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I've been using an Aneros for 6 months. Why do I only get wet orgasms?


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I have been using an Aneros helix and it seems that I've been having trouble getting anywhere other than a build up in to wet orgasm.


Steps I take:


1. Lube/insertion. Give 10 mins. for adjusting and relaxing.
2. Put a porn video on, relax on bed with legs straight out (cant relax with them bent).
3. Get erection followed by very small involuntaries that eventually turn in to inner muscle clenching with no movement.
4. Then the clenching starts fluttering and it moves to a harder clench (this happens on 4 different levels of deepness)
5. Then I start releasing after about 20 minutes. If I relax 100% it stops but I kind of then sit there and it's almost like my body wants to manually contract it in and out (though I'm still in some control).
6. It will contract like 10 times in 10 seconds then trigger the kegel muscles and the pleasure will build in my penis then the anal contraction will release really quickly. All fast paced. Then the pleasure builds in my penis to a point where it feels really good (I'm not touching it) and then I start initially having a dry ejaculation that quickly turns in to a full out traditional orgasm.


   
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@Kylezach,I'm not sure what you mean by a "dry ejaculation".

I believe that practitioners of Tantric and Taoist methods, espouse that Orgasm comes first and is followed by ejaculation and that this is how one is able to receive multiple orgasms. It becomes a matter of developing the skills required to separate the two phenomena.

Am I wrong?


   
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I'm mainly talking about the super-O and how people describe p-waves. I am not getting any feeling throughout my body, just around the penis and anus.


   
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@Kylezach,I feel for, I really do.
Seems to me that the ejaculation reflex is so well entrenched in you that we need to find a way of bypassing it.
First up, I have no medical or psych qualifications, so I can only pass on the benefits of my experience.

Might I suggest that you try learning the practice of "edging"? I believe this is a technique taught by Tantric gurus whereby one masturbates to the PONR repeatedly without allowing oneself to tip over the edge into a normal ejaculatory orgasm. From my own own perspective, I find this practice done regularly, to be highly pleasurable and deeply rewarding, especially when you learn to recognise the PONR. Some more experienced Aneros users than me, have found that they can experience what seems to be an ejaculatory orgasm without ejaculating. I would love to be able to reach that condition!

Another thought. Have you considered terminating your Aneros sessions before actually getting to the point of having your "dry ejaculation"?

A totally different approach, (and one which I am sure wouldn't work for me), might be to masturbate to an ejaculation immediately before beginning your Aneros session. Personally, the refractory period after ejaculation would kill any interest in an Aneros session but you might be young enough that this wouldn't be a problem.

I hope this helps but look forward to seeing what other suggestions might come up.

The best of luck .to you in your journey


   
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It might also be because of the porn you're watching. I remember when I used to look at hetrosexual porn (from a guys perspective) during a session the feelings would go mostly to my penis. That changed when I imagined myself to be the girl and started watching lesbian porn.
Now I don't watch any porn at all during a session, I just close my eyes and use my imagination and focus on the sensations. But whenever I fantasize about (for example) sex with a woman the sensations instantly go to my penis. I never had a wet orgasm from aneros use alone but I think that's what the result would be if I would keep the penis as the core of pleasure in my mind.
I think that while it's known you shouldn't touch your penis during a session, it might also be important to not be too penis-centered in your fantasies and during arousal.


   
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@Kylezach, many words of wisdom in the above posts.
My thoughts, from the bottom of the class:
You are six months into the journey. You don't say how old you are, and that may be relevant.
Your path may also be personal to you. From what you describe you are not just 'jerking off' you describe a number of variations on the way. If you enjoy the experience then go with it. You may find that soon it will not resolve into ejaculation, but for the moment that may be what journey is. I have no problem with erotic porn - or as I would prefer to say sexual enjoyment, however, depending on its content it may be pushing you to far too soon in your sessions. You may find your #4 will not go as far as it is. The last few times I have found the prostate "balls" up, but one day I expect it to do something different. Six months is not very long. I just hope you are enjoying what is happening and able to relax with it.


   
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Very simply too much tension... and even more, tension in the trigger areas.

If you need to contract (best would be not to) then make it anything but the penis/kegels/prostate. Your trigger points will produce an ejaculation if tension builds in them. Even worse, stimulation of your triggers will produce reflex tension in them which means even more stimulation of the triggers in an endless loop which ends wet.

Observe your reactions, learn your personnal triggers, learn to avoid them learn new pleasures and new paths.

My personnal take on your steps (don't take it literraly, everybody's a bit different) :

1 - insertion shouldn't be your first step
2 - Your take on arousal may not be the one wanted for an aneros session and trying to artificially create the state with help of porn is very counterproductive. Forget arousal, it is a misleading word. Rather, think "awakening". And that awakening should be "internal" (not come from physical tension), like the urge for a sigh or a yawn.
2.5 - Your relaxing position and intention are right. But this shouldn't be your step 2.5, it should be step one.
3 - erection, early involuntaries, clenching... Every signs checked. Game is over: you went the wet path already.
4 - predictably, clench then harder clench... The inevitable progression
5 - relaxing at this point would be very interesting and intensely pleasurable, but you would probably go wet anyway. When the prostate is filled already too late is too late. The sensations you get from trying to relax and the urges thus revealed should be very educational though.
6 - your body is serving you well by ejaculating what has already been released inside. This is healthy. But also a sign of very excessive tension in the whole area.


   
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@Canacan, brilliant, thank you.


   
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Very simply too much tension... and even more, tension in the trigger areas.

If you need to contract (best would be not to) then make it anything but the penis/kegels/prostate. Your trigger points will produce an ejaculation if tension builds in them. Even worse, stimulation of your triggers will produce reflex tension in them which means even more stimulation of the triggers in an endless loop which ends wet.

Observe your reactions, learn your personnal triggers, learn to avoid them learn new pleasures and new paths.

My personnal take on your steps (don't take it literraly, everybody's a bit different) :

1 - insertion shouldn't be your first step
2 - Your take on arousal may not be the one wanted for an aneros session and trying to artificially create the state with help of porn is very counterproductive. Forget arousal, it is a misleading word. Rather, think "awakening". And that awakening should be "internal" (not come from physical tension), like the urge for a sigh or a yawn.
2.5 - Your relaxing position and intention are right. But this shouldn't be your step 2.5, it should be step one.
3 - erection, early involuntaries, clenching... Every signs checked. Game is over: you went the wet path already.
4 - predictably, clench then harder clench... The inevitable progression
5 - relaxing at this point would be very interesting and intensely pleasurable, but you would probably go wet anyway. When the prostate is filled already too late is too late. The sensations you get from trying to relax and the urges thus revealed should be very educational though.
6 - your body is serving you well by ejaculating what has already been released inside. This is healthy. But also a sign of very excessive tension in the whole area.

Thanks for the list. I'm curious though. I bring on what I think are involuntary contractions by clenching and releasing as per some other advice and guides on here. I've tried the do-nothing approach before. Didn't have anything happen in about 75 minutes. Is there something to do while focusing on the ever-so-slight sensations?


   
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