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How many of you guys are jealous of the female ejaculation?

It's common for us males to have refractory period, but for women they can have multiple ejaculations.

I am talking about clitoral ejaculations and vagina as well.


   
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Well that's simply not true. Women experience a refractory period too, and I think it works exactly the same. Obviously it varies a lot between individuals, but that's true for men as well. I don't think it's too uncommon for women to have a multiple hour long refractory period.

I think there are reasons for this misunderstanding, I'll list a few:

1. It's generally shorter. I don't know for sure that this is true, but I believe it is. And it's probably not due to the refractory period itself being different, but perhaps more to do with women being more "re-wired"? Another reason could be that the more you rely on the ejaculatory reflex to orgasm, the longer the refractory period is, and for many women it's very hard to trigger the ejaculatory reflex (assuming it exist in women, I believe it does), because it cannot be stimulated as directly as for men.

2. Women can still have penetrative sex during refractory, men can't. When a man ejaculates, the penis almost always goes soft, so even if he has a very short refractory period, a break from penetration must occur. The clitoris doesn't have to be aroused for sex to continue, assuming the woman's arousal doesn't drop too much after orgasm so that she loses all interest in sex/dries up.

3. Some women are truly multi-orgasmic. I don't know how high that number is, I believe it is fairly low, possibly below 10%. Still, it's a significant amount and it's easy to remember the exceptions. It's not easy to tell whether a woman is truly multi-orgasmic or has a very short refractory period though. For men, a dry orgasm means no refractory so it's very easy to tell when a man is multi-orgasmic, where as all orgasms for women are "dry".

What I am most curious about is why the refractory period in women is shorter and why the drop in arousal seem to be lower on average. I think my theory that women are more re-wired makes sense. In fact, I think women are forced to be re-wired if they want to enjoy getting penetrated because the vagina seem to require a different type of arousal than the clitoris/penis does, which could be very similar to the type of arousal we try to build when we strive for prostate orgasms and other types of orgasms here.

Out of curiosity I'll ask the older members here a question. As you got older, did you experience that the amount of multi-orgasmic women increase in frequency? If you've been with the same woman for quite some time: did she become more multi-orgasmic over time?


   
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Not really.
I've had plenty of ejaculations that weren't accompanied by an orgasm.
I've had sessions where I needed to piss really badly, and I allowed it to work its way out, to the point where I was kind of / nearly / almost squirting it (which felt nice, but not orgasmic).
I think the physical expulsion of fluids by itself is pretty dull... there is something erotic about it, but I don't think it's responsible for ejaculation pleasure.
From what I've read of people's super-o descriptions, one can experience multiple dry ejaculation feelings. I haven't gotten there yet (to the point where I completely felt as if I were ejaculating), but I've been close enough that I believe it's possible.


   
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Uhh sorry I probably misunderstood your post a bit. I thought you were envious about women having no refractory period from clitoral orgasms. If I understand it correctly, you're talking about squirting?

If I understand squirting correctly, women can squirt two different liquids (sometimes both at the same time) which are urine and the female equivalent of prostate fluid. I don't know how common this is, but I believe I'm pretty much a natural male squirter. Ever since I started masturbating I've been able to squirt some prostate fluid (never urine as far as I know though) right before hitting the point of no return. I doesn't always happen and I can't really control it. The issue is that ejaculation blocks further liquids from being squirted, hence it can only happen before or after the ejaculation. Most of the squirting for women happens during the orgasm and this is probably why I have only been able to squirt small amounts. Now if I can learn to have dry penile orgasms, I'm sure I'll be able to squirt much bigger amounts of prostate fluid. I'm really curious how common it is for men to squirt prostate fluid before orgasms like I do.

I'm not sure how to go about squirting urine, but I don't see why it shouldn't be possible for men as well. Perhaps being properly hydrated and stimulating the bladder could do the trick. Someone with the ability to have dry penile orgasms should try it out!


   
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Uhh sorry I probably misunderstood your post a bit. I thought you were envious about women having no refractory period from clitoral orgasms. If I understand it correctly, you're talking about squirting?

If I understand squirting correctly, women can squirt two different liquids (sometimes both at the same time) which are urine and the female equivalent of prostate fluid. I don't know how common this is, but I believe I'm pretty much a natural male squirter. Ever since I started masturbating I've been able to squirt some prostate fluid (never urine as far as I know though) right before hitting the point of no return. I doesn't always happen and I can't really control it. The issue is that ejaculation blocks further liquids from being squirted, hence it can only happen before or after the ejaculation. Most of the squirting for women happens during the orgasm and this is probably why I have only been able to squirt small amounts. Now if I can learn to have dry penile orgasms, I'm sure I'll be able to squirt much bigger amounts of prostate fluid. I'm really curious how common it is for men to squirt prostate fluid before orgasms like I do.

I'm not sure how to go about squirting urine, but I don't see why it shouldn't be possible for men as well. Perhaps being properly hydrated and stimulating the bladder could do the trick. Someone with the ability to have dry penile orgasms should try it out!

I have noticed within the last few months that I squirt a thin fluid that I believe is prostate fluid. It's thin in consistency and usually occurs when I am edging. It happens right before the point of no return. It's not pre-cum, and is more milky in appearance. I have to be really close to ejaculating to make it happen.


   
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I have noticed within the last few months that I squirt a thin fluid that I believe is prostate fluid. It's thin in consistency and usually occurs when I am edging. It happens right before the point of no return. It's not pre-cum, and is more milky in appearance. I have to be really close to ejaculating to make it happen.

Yeah that's exactly how it happens for me. I'm almost completely sure it's prostate fluid.


   
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If its thin, white, and thinner than skimmed milk, its likely to be prostatic fluid. While I have not ejaculated prostatic fluid like you guys have, there are some times when my prostate is so aroused that I leak this thin, white fluid, much thinner than semen, and not clear like precum, but white and milky.


   
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If its thin, white, and thinner than skimmed milk, its likely to be prostatic fluid. While I have not ejaculated prostatic fluid like you guys have, there are some times when my prostate is so aroused that I leak this thin, white fluid, much thinner than semen, and not clear like precum, but white and milky.

It is very thin fluid (thinner than skim milk). I have to maintain relaxation of my pc muscles, sometimes holding a reverse kegal near the point of no return for it to happen. Rapid stroking and avoiding the glands also seems to allow the thin fluid to spurt more easily and makes it less likely to go over the edge. This is a relativity new phenomenon for me. It's a good way to have a "ejaculation like sensation" without the actual ejaculation, which I am trying to avoid on a frequent basis to keep my arousal high; usually helps my sessions and allows for better, more powerful dry O's.


   
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If its any comfort, I can assure you of three things I've learned:
1. Obsessing over someone else having more pleasure only blocks your own. Being happy for another's pleasure increases your own capacity for it.

2. Men can certainly squirt as well. Sometimes prostatic fluid and also essentially a clear liquid like you see more explosively in women. To try the later you can get close to ejaculating for an extended period and then stimulate the glans directly with your legs spread wide and little to no tension in the legs. I have had good luck with a fleshlight lightly but rapidly stroking only the head.

It takes a while to enjoy this because there is a strong habit to block against this stimulation. Once you get brave though it is a very intense and engaging method. Can be quite fun but....

3. Slowly opening up to the Aneros or other method (I prefer the njoy wand large side left in place) can take you to levels that quite frankly are just beyond the sexual realms. I assure you that you are capable of opening up to it and there is nothing you could be jealous of. It all starts with opening to YOUR OWN experience though, even if it does not yet seem special.


   
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I should clarify as well, the squirting ejaculation does not feel the same at all to me as a regular one. You know that feeling immediately after entering the refractory period where direct stimulation is too strong to enjoy? Squirting requires fully entering into that space. It feels like Agony until you fully trust it and it becomes a more akin to an Ecstacy. Its intense and very easy to access but the Aneros path is much more gentle and ultimately much more satisfying though. In my opinion of course.


   
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I was jealous until my first super-o. Now they would be jealous of me, XD.

I kid, I kid. We're all basically the same, men and women - the differences between us are very minimal. I mean, we only become either boys or girls after a while in the womb! it's not a surprise to me that our sexual organs have some capacity for the same type of transcendental pleasure.


   
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