Lubes Again...

I promise this will be my one and ONLY contribution to the lube discussions!

Why? All viewpoints are welcomed.

I think lube discussion is second only to anerose purchase. Beginners really want to know what works and the pros and cons. It was my great worry when I discovered I just did not like glycerine. I thought there's was not alternative. Now the good possibilities are almost endless and this forum prevents serious errors. Most grateful to all.

Thank you for being so generous. Actually it was a bit of dry humor. It's a pretty well discussed topic.

Isvara - I agree totally!

Xileh

ID Glide works for me.

Actually it was a bit of dry humor.

Well, then, it obviously needs some lube on it. 😉

Not unless it was dry-O humor! LOL

Thanks for the information Xileh. How do you apply it, as I assume it is gel like in consistency?

My only constructive criticism is, cost wise it is more than double for less lube than a 7oz container of Now Solutions 100% shea butter that can be had online for around $6.

Will vegetable oils cause rubber to degrade over time?

In other words, can you use coconut or almond oil in one of those lube syringes?

For a really good water-based lube, try Slippery Stuff Gel; it's super slippery, super thick, super long-lasting, glycerin-free (anal-safe), and it's not too expensive. I just purchase a 16 oz pumper for under $15 del'vd from Amazon.

dingus
My syringes are made of plastic, both the shell and the plunger. These have been used for 5 months and i think will last forever. They come with my androforte for which i am very grateful. I had to modify the ends to suit. I don't know the product you speak of. The rubber you speak of may be neoprene or a plastic which should not deteriorate. IMO Vegetable oils are not as destructive as mineral oil (Vaseline) but still are an oil. I don't think this helps much.

What's an androforte?

dingus
My syringes are made of plastic, both the shell and the plunger. These have been used for 5 months and i think will last forever. They come with my androforte for which i am very grateful. I had to modify the ends to suit. I don't know the product you speak of. The rubber you speak of may be neoprene or a plastic which should not deteriorate. IMO Vegetable oils are not as destructive as mineral oil (Vaseline) but still are an oil. I don't think this helps much.

I, too, am wondering what androforte is.

What a crack up!

No pun whatsoever. The humor here is something else. The tube does not recomend use with latex. It has the consistancy of a light vaseline so you don't need to inject it. Being light, it isn't as sticky as vaseline so there is more movement for the smaller massagers like the Eupho and Perdise. It works really well with the Syn, especially if you warm it first. Unlike liquid lubes, it doesn't drip and make mess. It seems to last. I also like the idea that it is organic. I just ordered a bunch more from Cheap Lubes.

Xileh

Hmmm, sounds interesting and I shall order some too!

I just checked Cheap Lubes for Androforte--are you sure that's the name? I can't find it there.

"Valera Organic Vaginal Lubricant"

That's why it is a bit odd.

Oops I shouldn't have said that! Androforte is a hormone replacement therapy I am on. Available by script only. What I meant was syringes are around. E.g. Vaginal thrush medication comes with an all plastic syringe I think! There used to be an applicator for a vaginal contraceptive. Amazon will not mail anything like toys or syringes to Australia. So I have had to improvise. I also notice they won't mail the same to some US states. Bit hard when you want to do the right thing safely! Sorry if I have misled you. I do appreciate the discussion and information on the forum.

"Valera Organic Vaginal Lubricant"

That's why it is a bit odd.

I hope it lasts a long time because it is pricey (or dear to Brits) @$16 for 3oz at both Cheap Lubes and Amazon.

Yes, I searched for af and figured out what you meant.

I'm using a glue applicator, bought from a woodworking shop and modified. Works fine.

I use a baby oral medicine syringe that I got at the grocery store for less than a dollar.

I think what dingus is talking about is the rubber O ring on the plunger. Unfortunately I don't know the answer to this.

That's exactly my question: will vegetable oils cause that rubber piece to deteriorate. I would expect mineral oil to damage it, but vegetable oils, I'm not sure.

I Googled "rubber" and "vegetable oil" and "deteriorate" and discovered discussions on biodiesel boards about the damage to some engine parts (gaskets and seals and such) that results from converting a diesel engine to biodiesel, so that might be the answer: yes, it does.

The reason I asked is that someone mentioned coconut oil as a lube. I tried it, using my syringe as an applicator, and it worked really well. But if it were to cause the rubber thing to rot away or melt, I'd have to think of a different way to use it.

I really think everyone is overthinking this. I see alot of discussion of wear due to type of lube and I really think it's unfounded. You're not driving a car here...your sticking something in your ass and learning how to let yourself be free and feel pleasure...lol.

Just make sure whatever lube you use is safe and works for you. Overthinking things was not apart of my journey.

Over thinking - yep you can get lost in it.
Many hardware stores will sell various sized "o" rings. These will most certainly be neoprene and oil safe. Car garages and autos shops will also sell oil safe "o" rings.

FWIW, a few weeks ago I mistakenly used walnut oil instead of KY gel in a syringe (each are stored in similar small jars), and that syringe has never worked properly since. It is as if the oil has caused the O ring to swell and it is now too tight.
It's not a great problem as syringes are not that expensive but I doubt I will use walnut oils in a syringe again.

FWIW, a few weeks ago I mistakenly used walnut oil instead of KY gel in a syringe (each are stored in similar small jars), and that syringe has never worked properly since. It is as if the oil has caused the O ring to swell and it is now too tight.
It's not a great problem as syringes are not that expensive but I doubt I will use walnut oils in a syringe again.

I was trying to think what happened to one of my syringes, butt that is it. The o ring swelled up so it became impossible to push it in the plunger. I don't remember what I used. It was before I started using shea butter and vaseline. I don't use syringe anymore. No need for it.

Just a quick update after a couple of weeks of use:

- A comment was made about the cost of a 3oz tube being high. It does seem expensive, but it only takes a small amount and lasts a long time. Maybe one reapplication in several hours. My first tube is going to last much longer than my liquid choices.

- No messiness. Other lubes rub most off during insertion. This seems to stay on the massager.

- No side effects during or after. No laxative effects.

- Outstanding with the Syn, even sleeping.

- Great with the smaller massagers, nice movement.

- Easy to cleanup, no residue on the Syn.

- It still has a weird name.

Xileh

Xileh
You've convinced me. I'm going to give it a try.

I have tried a number of lubes and some were sticky, messy and horrid. I have now settled on MAXIDUS, a water based lube available from Lovehoney in the |UK. (250ml for £10). It is fairly viscous and slow to draw up into a dropper so I have now watered it down a little. 2 to 1 ie. one part water. This water is sterile from cold but boiled kettle. It is easy to load up and very effective. No mess and very clean.

Do you mean Maximus lube? I have some, but my body doesn't like it much.