm chubbys that says, "go nail something - anything."

More pre-cum than the prior day and more than the Progasm had shoved out earlier in the morning. No doubt anymore. The nips are hooked to something very close to the prostate. At that point I slipped through a quick burst of T-Org and lapsed into massive belching of semen all over the place. (Note to the under 45 crowd -- us old guys don't shoot very far.) Nary a touch of the Glans through any of this save to check my pre-cum for consistency-- and that was well before I was on my way up the hill.

So, p-stim-- no erection.
Nip-stim -- AW says erect and I'm seeing warm chubby.
Both of us orgasm. the wired one dry, the unwired one goes wet.

Here's what I'm not sure about. I've felt that erections are probably suppressed during an Aneros session by pressure on the sweet spot by the p-tab. Whether that's a nerve block, acupressure along the meridian or some arterial restriction I don't know. Taking a PDE5 inhibitor will probably help define if there's minimal nitric oxide at work. I'll do that on the next Helix run. If that doesn't do it, I'll give Trimix a try. (It bypasses most of the neurochemical business and acts on the vascular tissue directly).

If Trimix works then it's an indicator that nitric oxide was suppressed and I'd guess that's the p-tab at work on the pudendal nerve. If Trimix doesn't work then we got a big arterial issue which we don't even think about right now!

Next is the nip thing. I had a warm chubby from nip-stim and AW reports a strong hardon (probably the same response -- just decades apart as SWW noted. Ah youth!

AW went into dry orgasm (he's rewired) and I went t-ejac (I'm not rewired.)

I want to try nip-stim after a good Progasm workout. And, another from a cold start--donno how long away from any action makes it a cold start. Any ideas?

That might show whether the remains of an Aneros session 'wash off' on the subsequent nip repsonses.

The questions to be answered or confirmed might look like:
a. Will penis be mostly flaccid when Aneros is inserted during good nipple stim?
b. If so, why?
c. Same for wired and rewired?
d. Will orgasm from nipple stim always be dry for the rewired among us?
e. And if Aneros is not inserted, will penis go erect from nipple-stim.
f. Will nipple stim lead to T-ejac for those who are not rewired?

Any thoughts?

Suggestions?

I have to give the old bod some recharge time and stretch these sessions out across several

days. I'd guess a project completion of a week from tomorrow. But, liking to be "under budget, ahead of schedule" I might make it by Sunday. 8)

Anyone else game?

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Is it possible that nipple play during a session can get in the way? My point being that sometimes the pleasure from stimulating my nipples is more pleasurable that what I feel in my pelvic area. To the point where it gets difficult to concentrate on whatever subtle pleasures are being generated in my prostate and anus from my Progasm. I find my concentration divided between the two. Any thoughts? Thanks

I don't use an aneros, but I occasionally enjoy taking a dildo into my anus and bringing myself to orgasm through thrusts of the dildo and nipple stimulation. But I have found I can rarely do both simultaneously. The stimulation of the anus detracts from the pleasure I feel in my nipples. It is similar to what you describe--a splitting of concentration.

I think this is why I don't care for 69, as exciting as it is an idea. I get more pleasure out of giving and receiving oral if only one person is giving and another receiving. On the other hand oral combined with nipple stimulation intensifies the pleasure.


   
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I've dwelt a bit on yesterday's final nip-stim session (aneros-out but only 2-3 hours after a Progasm session). My impression is that the final nip session reached well into my Dan Tien in a rather discomforting manner--sort of like an impending storm with dark turbulent clouds.

For Wuerstchen: Ever get anything like that?

I plan to follow the AW - Darwin - SWW line of thinking and use nip-stim only in the second half of Helix and Progasm sessions late this week.

I'll maintain a Dan Tien awareness. Might be a good roadsign along my path.

So much to do! Trim the fingernails !!! LOL

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AW & NuBe09...

Your "I want to screw anything I can find" comments made me think of the late 50's song "Love Potion Number Nine." (The Clovers)

"She bent down and turned around and gave me a wink
She said "I'm gonna make it up right here in the sink"
It smelled like turpentine and looked like India ink
I held my nose, I closed my eyes, I took a drink

I didn't know if it was day or night
I started kissin' everything in sight
But when I kissed the cop down at 34th and Vine

He broke my little bottle of
Love Potion Number Nine"

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Hi NuBe09,

Finally, about your questions. (My experience)

a. Penis is mostly flaccid with Aneros inserted, but jumps to attention when nipple stim is added to the equation. Stop the stim and Willy also takes a break, resume the stim and Willy is back on the job standing at attention. Kinda’ like magic.
b. There appears to be a direct connection between my nipples and my prostate, and possibly some other stuff “down there.”
c. I’d have to say same for wired or rewired.
d. Dunno, at this point in time they’re dry but ya’ never know what the future will bring.
e. That’s a big 10-4, good buddy!
f. In Wuerstchen’s case it has. (Lucky dog)!

You’re doing the same as me when I first discovered the Aneros, petal to the metal, session after session after session. If you find you’re not making any progress I suggest taking a few days off.

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Yeah, I'm off Aneros and Nips till later in the week. 🙂 Think I'll stay with two Helix sessions and one Progasm session per week. The week I took off for the PSA test enabled some PC, Ab and anal muscle building to take place. PSA results came back today... 1.35 (less than a 10% increase over last year). Big Hoorah since I had five Helix sessions under my belt before that blood draw.

It took over 12 hours for nips to wilt and about 30 hours for them to quit 'calling.'

Woke twice last night with major body tremor.

Today, the bod feels like it had a dose of Valium (I like everyone I see and all the drivers on the freeway were nice this morning.)

If there was a major prolactin surge it didn't dampen my libido in the least -- still got industrial strength headhorns.

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Hi NuBe09,

You’re doing the same as me when I first discovered the Aneros, petal to the metal, session after session after session. If you find you’re not making any progress I suggest taking a few days off.

SWW

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Guilty as charged.

Old saw.... "yes but I'm having so damn much fun!"

I tend to be Obsessive-Compulsive with any new sensuous tool that comes my way. That includes physical tools, new performance cars and new bedroom techniques. They all dump me into the O-C crevasse for a time.

Us O-C guys won't find the limits of the envelop until the Super-O brings us inner peace. We resemble a pin-ball machine...lotsa bumper hits. Meanwhile, as J4 says, we grind it out.

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The questions to be answered or confirmed might look like:
a. Will penis be mostly flaccid when Aneros is inserted during good nipple stim?
b. If so, why?
c. Same for wired and rewired?
d. Will orgasm from nipple stim always be dry for the rewired among us?
e. And if Aneros is not inserted, will penis go erect from nipple-stim.
f. Will nipple stim lead to T-ejac for those who are not rewired?

I'm no nipple or breast stim expert, and actually no aneros expert either, so I can't answer all these questions with absolute authority but I'll throw in my experiences anyway.
I've not yet had any multiple or non-ejaculatory orgasms from use of aneros or from stimulating my nipples or breasts, but I've had some very nice experiences with them none the less.

a. I find that erections come and go during aneros sessions for me, but nipple stim does seem to bring them every time.
b. As to why, I'm not sure.
c. re-wired or not? I'm not really sure which I class as. I'm definitely somewhere along the re-wiring path, but perhaps not totally re-wired since the only orgasms I ever achieve are still ejaculatory ones resulting from direct penile stimulation.
d. I haven't ever got there so I've got no data to report there.
e. Yes, getting pleasure from my nipples always seems to get my penis going too.
f. Again I can't say since I've never reached orgasm by this method.


   
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A couple of months ago, following a nipple orgasm, I had three further orgasmic climaxes in succession by rubbing three distinct areas of the breast: first the area toward the middle of my chest, near the breastbone and above the horizontal axis between the nipples, then the area where the breast flattens into the rib cage, and, finally, about two inches outside the nipple, between the nipple and the armpit.

I have finally posted photos indicating these points in my nipple orgasm group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nipple_orgasm/ . They are posted in a special album in the photo section, "Breast orgasm." I would love to hear from others who can duplicate this experience.

I have found that vigorous stimulation (rubbing) of the points shown in the photos produces further orgasms, usually 'rounder' and more intense than the nipple orgasm, and almost always results in ejaculations. These breast orgasms have become routine for me now, which means I always have at least three or four orgasms in any session. When I am really wired, I start a second cycle of rubbing these erogenous points, and have had up to five breast orgasms this way.


   
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😯 2.5 hours a day vacuum pumping! I'm surprised you didn't lactate! 😆

Yes, I think a little nipple stimulation is a good thing, but was warning against exactly that sort of over-the-top approach. I think as long as men know how their bodies work, they can tweak it to get the results they want.


   
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😯 2.5 hours a day vacuum pumping! I'm surprised you didn't lactate! 😆

Yes, I think a little nipple stimulation is a good thing, but was warning against exactly that sort of over-the-top approach. I think as long as men know how their bodies work, they can tweak it to get the results they want.

Hi zaneblue,
That seems to be the story of my life, every time I get into something new I tend to go overboard. Now that I know my limits I can stimulate accordingly.

BTW, any idea how long it takes for prolactin levels to return to normal upon stopping nipple stimulation?

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The last few sessions I have been bypassing the nipple orgasm and going for the multiple breast orgasm. I think I have mentioned this before. I bring myself close to orgasm by nip-stim and then when I get close, switch to massaging the full area of the breast. This feels indescribably wonderful. Because I have not yet had a nipple orgasm, the feeling in the breasts builds gradually and wondrously and then produces what seems like endless waves of round, whole body orgasms. Incredible.

Because they are so sensitive, the nipple orgasm is sharper, and although the real orgasm is going on in the penis/prostate region, that sharpness tends to dominate. With the breast orgasm the feelings of pleasure are more balanced, and I get a greater sense of release.


   
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Just a comment on breastfeeding--typically a mother nurses a baby at both breasts during a nursing session, to help with milk production (the more the breasts are drained, the more milk is produced).

I've posted before about my heart chakra orgasms. I am quite convinced that's how women are built to ejaculate energy, just as men ejaculate energy through a traditional orgasm.


   
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Some people say there is a connection between the nipples and the prostate and that a "nipple orgasm" is actually a form of a prostate orgasm.


   
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Thanks very much plantation for this article! 😀 😀 😀

It is very interesting to see the same neuro/mind-game strategies as Aneros being applied by sex therapists and as clearly articulated! All the best with your aneros journey friend plantation!

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bonjour 😉 http://ezinearticles.com/?Nipple-Orgasm---Does-it-Exist?&id=1120268

Of course it exists, and not only for women, as this link implies. Lately I have used my nipples as a kind of foreplay for breast orgasm. That is to say that by stimulating only my nipples (no touching the penis!) I bring myself near to nipple orgasm. This activates the erogenous feelings in the surround breast area, then I leave the nipples alone and begin slowly massaging my breasts to orgasm, which is usually multiples.


   
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After my third session with my new Progasm Ice, one of my nipples was tingling like crazy! This tingling lasted for the next day and a half. Every time i touched it it felt so good. The following evening while at the movies with the wife, i couldn't take it any longer and started to play with the nipple and after about 20 minutes or so it kept building and led to a mild full-body orgasm! it was great...This was my 1st "O" using Aneros and i can't wait for the next one... 😀


   
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Bumping great subject again.
This forum is a gold mine.


   
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I still can't understand how it's possible. Anyways, what is this device?

http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=2ANSx-S265-


   
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yup, sure looks like it. @inhope, have you tried massaging your nipples? As the rewiring starts to take place lots of men report that their nipples become very erogenous and feels like they are connected directly to their prostate.


   
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every session i do it actually yes, gets me aroused but not connected to prostate, it actually distracts after a while from the sensations I'm concentrating on


   
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I've found that nipple play ties in well with prostate massaging, but sometimes it's definitely better to go without any nipple play at all, especially early in the rewiring. Nipple play kind of boosts the sensations, but it doesn't help you progress faster.

At least that's my interpretation.


   
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