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03/23/2023 3:27 pm
I've had a few "mini" discussions with members in threads about porn and Aneros. I think some of us came to the conclusion that the best sessions seem to happen when porn is not involved. So.. Since I was looking to take a massive break anyways (due to desensitization), I decided to give it a try.
The results have actually been good. I am not experiencing any Super Os, and I think I would be gaining more (if not for some external factors), but it has lead to some new sensations consistently. I am now at 118 days without porn.
I never said I would give it up for life. And I won't lie.. I have been tempted to watch a bit the last few days or so. I just don't want it to derail the rewiring at all, or bring me back to where I was (which was not addiction levels but still heavy use).
When is it a good idea to reintroduce porn? Any more effective ways to do so? Or maybe.. Is it just a bad idea overall?
Most times I really don't miss it.
03/23/2023 4:38 pm
Your story is a carbon copy of mine; too much porn and all the negative results that comes with it. I've been off porn for a few months and I like the positive results on me includingmy ED condition.
Being an addict of porn, I can't promise I'll never succumb to the constant temptation but I really want to stay away from it forever if I can. It was hard for me to quit and I don't want to go down that path again.
Good luck with your decision.
03/24/2023 5:32 pm
Cutting out masturbation is more important I think.
Soon as I can go 2+ days without it, then I can get Aless anytime with 1 small contraction.
The first 2 days are hard to get thru if you masturbate alot, but once you are on day 3+ you actually dont want to even masturbate.
Tbob reacted
03/25/2023 6:17 am
totally agree - once you are able to go without masturbating, your focus definitely changes and prostate and perenium play become more intense! Aless is much easier and more pleasurable as well!
03/25/2023 7:56 am
Cutting out masturbation is more important I think.
You probably mean ejaculation? I found that edging without ejaculation dosen't affect my Aless sessions.
In fact, my full Aneros sessions are very pleasurable even after ejaculation,. Everyone's different.
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03/28/2023 3:32 pm
Your story is a carbon copy of mine; too much porn and all the negative results that comes with it. I've been off porn for a few months and I like the positive results on me includingmy ED condition.
I wouldn't say I was addicted, but the amount I have watched over the years, combined with lack of personal intimacy, I think made me develop an ED situation of my own. I'm not sure if that has corrected itself by this point, but I can only imagine it has done something, if by chance I am seeing results within the Aneros journey.
For me porn is just an appetizer to kick things off! Once aroused I’m on my own and enjoying all the pleasure without it!
This is exactly how I was doing it. But session after session, watching the same clips, really only forced me to search out more material I didn't need.
Cutting out masturbation is more important I think.
While you might be right, I fear not having masturbation will cause me to not be able to get aroused unless an Aneros session is involved. I'd hate to almost rewire myself that way.
Ghusa reacted
03/28/2023 9:31 pm
I would say don't go back to porn but that's me. But if you're noticing the benefits of life without it, do you really want to go back and risk it sinking its hooks in again? There are two books I'd encourage you to read: Love Satisfies by Keepitup Johnson, which aligns very closely with the philosophy presented by Aneros and other MMO practices, and Crash by J.G. Ballard.
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04/04/2023 12:20 pm
I still haven't gone back... The benefits for sessions have been too much. While I'd love to start watching again, I don't see it giving me anything I don't already have. This is also to note... As creative of an individual as I am, I suck at visualizations during sessions. I'm more so of a "do nothinger" until the moment seems right to do some contractions.
Nothing crazy yet. I am getting better at focusing on focusing on sensations than when I was younger and using the devices.
04/06/2023 10:18 am
Don't go back, it ruined me and now just a little over 2 years of not using it, I feel so good about myself. My EQ is insane now and my sessions are much more erotic than ever. My prostate really, really loves that I'm not watching it! I've actually never watched porn while using Aneros or doing a prostate session since 2013, I used to and it was detrimental to my wiring. I have slipped back the last few months for a particular fetish of mine involving the female clitoris, preferably those on the huge side, but I'm not watching sex in porn, or on webcams or pornhub or major sites since March 2021. Every now and then I'll look at or for something for a few minutes. But all my sessions and when I pleasure myself are done with 0 porno, not even pictures.
Since you've been good for so long now, just don't go back! If you do, just do it out of interest, not for the same old reasons. Transforming porn into something else with a different purpose and outcome makes it seem like its "not porn" to me, and while that can sound pretty bad and delusional, my use has plummeted and it doesn't make me feel anywhere near what I used to feel like, or how I felt while watching it with my cock in my hand. I'd say stay off for at least another few months, and never watch it during sessions!
04/06/2023 3:39 pm
In my opinion, porn has its place to keep the blood flowing. 😀 but i think doing it with Aneros sessions is too distracting. It needs to be in moderation as with all things in life. Also I prefer to reading erotic stories and watching still images as these help me in my fantasies. I also prefer visiting offshoot of porn sites where you can take part in the action rather than watching porn stars do unrealistic scenes and making noises. Just my 2cents.
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04/06/2023 4:04 pm
just don't go back! If you do, just do it out of interest, not for the same old reasons. Transforming porn into something else with a different purpose and outcome makes it seem like its "not porn" to me
This is where my problem came in. I wasn't addicted to porn. However, I've had such a hard time in my life finding a partner (and am not much for random sexual encounters), that I have had to rely on porn to get me through. This created so many disadvantage over time. I didn't notice them until I randomly quit one day.
never watch it during sessions!
I've actually rarely done that. I'm more of a before session guy.
watching still images as these help me in my fantasies.
I have found this to be a lot more helpful than porn as well. Not that I am currently using them either...
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05/20/2023 12:17 pm
An update of sorts.
I am now 176 days without porn. I have thought of going back a few times. I'm just a bit afraid of if it will reset me back to where I was when I first started watching porn, or if after close to 6 months, the desensitization is still present.
I believe since quitting porn, I've experienced more erections during sessions, stronger orgasms, and most of my ED troubles are gone.
05/20/2023 12:55 pm
I never said I would give it up for life. And I won't lie.. I have been tempted to watch a bit the last few days or so. I just don't want it to derail the rewiring at all, or bring me back to where I was (which was not addiction levels but still heavy use).
This exactly what an addict would say. Leaving a way back to porn,denial of addiction. Since it was killing your sessions ,o’s and dysfunctions,it absolutely was a problem.
You’ve said you have more erections,more o’s and less ED since you quit. Why would you want to reintroduce it? Addiction. It’s no different from gamblers,alcoholics and drug addicts,you can’t go back because your body can’t handle it.
You don’t need it. Keep it binned.Sometimes we plateau and think some porn might give us a boost because we’re impatient. This is a booby trap and it’ll erode all the progress you’ve made.
Kn11 reacted
05/20/2023 1:26 pm
Agreed, it will feel great for a short while and you'll think it's not a big deal and that you can do it in moderation and keep it fun, and that since you stopped for months and it was "not that hard" (you never remember the first few days after quitting and how much things sucked...), that you'll just stop again if it becomes an issue.
It's just a question of how many times you need to start and stop again until you finally figure out that it's an actual issue. I do this all the time with THC-Os and my main "progress" there is that I manage to stop earlier each time, this still messes up with sober progress every single time...
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05/20/2023 3:03 pm
For me porn is just an appetizer to kick things off! Once aroused I’m on my own and enjoying all the pleasure without it! It only serves to peak the curiosity and imagination, nothing more!
I'm just starting my journey but I would agree with the "appetizer" idea. My first session had no porn, some smaller sessions in between did and it was OK and then my second long session this morning, I watched for about 20 minutes to get amped up and then went for the aneros (no porn with aneros) and it helped.
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05/20/2023 7:17 pm
This exactly what an addict would say. Leaving a way back to porn,denial of addiction. Since it was killing your sessions ,o’s and dysfunctions,it absolutely was a problem.
You’ve said you have more erections,more o’s and less ED since you quit. Why would you want to reintroduce it? Addiction. It’s no different from gamblers,alcoholics and drug addicts,you can’t go back because your body can’t handle it.
That is such a general assumption.
Addiction would mean it was creeping into other aspects of my life. Addiction would mean I was spending hours a day watching. Addiction would mean desensitization would cause me to seek out more extreme content. None of that is true.
While I became a collector of sorts, I only watched for a few minutes at the start of sessions. It wasn't a "must" for me in other aspects of my life.
Addicts can't stop. For me, porn had a rightful place. What I think was/is the killer is I didn't have the ability to switch back and fourth between porn and actual intimacy.
(you never remember the first few days after quitting and how much things sucked...)
It wasn't hard at all. One day I just decided to put it aside and haven't looked back. The whole thing really isn't a big deal. I just don't fully understand the brain rewiring, and how long it takes to "fully" reset. I've read things about habits taking 66 days to form or desolve, but I also know that a habit of doing something for years doesn't automatically correct itself in months.
It's just a question of how many times you need to start and stop again until you finally figure out that it's an actual issue.
I did not experience this. I told myself "no" and that was it.
05/30/2023 6:18 am
I've been off porn since March 2021. It is an addiction regardless of how you want to classify what "addiction" is. People who over classify addiction don't want to admit their addictions. Sometimes I look at a few things like photos or maybe solo women touching themselves, but this is seldom and not even weekly, sometimes just a check once or twice a month. I don't jerk off to content and I never cum to it, ever. I quit porn due to ED it gave me. Not a red herring, it made me have ED. I realized I had ED in certain sexual situations with my wife for about 20 years, like its time for anal she wants anal sex and I'd get soft. I want it! Not happening. The slow progression to dick failure was from years of casual porn use then it became heavy use for about a year in 2020 into 2021. It took about 30 or so days for me to get hard alone with no content on and last more than a minute when I solo played. But everything came back and my penis is better now than ever before and my sexual response is like when I was 16.
I used to use porn for about 10 years trying to have hands free prostate orgasms, but I never got there. I treated prostate play like normal solo play sessions: I used porn when alone, so porn is on when doing prostate play. One night playing with my wife I had my first recognizable P-spot O hands free, and after that I never watched porn again while riding or doing prostate anything. Os came fast and instantly, 50+ Os per session without trying anymore. I haven't used any content at all during prostate sessions since Spring 2014. I use mindfulness techniques during sessions and breathing and I get horny for myself and my abilities and that fuels me. Since that first hands-free O I never ever use porn or content for Aneros/prostate sessions.
I can tell myself "no" for a lot of things, too. When I smoke weed I feel it hit my body and lungs, my drymouth comes, lucid feelings and drunk legs, and I feel great. I quit weed cold turkey for 5 years a long time ago. Then I just picked it back up like I hadn't quit. So easy to start again, but when we smoke weed we really feel it, especially after long breaks. Porn has no "damn this hurts I shouldn't do it but it feels good when I'm done" feeling when it hits you, no burning throat, no drunk stupor, no altered brain state that makes you go for Cheetos uncontrollably. That's why porn is the greatest "hook" addiction ever: its natural (sex), it doesn't hurt (sexual stimulation on our genitals while watching it and seeing stimulation on genitals on the screen/page IT ALL FEELS GOOD), it really gets our brain going, the outcome from use is amazing and wonderful and nothing feels better than an orgasm. I'm not saying OP is an addict. I'm saying that porn is addictive. And the back and forth over quitting/starting back, start/stop, to watch/not to watch debates between us and within the user's head shows addictive traits between porn and society. Porn is socially acceptable but culturally damaging.
This post was modified 1 year ago by techpump
05/30/2023 7:09 am
@techpump I can relate to every single word you wrote about porn and it's addiction characteristics. I'm living the same experience you are minus the weed part. I've managed to stay away from weed even since it's been legalized in my part of the world.
Unfortunately, my ED reversal has not fully materialized as I wished but I suspect it's more of a psychological issue than a phisical one for me. Returning to porn is not an option if I can help it; after all, it is an addiction for me.
05/30/2023 5:59 pm
Cutting out porn is great.
People have feelings about masturbation. I found a good middle ground was too only masturbate using a fleshlight / onahole.... takes time to setup / clean up. So you don't do it too often. Feels better and no death grip.
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05/31/2023 1:53 pm
It is an addiction regardless of how you want to classify what "addiction" is. People who over classify addiction don't want to admit their addictions.
Addiction is typically classified as not being able to have control over your desires, or attempting to gain control unsuccessfully.
I think in the end, those of us trying to determine exactly what addiction is, are doing so because of how blurred the lines are. The medical field only really looks at addiction from a drugs and alcohol standpoint. And with all the research coming out in the last ten years or so, in regards to rewiring your brain, it is often wondered how much addiction really exists, if we have this much control over our minds.
my sexual response is like when I was 16.
I read comments on here like this all the time. I always ask - what else is involved? Surely, it was more than just quitting porn that got your levels back to teenage status.
Porn has no "damn this hurts I shouldn't do it but it feels good when I'm done" feeling when it hits you, no burning throat, no drunk stupor, no altered brain state that makes you go for Cheetos uncontrollably. That's why porn is the greatest "hook" addiction ever
There are two sides to this...
First, "hurt" within addiction can mean many different things. Porn can hurt you - hurt your sex drive, hurt relationships with family and friends, etc. With any sort of addiction that isn't addressed, there is a rock bottom. What the rock bottom is changes based on the individuals and how much they can tolerate.
The other side makes me feel as the lack of physical hurt is what makes this potential addiction easier to kick. I can't speak for anyone else, but I just one day said "no" and quit. There are no withdrawal symptoms, no physical cravings, and so on.
Porn is socially acceptable but culturally damaging.
So true...
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