Or is it a genetic factor that can't be changed?
At this point I think it's finally clicked that I have a numb prostate, and I kept thinking consistent Aneros use would improve that. The amazing orgasms I've had up to this point were all anal based, afaik — maybe I'm wrong.
Going back through my blog posts, it is odd because I swear I had prostate sensations but maybe it was something different (ex. the mental state)
Thanks in advance!
I think youre on to something here, every session ive had for the past number of years follows the same pattern of initoaly feeling amazing and then the prostate goes numb! sensitivty just drops to zero, literally nothing. I hear Saw Palmetto (?) is meant to help with this, anyone confirm?
Interesting Dark engine. I wondered about this because this numbness seems to result from prolonged anseos use. I don’t think it’s the prostate but the muscles attending it that get tired. That’s my experience, for what it’s worth. The muscle reflexes weaken and they don’t play on the Aneros. I find that resting helps.
@DarkEngine I find that a nice, relaxed, paced approach to my sessions and Aneros works best for me. I am not trying to "force" anything now; whatever happens, happens! That way, I am not disappointed and I can feel the effects more strongly as they come. Oh, and don't forget the Aless after a session is always welcome!
for me, the answer is weed. With a few year practice under my belt and knowing what to look for and what it feels like, when I get high almost the first thing I feel is a buzzing in my prostrate. When I feel this I know I am in for a good session. Also, this very often brings on A-less orgasms
Thanks for the feedback all!
I'm not sure on the gland and muscles becoming weaker. During my time with Aneros (and anal play as a whole) over the years, sticking my finger up there for pre lube or pleasure my prostate wouldn't give any sort of sensation when touching it. I could physically feel it with my thumb, but the prostate wouldn't feel my thumb. The possibility there would be that the gland isn't swelling or engaged, but even when it was: no dice.
Various communities related to anal play have suggested that prostate sensitivity is just different amongst men. Some have very sensitive prostates, others are numb. It's not a black-and-white case, of course, as it's a spectrum. But it seems like my prostate is pretty numb. Adding to this is my orgasms largely occur in the abdomen which seemed odd — as those are accounts from people who have anal orgasms, and doesn't add up with the prostate orgasm.
Hey @DarkEngine ,
First, nobody will ever really know because we can't switch bodies. So yeah, the hypothesis of a naturally numb prostate is as valid as any other assumption.
BUT:
I think it is only true in so far, that everbody has a different starting point somewhere on the spectrum you mentioned. Like some people are naturally fit and lean while others gain weight by just looking at a hamburger. Still the rules of physics apply to all of us. Everybody can get in shape with time and dedication. What's different is the amount of time and energy one has to spend on it.
Another analogy. You may be aware of the interpretation-war around the female g-spot. Very related, because the G-Spot is the female equivalent to the prostate. There are basically two strong opposing opinions:
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Here is the thing: both are wrong. They make the very same assumption that you do: that the prostate is aligned from birth and can't evolve. They only see the starting point, which is (naturally) different for everybody, but don't recognize that there is learning involved.
Apparently you are anerosing for quite a while now so normally one would expect some breakthrough by now. It seems to me, that time is not the only thing that's needed. I spend my first 4,5 years with almost no progress whatsoever. After I changed my approach, I went from (still) absolute beginner to Super-O in 6 months. What's interesting is, that you were able to and re-wired anal nerves. On the other hand you did not had to wake them up at first. Every normal person is used to feel something with their anus everytime the have a BM. So you could feel it already. The work you put up was upon re-wiring them to feel and build arousal. But we are not used to feel our prostate. That's the catch. You need to wake up the nerves in your prostate and learn to feel the prostate first. Re-routing (any) sensations to build arousal comes second.
Building sensitiveness is not acquired with bold stimulation, but with subtlety. That's why the do-nothing approach works so well for so many. Because if you have to concentrate to feel anything, you train the ability to feel everything.
I could physically feel it with my thumb, but the prostate wouldn't feel my thumb.
That's odd indeed. Did you actually felt nothing with your prostate? Even no pressure? No awkward stretch-feeling of tissue? Do you feel your prostate when you ejaculate? Like at the PONR and shortly after, when alle the fluids are moving inside you just before the first spasm occur. Feeling with fingers is tricky, because your fingers are very sensitive. When you have two sensory inputs at once, the stronger may overule the weaker. That's why scratching a mosquito bite alleviates the itch. The pain from scratching overrules the sensations from itching.
Adding to this is my orgasms largely occur in the abdomen which seemed odd
No it's not. You have a huge nervous cluster in your belly. Jacks KSMO approach aims solely for that cluster and it works like a charm. Feeling orgasms in different places just means that you become more and more able to spread arousal into bigger parts of your nervous system. That's the road to full body orgasm.
The aneros is a tantric training wheel. A shortcut to your nervous system. To me it seems that you can't open the door but stepped inside of the house through the open window instead. That's alle that matters - you are in the house already. You may experiment with other tantric energy-orgasm techniques like KSMO, erotic hypnosis, amygdala clicking and basically everything that Barabara learned and shared.
Is there a way to increase prostate sensitivity?
For me, the answer to that question were kegels and learning to differentiate the various pelvic muscles.
Cheers Unfug
Hey @DarkEngine
That's odd indeed. Did you actually felt nothing with your prostate? Even no pressure? No awkward stretch-feeling of tissue? Do you feel your prostate when you ejaculate? Like at the PONR and shortly after, when alle the fluids are moving inside you just before the first spasm occur. Feeling with fingers is tricky, because your fingers are very sensitive. When you have two sensory inputs at once, the stronger may overule the weaker. That's why scratching a mosquito bite alleviates the itch. The pain from scratching overrules the sensations from itching.
Yeah, I don't really feel anything — even when ejaculating. More or less all the sensation is in the penis during that time. I also tried cumming a few times with a toy inside, and don't really feel anything there either.
Might be right about fingers taking away sensation, though I haven't really felt any different with a manual toy.
Hey @DarkEngine ,
Might be right about fingers taking away sensation, though I haven't really felt any different with a manual toy.
If you can't feel anything with a toy either, it's not the fingers. That absolute-no-sensations-thing going on here sounds very strange to me. It's like you just said that you can't feel your arm when it's touched.
As said earlier, kegels did the trick for me - you may give it a shot. Even if you won't wake up the prostate-nerves, you will at least wake up the nerves that innervate the pelvic muscles.
What a great post! As an initiate, it's so cool to hear questions and recalibrations from an advanced user. Reinforces that there's always new places for us to go.
You said you've had amazing orgasms. From new guy to vet, I'd say don't label or categorize them. Our man parts are all different, and I'd posit that you're better wired to receive pleasure anally than many others. To quote Napoleon Dynamite, lucky!
Re. the numb or unresponsive prostate, I have a little something for you to try, if you're stout of heart--new post about to hit the board.
Best of Pleasures.
Z
Hey @DarkEngine ,
If you can't feel anything with a toy either, it's not the fingers. That absolute-no-sensations-thing going on here sounds very strange to me. It's like you just said that you can't feel your arm when it's touched.
I don't think it's that odd. The prostate isn't an erogenous area by nature, afaik, so some guys can cum from anal sex and other's can't for instance.
Saying that, though, you made me realise that thinking more in hindsight it is odd that the BC muscles aren't active these days. I recall years ago, like 2012 to 2014, even sitting on the bus when the engine causes the whole chairs to vibrate, it could stir some good vibes down there. The BC muscles (and prostate as a result?) would often be quite integrated.
Now it's just… anal, abdomen and dick pretty much. Not sure what happened, I'm 29 years old, and kegal as much now as I did then.
Hey @DarkEngine ,
The prostate isn't an erogenous area by nature, afaik,
So is your arm. Still you can feel something when touching it. What puzzles me is not the "I don't feel something arousing", but the "I don't feel anything at all".
so some guys can cum from anal sex and other's can't for instance.
As said earlier - it's my firm believe, that the only difference here is learning. I bet you didn't orgasm the very first time you consciously touched your dick. I bet there was some time between "Huh, that feels nice" and "Let's try what happens if I keep going" and "Woah, what is this feeling, that was intense...". Spending that time was necessary for your body, brain and nervous system to make new connections, thus to learn.
you made me realise that thinking more in hindsight it is odd that the BC muscles aren't active these days.
Now it's just… anal, abdomen and dick pretty much. Not sure what happened
My wild guess is, that you intuitively stuck with what worked best for you. Like "normal" men do with their penis. When I studied the forum for clues some years ago, I read some posts, where the members were discouraged with the aneros but that the Peridise worked perfectly fine for them. So they stuck with it and became multiorgasmic men, just not via the prostate.
and kegal as much now as I did then.
Technically that could mean that you did no kegels back then and never changed that. 😉
Do you use the do-nothing-approach normally or do you engage your muscles during a session? Maybe you try to focus solely on the BC, keep the anus relaxed and see what happens?
So is your arm. Still you can feel something when touching it. What puzzles me is not the "I don't feel something arousing", but the "I don't feel anything at all".
To some extent, you're right — I can feel something of the prostate, but I do have to be pressing hard by which point isn't necessarily healthy.
Then again, something I've been experimenting more is keeping the thumb/finger up there and specifically wiggling the tip — if good sensations start to occur, it likely can't be anal orgasms because the hole and canal aren't receiving much (if any) stimulation from entire hand movements.
As said earlier - it's my firm believe, that the only difference here is learning. I bet you didn't orgasm the very first time you consciously touched your dick. I bet there was some time between "Huh, that feels nice" and "Let's try what happens if I keep going" and "Woah, what is this feeling, that was intense...". Spending that time was necessary for your body, brain and nervous system to make new connections, thus to learn.
The comparison isn't quite apt because the dick, by it's very nature, is suppose to be highly erogenous — given it also expands and grows in response to arousal. It's hardwired to the prostate gland and sends signals directly.
My wild guess is, that you intuitively stuck with what worked best for you. Like "normal" men do with their penis. When I studied the forum for clues some years ago, I read some posts, where the members were discouraged with the aneros but that the Peridise worked perfectly fine for them. So they stuck with it and became multiorgasmic men, just not via the prostate.
Yeah, maybe. Thinking on it, though, the Aneros itself doesn't typically make long strokes, and it applies constant pressure on the prostate. Doubly so when my ass was going through fissure hell and I'd have to bear with insertion pains until pleasure started to form. If the prostate really wasn't sensitive, I wouldn't feel some initial arousal once the Aneros slid itself in.
Technically that could mean that you did no kegels back then and never changed that. 😉
Do you use the do-nothing-approach normally or do you engage your muscles during a session? Maybe you try to focus solely on the BC, keep the anus relaxed and see what happens?
Good idea.